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DMT Users: Notice any long term side effects to heavy DMT use?

Anon610

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As anyone noticed any long term side effects from heavy DMT use? I'm talking about a gram every 2-3 days.
I used to do it heavily and honestly don't notice a difference besides my change in the way I perceive things.

Anyone notice any negative side effects from heavy DMT user?
 
Holy shit, a gram every few days? I guess you're living proof that psychedelics don't trigger psychotic episodes
 
Given the incredibly short duration and seeming lack of any permanent physical side-effects from regular DMT usage, I think the only after effects would be mental ones from your various journeys.

Regular usage of any psychedelic can become mentally wearing; like riding the same roller-coaster over and over. This is well documented. I don't think there is any evidence that regular psychedelic use actually leads to developing mental instability - it just reveals any mental issues already present.

Another concern may be DMT's very high affinity for 5HT2B receptors; chronic activation of these receptors can cause heart valve growth problems. (c.f. fenfluramine) This is an issue in heavy e.g. MDMA users; it would also be a theoretical concern with heavy regular usage of serotonin-agonist psychedelics. Given DMT's short half life I am unsure if chronic activation is even a concern though...

If you can pass a physical examination, have a good reasoning ability, and don't have e.g heart valve murmurs, you're probably none the worse for wear.
 
Holy shit, a gram every few days? I guess you're living proof that psychedelics don't trigger psychotic episodes

Yeah man. We'd hit the DMT pipe every 25 minutes. (Allowed our tolerance to reset) and we were breaking through like 20 times a day last Summer. I've always had anxiety and acute depression but DMT has only left an impact on the way I think.
I can say its a beautiful thing. Probably the best psychedelic, ever. The lack of negative side effects appeals to me a lot. And it was my second psychedelic.

Given the incredibly short duration and seeming lack of any permanent physical side-effects from regular DMT usage, I think the only after effects would be mental ones from your various journeys.

Regular usage of any psychedelic can become mentally wearing; like riding the same roller-coaster over and over. This is well documented. I don't think there is any evidence that regular psychedelic use actually leads to developing mental instability - it just reveals any mental issues already present.

Another concern may be DMT's very high affinity for 5HT2B receptors; chronic activation of these receptors can cause heart valve growth problems. (c.f. fenfluramine) This is an issue in heavy e.g. MDMA users; it would also be a theoretical concern with heavy regular usage of serotonin-agonist psychedelics. Given DMT's short half life I am unsure if chronic activation is even a concern though...

If you can pass a physical examination, have a good reasoning ability, and don't have e.g heart valve murmurs, you're probably none the worse for wear.

It was exhausting without a doubt. I've always had a heart murmur since I was about 15. When I was playing soccer. But no adverse health effects I can notice that's directly attributed to DMT.

Long term: more happiness, knowledge...oh and awareness of how people are kidnapped by aliens.

Spot on man. Its weird how a lot of people see aliens on DMT. I've seen my fair share of aliens and robots.
Its kinda hard not to do DMT when its in your hands. I would do it when I first wake up and before I went to sleep. Best way to use DMT.
 
I've not ever used dmt very frequently, but of those I know who have, a couple got really weird. Granted they were a bit strange to begin with... kind of a chicken & egg problem, ha.
 
I've not ever used dmt very frequently, but of those I know who have, a couple got really weird. Granted they were a bit strange to begin with... kind of a chicken & egg problem, ha.
Darn....looks.....like I am one of em'!;) Who knows I smoked 20 grams of DMT in the compacted amounts of a few years through various means.... and i'm......;)
 
Darn....looks.....like I am one of em'!;) Who knows I smoked 20 grams of DMT in the compacted amounts of a few years through various means.... and i'm......;)

Ever smoked heroic doses and just black out? Reminds me a lot of a dream.
 
Long term: more happiness, knowledge...oh and awareness of how people are kidnapped by aliens.

as far as the aliens go - while I do believe DMT has very valid spiritual and mental effects - i think it also is based on your enviornment during the trip. I really feel like all the alien kidnappings and experiances reporting in the spirit molecule book come from DMT being tested via IV in a clinical setting. Imagine waking up on a dmt breakthru in the hospital, with medical equiptment all around, and doctors, etc...
 
I know it has 'valid' spiritual effects too...it is in so many a magic plant. As far as enviornment...the 'entity' experience (or aliens as some would say) seems to be a consistent feature of DMT. The thing is, I never read spirit molecule to long after DMT. I got into DMT in early 2001...long before there was the online psychedelic culture and 1001 trip reports.

