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DMT - Semi Experienced - Getting on the train with Dimitri

Baker

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Ok, I tried the best to retrace my 2 pages of handwritten notes into proper chronology after a day has passed. But I’ll firstly start off with what I know I can be certain of, my set and setting.

I was feeling quite content and relaxed it was about 1am, and for the first time in the past week and a half I was not feeling the lingering effects of the cold I had just had anymore. I took some advice that a friendly Bluelighter, Samadhi Smiles had given me that melatonin that kicks in late at night and that it can be particularly useful for making the trip easier to handle so I got my pipe and vial of DMT out and weighed out what I believe to be approximately 35-45mg using my 0.01g scales which can be a little inaccurate when they only read 0.04g.

So I sat on my bed against the wall trying to calm myself of my now sped up heart rate, practicing some breathing techniques until it felt right back down and the excitation caused by contemplating what I was about to do was the same as preparing to eat a piece of cake, I was excited but no longer anxious. I sat up on my bed as I held the lighter under my pipe and waited for the smoke to form inhaling slowly like I would through a straw. I got a nice big hit and there was a desire to exhale, but it was quite surprisingly easy to suppress. I eventually exhaled and instantly felt quite lightheaded and was about to lay down when I decided I wanted more and hit it again. This second hit produced a much higher amount of smoke (perhaps due to the fact the pipe was already heated this time) I inhaled deeply again and it felt increasingly more difficult to hold in this time, but as I sat there trying to hold it in I saw more smoke building inside the chamber, so I exhaled a little from my lungs again after about 10-20 seconds and inhaled as much of the fresh smoke as possible. I quickly put the pipe down and laid down on my pillow and then slowly exhaled.

There was a brief moment where I thought, am I breathing properly as I closed my eyes. Then I started to hear this really nice crackling noise, like when you get a synthesizer and take it to its lowest frequency where the wave forms are so far apart that the resonance creates this awesome ascending crackle that rises through a compression of its monotone. HAHA should probably just use the textbook analogy (like crackling cellophane… though I don’t like crackling cellophane and this was far more pleasurable so I’ll stick with my first analogy). There were these intense Symmetrical patterns forming in front of me in a very fluid pattern they were flowing up and down and into each other, then I heard a pop and everything turned 3D.

It was as though my hallucination had evolved and I was in this dome like thing with these eyes all around the outside (they didn’t look like eyes, but they felt like eyes.. I have no idea what they were actually). But there was this little object in the middle that looked like a praying mantis leg I suppose but slightly metallic, and on both ends of these legs were these eyeballs that were looking down on me and sending me a remarkable sensation of complete peace and euphoria. This leg (which was more like an in its presence) was rotating around in unpredictable interesting angles, like it was in the middle of this huge dome/ball that I was looking inside and the ball or gyrus of my brain and was rolling all weird and interesting directions. I had this sensation and imagery of something to similar to clockworks or seeing those little cogs turn together inside a giant machine that together make everything work.

It felt like I was behind the scenes of my brain and there were these little stick insects or whatever you want to call it, revolving in geometrical patterns that made everything in my constant state of perception experience flow. It was as though all the aspects that made me human, I was experiencing for their true presence, in this intensely complex geometrical languages that presented the emotions for desires like hunger, sex, emotion, satisfaction and sleep. My slight impulses could be categorized down into infinite little beings of consciousness that inspire all my motivations that they do with the slightest shift of a gear stick, so to speak.

Then after that I started to feel the hallucinations deteriorating a bit as I started to feel that my whole body had been writhing in ecstasy, much like one would kick and flail about during a nightmare, but there was so much intense euphoria that it could not possibly been a result of a nightmare. As I faded back into reality it was as though I realized that it was this rotating stick that was guiding my whole body telling it to move, it was the one controlling my existence the deterministic presence of the moment. I was living as close to the moment as possible I realized. As during this time I had forgotten who I was, I had forgotten I was alive and I had definitely forgotten I had taken a drug. But it was so peaceful and euphoric, that when I returned and realized what euphoria actually meant I was ecstatic like my body was just exuding this intense colourful euphoria flowing out from every direction. I looked around my room and there were these intense colourful geometric patterns covering my walls, my carpet, everything. Colours were so extremely vibrant and it was as though they were flowing into each other like liquid, while maintaining this crisp colourful clarity at the same time (hard to explain). I guess a colourful watercolour painting does it only a slight bit of justice it deserves in describing the beauty of it all.

