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Man, Zophen! I didn't realize you were talking about a near-death experience when you mentioned your scary trip! I'm glad you're okay!

Be careful... that would suck if you weren't here anymore 8o :(
 
Ismene said:
That's that theory out the window then! :)

Has oral DMT always gone ok in the past then? No nasty physical effects with an maoi and DMT on it's own?


I must be honest and admit that I've taken oral DMT after having taken MDMA for four days previously (although none on that day) but other stuff as well no hassle ! !! I know I know but zero ill effects !

*shrugs* lessons lessons!
 
fuckin shit man. that kinda thing makes you think the next time. i took about 20mgs of xanax and drank at a bar one night. i collapsed when i got home. went to the er. it was a scary experience. i know they say you cant really od on xanax, i still wonder if i owuld have lived if no one found me.
 
22.00 beer 3 pints (spitfire , nice)


Hadn't noticed this...is this a draft beer with a high tyramine content? 8o

Tyramine and MAOI's can knock you bandy!
 
A class of antidepressants called MAOIs (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) can increase the sensitivity to tyramine if taken orally. If sufficient quantities of tyramine are ingested, hypertensive crises may occur, potentially causing stroke or cardiac arrythmia.

All tap beer and ale should be avoided, as lack of hygiene and proper maintenance may allow tyramine-forming bacteria to grow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_containing_tyramine

Alcoholic beverages - avoid Chianti wine and vermouth. Consumption of red, white, and port wine in quantities less than 120 mL present little risk (Anon, 1989; Da Prada et al, 1988; McCabe, 1986). Beer and ale should also be avoided (McCabe, 1986), however other investigators feel major domestic (US) brands of beer is safe in small quantities (1/2 cup or less than 120 mL) (Anon, 1989; Da Prada, 1988), but imported beer should not be consumed unless a specific brand is known to be safe. Whiskey and liqueurs such as Drambuie(R) and Chartreuse(R) have caused reactions. Nonalcoholic beverages (alcohol- free beer and wines) may contain tyramine and should be avoided (Anon, 1989; Stockley, 1993).



http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/maoi.html
 
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Jeez Zophen! You of all people! Freaky read, and I am glad that you're ok.

Pretty heavy drug use that was, anyway. Resilient body you got there. Maybe you want to treat it a little better :)
 
I'm happy your okay and I hoped you learned somthing, sometimes the worst experiences are the most educational.

Your Official Diagnosis...

Too many drugs?!, I would have never thought.
 
Ismene said:
A class of antidepressants called MAOIs (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) can increase the sensitivity to tyramine if taken orally. If sufficient quantities of tyramine are ingested, hypertensive crises may occur, potentially causing stroke or cardiac arrythmia.

All tap beer and ale should be avoided, as lack of hygiene and proper maintenance may allow tyramine-forming bacteria to grow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_containing_tyramine

Alcoholic beverages - avoid Chianti wine and vermouth. Consumption of red, white, and port wine in quantities less than 120 mL present little risk (Anon, 1989; Da Prada et al, 1988; McCabe, 1986). Beer and ale should also be avoided (McCabe, 1986), however other investigators feel major domestic (US) brands of beer is safe in small quantities (1/2 cup or less than 120 mL) (Anon, 1989; Da Prada, 1988), but imported beer should not be consumed unless a specific brand is known to be safe. Whiskey and liqueurs such as Drambuie(R) and Chartreuse(R) have caused reactions. Nonalcoholic beverages (alcohol- free beer and wines) may contain tyramine and should be avoided (Anon, 1989; Stockley, 1993).



http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/maoi.html


Looks a likely candidate but am afraid to say have consumed more beer than that in conjunction with moclobemide and zero ill effects.
If you specifically look at moclobemide you will find that it tells you that you may not eat over 1000grams of cheese during the length of action of the drug!

Who eats a thousand grams of cheese in a few hours anyway 8( ?? I digress though!

BNF says ok to drink moderately (If I recollect rightly , which could be debatable . ) I shall see later.
Moclobemide considered one of the safest MAOi available .
 
damn.
that was a dangerous comgo. 6 g of ghb and diazepam alone is enough to kill someone.
plus the cocain and then an MAOI!


be careful man!
good to hear your ok,,,,as others have said
 
zophen said:
Who eats a thousand grams of cheese in a few hours anyway 8( ?? I digress though!

My rottweiler had a good go when I left some on the kitchen table once :)
 
zophen said:
If you specifically look at moclobemide you will find that it tells you that you may not eat over 1000grams of cheese during the length of action of the drug!

Who eats a thousand grams of cheese in a few hours anyway 8( ?? I digress though!
.

Sounds like a great night! 20 slices of cheese on toast! mmmm...
 
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