Do addicts still get high?

[cyberius]

Do people that use methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin still get a euphoric high? Or do they just get some sort of ultimate relief?

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Both.

Addicts must use ever escalating doses to achieve the high, but less so for relief...

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Yea they can, but the high is diminished greatly.
When I was addicted to ketamine I would get high, but it was nothing compared to if I took a couple week break (but who does that when they're addicted)

 

[cbean]

Yes, when I was using heroin I was still able to get high (and get a rush)- but it is true that you need to use larger amounts of the drug. The people I used with and I were always really cautious though. For example- if we were using x amount of bags of heroin per shot (because that is what it usually would take us to get high), if we got new dope we would have the person with the highest tolerance try a small amount first (to see if it was extraordinarily stronger than it usually was). That was a way we'd try to prevent ODing.

Also, even straying away from the addict's drug of choice for as little as a week can (slightly) bring down one's tolerance.

 

[JT_5]

As an addict the answer is yes. Like posts above the high is diminished, that comes with tolerance.

Eventually however i know this especially for alcohol, i know quite a few sober drunks that in the end of their drinking days could no longer get drunk.

 

[RTrain]

Honestly I don't think the quality of the high decreases very much, but of course you continue to need more and more to reach the desired point. The whole trying to achieve the same feeling as the first time you got high is some B.S., the 2nd 3d 4th and so on are just the same. But tolerance builds quick and you'll need more before long. Also the duration seems to be much shorter once you build a dependence to it. What users describe as an afterglow when they have a mild buzz following the full on high, that is replaced by just craving for more and anxiety b/c you know without more you'll be sick.

edit: I am referring to opiates, mainly oycodone and heroin.

 

[dopemegently]

My personal "rock bottom" came when no matter what I used I didn't get high. It was so fucking depressing; I was using a lot of h at the time and it stopped my dopesick, but all the guilt and bad shit was there-a low point.

Even during this time, when I was in peak withdrawal and slammed some, the relief was beautiful.that sense of relief was what kept me going when I should have stopped. Thanks to tolerance, I'd consider a full time opiate "career" completely unsustainable. Imo tolerance is evil; taking you're regular shot, only to find out you're in mild WD is bad shit.

I wonder if it's scientifically possible to provide a non-opiate drug that can totally eliminate withdrawal symptoms?

Edit: I've heard good things about britlofex, or clonidine in the US, it eliminates excess noradrenaline, that horrible sense of energy and restlessness. I've also heard negative side effects such as extreme lethargy, however; this is no magic bullet. Also I hear loperamide can reduce symptoms, although the jurys out on that one, and I cant say I understand how it works for WD, considering it targets the gut? (none the less I have 800 of the things. You never know...I wish there was a pill that can eliminate 100% of heroin WD; all we can do is dream...

 

[laugh]

i bet they are working on it. probably wouldnt be very good for recurring business though.

 

[bennyZA]

I still get "high" just as much, but just as much is not enough. Tolerance is a weird bitch