After that I quickly tried to scribble down as many notes as possible, which I later compiled into this trip report and was trying to see if anyone was still awake by my phone, so I could relay this profound experience to someone. I don’t know if this is what a breakthrough is meant to sound like, or if it even was one, but it was quite intense and there wasn’t an element of fear at all in it all, however I will say this. It was like I was a tube of paint and I was squeezed really tightly, and this huge rainbow of intense euphoria flowed out of my soul and into it all at once. Swirls of the rainbow were pushed while simultaneously being sucked in.
Perhaps the rolling ball was my ego, rolling through my brain a tiny cell that made up my perceptual experience. I’ve had previous DMT experiences that have been mixed with pot where I ventured into my brain before and it felt like I was looking at a little puppet master holding these strings to may state of mind like desires as the ones I mentioned above. And if the puppet master were to cut one of these strings I would be affected by some mental disorder. It was by fluid control of these strings that made me, me. This puppet master, or the strings or the beings that control these strings were me. Like some metaphorical language, It is the train that travels through my brain.

Now I never saw “elves” or anything, so maybe I didn’t do enough. But what I did experience was very vague in retrospect, was hard to remember vividly. But I’ve been excited about life since, and also have this desire to hit it again, and probe deeper. Is DMT addictive? It feels profound, like a multitude of drugs I’ve tried all crammed into one and compressed into a dense and difficult to integrate 4 minutes. No real profound insights from this trip alone yet however, just a reconfirmation of previous conceptions. Hopefully this spreads light into those curious about DMT, or those who haven’t experienced the elves. Perhaps the eyes and stick insects I experienced were the elves. Who knows, I just wonder how much preconceptions can affect a trip that seems so radically beyond our control.

I guess I was expecting something more, something that would make me question my whole existence and my way of life and perhaps freak me out about my current approach or my drug use. But I think I'm pretty together right now anyway, practicing meditation, not using drugs as much, studying well, working a job that gives me great inspiration, indulging in a multitude of different art forms: producing music, writing, dancing and singing, while also experiencing the culture, spirituality and beauty of both society and the environment of this earth. My preconceptions have always believed DMT to be a shock to the system but as was suggested to me by Samadhi smiles, the fear for DMT is often misinterpreted and although it is profound, it feels like pure love instead... and that it does.. PURE ECSTASY.

Thanks for reading :)

Baker

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In case someone wants to publish it on Erowid: the details are
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Author:Baker
Title: Getting on the train with Dimitri

I subtracted references to Samadhi Smiles from the erowid version too.
 
baker! this was an amazing trip report! Thank you very much for sharing it with us. I literally got chills down my entire body reading it. Whew!!!

Some thoughts...first of all the term 'breakthrough' is just that, a term. I suspect it can be meaningfully applied to some DMT trips (like full ego loss and contact with entities would probably be a breakthrough trip) and not really acceptably applied to other trips (seeing some pretty colors, feel a body buzz, thats probably not a breakthrough).

HOWEVER, I think there will always be different breakthrough type trips. For instance, I have broken through before on DMT and not made contact with entities (although the vast majority of my breakthrough trips have been making contact with them).

It sounds to me as if you were right on the edge of a classic encounter with whatever entity was forming there (the mantis leg thing). Take a while to integrate the awe you have now for the experience and in a week or two try again if you feel ready (or wait longer!). Maybe try 60mg this next time?

It seems to be that you 'get' DMT in the same way that I do, that it puts us in touch with what is so important (LOVE and EUPHORIA). Your tube of paint metaphor is f'n brilliant also! I definitely understand that!

In short, I understand what you are saying here and it makes me very excited to think that there are others out there feeling these types of things! :)

blessings,
samadhi
 
One more note, its my personal belief now that the entities I contact (speaking for myself here) are parts of my own mind. I feel like DMT unlocks that which resides in the lotus blossom of my mind, allowing these entities to explore and interact with me.
 
Thanks for the comments. I will be trying it again sometime soon I think but with 1.5g of passion flower to act as an MAOI and lengthen the experience while increasing the dose to 50 or 60mg. And perhaps eventually using 100mg or so with 2-4g of syrian rue.

Oh yeah Xorkoth i've been getting distracted producing music, my psychedelic use kind of got put on hold for uni, work, relationship, art and music. Haha the sad thing was, I was still using drugs, but in a less spiritual evolutionary way. More socially as bonding experiences with friends and partner. A bit more difficult to write up when the experiences are so intimately personal.

I think I also might be giving drugs in general up soon, for who knows how long and getting into some solid meditating, healthy lifestyle and clear thinking. but i've still got a few phenethylamines at my disposal, and i've been meaning to have a proper 2c-t-2 trip for some time now.. haha
maybe a combination of DMT and 2c-t-2 as a trip to end all trips... for a while at least.
 
well, using psychedelics and drugs in general to bond with others has been OK so far in my life so long as I've used them moderately. The problem comes when use becomes excessive. But you sound as if you have a fairly good head on your shoulders, so I expect if your use does escalate then you will take a break like you mention.

In my experience with DMT + 2CT7 it is a WONDERFUL combination. Very powerful. You may want to check out Dondante's 2CT21 + DMT combination. It sounded wonderful also and I always love reading his TRs, they are so clear and descriptive, they have always spoke to me on a personal level how I experience these chemicals.
link: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=56829
 
I actually just smoked some DMT and looked at my computer, and this thread was up. :) I agree with the complete sense of peace and euphoria, way better than MDMA could ever give.
 