I've used DMT in ever imaginable setting....I've used it camping in the mountains as a visionary aid, and I have used it to leave my body during opiate withdrawal...so I do know the molecule well. The 'travelers' or 'those who bring knowledge' aka 'elves' are always there.

as far as the aliens go - while I do believe DMT has very valid spiritual and mental effects - i think it also is based on your enviornment during the trip. I really feel like all the alien kidnappings and experiances reporting in the spirit molecule book come from DMT being tested via IV in a clinical setting. Imagine waking up on a dmt breakthru in the hospital, with medical equiptment all around, and doctors, etc...
 
Ever smoked heroic doses and just black out? Reminds me a lot of a dream.
Indeed, the one time I foolishly and lastly ever poured a dose from dram vial containing multiple grams of dimitri was pretty much my last....I pretty much in my mind vaped nearly 120mgs of beautiful quality DMT crystals, whilst on some ferociously good LSD, then dedicated because of the "Pre trip" tolerance that happens especially when ones ingests a lot of DMT variously that I could just happy go lucky vape more. Long story short I poured at least a quarter gram of DMT into the bowl. I vaped it well, again :p, though this time in enitrity and it just suddenly hit me as reality was put bit by bit back into, it's now repixelized neon replica of the earlier one, save the waving walls, or more appropriately borders. I convinced myself upon seeing this new reality that I had been born freshly, which was comically mirrored in the way it seemed like my cat turned back into a kitten, like he had regressed back with me as well. I also spent probably ten or so minutes lost in a mirror as well, watching myself growing older, then shedding "myself", once again. Only spent a few mirror duels, but damn if they weren't some of the worst most chaotic, damning, repeating of any psychedelic concept I had ever seen. A mirror duel is what I call a breakthrough dose where you've clearly broken through but normal reality holds little regards, ex) in mirror duels I would often see myself repeatedly aged, deceased, reborn, aged, that one was just tiring as I just felt the want to shed some skin, the serious battles......namely occurred after my normally insane self would sanely dose multiple doses of various psyches or diss's then redose/smoke noids to my hearts content. They were then a battle of some stranger who stands before me in a mirror and "I" who I see but don't recognize, has one of several turbulent scenarios fulfilled, like my teeth simply melting away washing off my face like color paint, only to root around my mouth to find the confirmatory that it to had conformed and now was "toothless".

Years of DMT tokin.....? Still tokin? Whenever I can get a chock...any real fool would know that:P I really only vape DMT rarely now a days, been a bit of distance since my last launch. I think though, that any true DMT pychonaut knows, theres never an end anyways, so whats the wait inbetween a few tokes of divine peace? ;) Only ever communicated with "one" "being" once while tripping highly, though later this was founded to be my own spirit on its mission to show me something. Besides thats....no connects! I think my linxors are broken.....what must I do to commune with these beings?!? My laylines are always open but.....only entered THAT VOID once. Nothing since, nothing like before. Maybe that just was my ++++ with 5-MeO-DMT......but I expected a bit more and was rousted with the void's shivering chill. DMT is like a brilliant white light whereas 5-MeO felt like regressing, back to early forms, heavier, more laden, but knowledgeable. DPT was like the middle ground and this is where I like to run around most times now, though I won't deny a taste of MET or DET FB/HCl would be quite a treat, I feel I can grasp what they might just be, 4-H0-DPT is the next to try. I have a feeling it will be an even better middle ground than DPT...

P.S. There never was a transformation........I come outta da womb covered in crystals/amethysts for the real world protection one needs in this land of today. 8(
 
Only ever communicated with "one" "being" once while tripping highly, though later this was founded to be my own spirit on its mission to show me something. Besides thats....no connects! I think my linxors are broken.....what must I do to commune with these beings?!?

FWIW, there seems to be some subset of the population that doesn't ever get 'entity contact' or other structured immersive hallucinations... even on e.g Salvia or DMT. Maybe it's something personality-linked. If you don't see the elves, well, you don't see the elves.

Anecdotally, chances of experiencing something awesome are much higher if you don't expect anything., just be mindful and perceptive.
 
FWIW, there seems to be some subset of the population that doesn't ever get 'entity contact' or other structured immersive hallucinations... even on e.g Salvia or DMT. Maybe it's something personality-linked. If you don't see the elves, well, you don't see the elves.

Anecdotally, chances of experiencing something awesome are much higher if you don't expect anything., just be mindful and perceptive.
Truth there does lie! Though I thought it clear, I was jesting, I never intended to do anything other than....well......play a muse. While I don't diffract from the point, either way i'm the sort o' believein'.....(all the "spiriits:;)
 
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