Wow, that trip report was written very well. I could almost feel what 2c-t-21 would feel like and the DMT trip was almost exactly how my trip felt. It's so nice to see trip reports that don't talk about elves, as when a trip like DMT can only be broken down into simple misinterpretable english, it sounds just as bad saying "Yeah man, DMT is really trippy."

How much 2c-t-7 did you have and how much DMT did you have. Is there a trip report anywhere Samadhi?

I smoked some 2c-t-2 once (I know it was probably stupid).. I mixed it with some cannabis and some kanna (sceletium). I was rocketed to what felt like the end of the universe before sitting there and feeling like I was a part of an intense beautiful trip. I eventually built up the courage to take a hit of 10x salvia.
And wow, I thought it was the most beautiful substance around. Salvia has always provided me with an intense euphoria (paralleled only now, by DMT)
But I was transported into another body. Like a curtain had seperated me from my current perception and I was now in a different one, living an alternate life as a young boy going to school in England on a rainy day wearing yellow gumboots and a bright smile on my face. When I came back there were these intense hallucinations like the alternate perceptions were licking my current world and I would see all the furniture in the room rapidly trying to find its places and sizes in my visual field with intense warping.

So I think if DMT on 2c-t-2 is anything like salvia on 2c-t-2
I should be up for a very interesting experience.
Salvia rocks my world,
I get Complete bliss and euphoria from salvia as well.. provided i'm not paranoid or anxious prior to smoking.

Good to hear Not_Broken_420 :)
 
^ Yeah, isn't Dondante a great trip report writer? He really does impart the feeling of the chemical to you.

My 2CT7 + DMT report, I did not write a trip report, but scattered some comments around about it. Basically, it was a very rough come-up (I plugged about 15mg) where I puked for a good half hour, while laughing my ass off with my roommate in our backyard. Then I spent the next 6 hours in a euphoric daze (delerium) every 30 minutes or so taking about 25mg of DMT. At one point I took 50mg of DMT and completely untethered from this world and felt like I was floating in a very deep ocean.

It was one of the more enjoyable drug sessions I've had, but the insight was lacking (its been that way for me with phenehethylamines almost consistently, besides 2CE). I've yet to try mescaline, but I will in the next month or so (500mg of pure synthetic mescaline!).

peace baker....for some strange reason I feel an affinity to you....I hope I don't come off weird saying to you love and hugs :)

samadhi
 
Baker, did you extract out the DMT yourself? And if so, what plant did you use? Not asking for a source, just curious. It seems like the vast majority of reports over DMT are from people who have extracted (or possibly synthesized- is that possible to do by oneself?) it by hand, and I'm thinking that's the route I'll go at some point. Just wondering how hard it is, or how much harder, comparitively, to extracting out anything else.
 
its easy and is a fun afternoon project.

the best day to do it is the day after taking MDMA. Its a fun thing to do stoned off your ass and displaced from the night before MDMA.

plus then you can smoke DMT and hit the reset button.
 
Is there a recommended plant that contains the highest amounts? It may be a bit hard to come across some of those lovely exotic jungle plants in Oklahoma. I've heard that Giant River Cane is a good bet..
 
Baker said:
Thanks for the comments. I will be trying it again sometime soon I think but with 1.5g of passion flower to act as an MAOI and lengthen the experience while increasing the dose to 50 or 60mg. And perhaps eventually using 100mg or so with 2-4g of syrian rue.

Oh yeah Xorkoth i've been getting distracted producing music, my psychedelic use kind of got put on hold for uni, work, relationship, art and music. Haha the sad thing was, I was still using drugs, but in a less spiritual evolutionary way. More socially as bonding experiences with friends and partner. A bit more difficult to write up when the experiences are so intimately personal.

I think I also might be giving drugs in general up soon, for who knows how long and getting into some solid meditating, healthy lifestyle and clear thinking. but i've still got a few phenethylamines at my disposal, and i've been meaning to have a proper 2c-t-2 trip for some time now.. haha
maybe a combination of DMT and 2c-t-2 as a trip to end all trips... for a while at least.

Oh my... sounds like me except you actually stayed away from Bluelight. It's my age-old struggle (actually it's about two years old =D). I have tripped once since the new year and it was a low-dose, semi-trip. I am trying to get back to using them for right reasons. I am also trying to spend less time thinking about and writing about drugs and more time advancing my career and other personal life stuff. I am thinking about smoking some DMT soon though. I was never able to break through with all the tolerance I had.

Good luck with that. :) There's nothing at all wrong with using psychedelics as recreational fun, except when it becomes abuse. Because abusing any drug is a bad thing, no matter how good it seems at the time. Unfortunately.
 
hey xorkoth and others, dont worry about breaking through at all. It is just a term we apply to something that really cannot be captured in words.

Just smoke as much DMT as you can get into your lungs as quickly as possible then lay back and experience whatever happens.
 
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