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DMT/Harmaline - Experienced - There Is Nothing You Are Everything

Church

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It has been quite a while since I've been around here at BL. I was apparently pissing people off, so I figured I needed to take a step back and evaluate myself. I guess I've been a little less 'reserved' since adjusting my cannabis intake. I'm still not used to not staying high all the time, but I'll get the hang of it...

This past Christmas Eve I decided to go camping with a friend. I just recently received an order of some Mimosa hostilis root bark and Syrian Rue seeds, which were magically transmuted into relatively pure DMT freebase and Harmaline citrate, respectively. My friend, A, and I just needed a 2 day break from our normal routine lives. My plan was to have an oral DMT experience, and my less-than-experienced friend opted for 3g of fungi instead.

After setting up camp, we grilled up some falafel and munched on couscous and smoked a joint of some freshly cured Bubblegum. All I can say is YUMMY... At approximately 7:45pm, I ate a gelcap filled with 150mg Harmaline citrate and 200mg DMT freebase and downed it with some Mint tea. I had never taken the DMT and the MAOI at the same time before, and I was interested in seeing how (if at all) the trip would be affected.

My friend just took the shrooms by themselves, and couldn't be persuaded into any harmaline.

At about 8:25 or so I was beginning to feel the DMT, which was odd because I didn't really feel the effects of the harmala too much! It definitely seemed as though the DMT was right on the heels of the harmaline, so to speak. (I now believe it is not necessary to take the MAOI an hour earlier as I previously was led to believe).

My friend was also starting to trip pretty hard from the shrooms, and I was picking up an anxious vibe from him. Suddenly, while looking across the fire at him, I saw in slow motion all of his insecurities and self-conscious thoughts, as if I were reading his mind. It was so clear to me! I don't normally experience psychedelic journeys as all that visual, but DMT seems to be an exception... I saw all of A's thoughts as kaleidoscopic geometrical figures pouring out of him and merging into 3D reality right around him! I saw how his thoughts were creating the reality he perceived, and I recognized the utter insanity of the fact that we ALL are creating our physical reality by our thoughts and yet we all seem to be living in the same perceived reality... how is it possible that I am creating this whole entire world, and yet I saw A doing the same exact thing and his reality and mine were ONE?

I soon was snapped out of this deep reverie when I noticed that the expression on A's face was one of deep awe and amazement. He then said to me, "How are you doing that?!... Wh-- How are you making that happen?!!... I never knew that was even POSSIBLE!!!!....."

Some distant part of myself was actually able to ask him what he meant by that, and he said that I was "making him think thoughts." I'm still not sure what that means exactly, but apparently he saw me as some powerful shaman like figure during that moment.

I lost track of time from this point on out, but shortly after all of this I recognized that I was a human that had taken a "drug" called DMT, and I was sitting on a log next to a fire and breathing. Breath is all there is. It *IS* Life. It's how we establish that we are alive, by breathing. With every breath that came inside me I realized there is nothing, and as the breath left me I saw that I am everything. As my self-identity was dissolved away I suddenly found my body struggling to get inside the tent and lay down, because sitting up had become nearly impossible for my vacant body to handle on its own. I also vaguely remember A being somewhat depressed by my decision to retire to the tent. But all I know is I became Breath. Breath is God. Breath spoke to me. I learned that the voice inside my head is the only voice there is, or ever was.

As my identity started to reform, I experienced a sort of re-emergence like that of ketamine almost! Only, it happened very much in my body, as opposed to the disembodied ketamine-style. I saw myself choosing to become human (again?) at the expense of knowledge and awareness. I saw myself as being inside the womb, the placenta, my thoughts that of my Mother's. I pissed all over myself during this time, as I would soon find out upon return to 3D. I experienced being born from the womb into a cold, bright World. I experienced growing up and losing the innocence of childhood. I saw myself taking on all the karma I have built up formyself in this lifetime. And I saw myself staring up at the tent ceiling, my pants and sleeping bag soaked with urine. A quick glance to my left revealed A was lying next to me in his sleeping bag, staring at the ceiling as well.

We didn't speak much after all that. We sort of understood that neither of us played much of a role in the other's trip. We each just happpened to be at the same campsite. We smoked the roach we had left behind earlier that night and I became nicely stoned with a lingering case of the tryptamine giggles. I absolutely LOVE the feeling that DMT leaves you with after the trance part is over.

All in all, this journey ended up being so completely introspective and personal that it's hard to speak of everything that happened in my head that night. All I know is that I needed this. I can see now how tripping and altering my consciousness was a major part of molding myself into who I am today, and how I don't have to feel bad or wrong about not doing it much any more (at all, really).

I remember now why I always thought of DMT as being so magical and REAL, as opposed to acid's sense of superhuman omnipotence. I don't think I see myself doing much "tripping" any more, but I don't think DMT will ever lose its place in my life.

P.S. If I've pissed anyone off here before, please forgive me. I never intended to offend, hurt, or annoy anyone.

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Well you never pissed me off =D

200mg is a hefty dose! I only have one oral DMT experience under my belt @ 80mg w/ moclobemide... certainly not as intense as what you described and I mananged not to wet myself ;) ... but magical nonetheless.

Did you find that the "trance" came over you very quickly, like you went from almost sober to completely enveloped in the experience?

No entities or aliens huh?

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Based on my one experience I found your comment that DMT is more "real" than LSD interesting. I thought I would find this true as well, considering DMT is naturally occuring in our own bodies and such. But I (and my girlfriend, who spent her trip assaulted by hindu gods and violated by aliens desperate to make human contact) found LSD, which I am much more experienced with, to be a lot more relevant to issues regarding self and humanity.

DMT seemed like entering a shamanic world where I was really just a visitor and what I experienced had little to do with myself.

LSD on the other hand is revelation after revelation about how to live a better life, and the purpose of humanity.

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That part about your shroomin' buddy thinking you were controlling his thoughts is downright fascinating :)
 
Bluedolphin, I just realized you, too, recently posted an oral DMT trip report recently. Sometimes I swear to God you are another me or something... I certainly am glad I never pissed you off. :)

And yes, 200mg *IS* a hefty dose-- almost TOO hefty. Allow me to explain why I took such a large dose... I didn't think it through! I had convinced myself that since I was taking the dmt and the harmalline in the same gelcap, that some of the dmt would be destroyed before MAO-inhibition took place. In retrospect, I don't know what I based this assumption on... at any rate, it was what Spirit had in mind for me that night, so it's what I got.

As far as the trance coming on quickly... YES IT DOES!! It is very difficult to put into words, but it all happened when I was staring across the fire at my friend. I started seeing his thoughts coming out of his head, and while I was contemplating how strange it was that I was seeing his thoughts, and that they were actually coming out of his head, is when the 'transition' occurred. It sort of sprung up on me, so that when he started exclaiming "How is that possible, how are you doing that," I didn't realize I was doing anything, or that I was in the presence of anyone else. I don't know if that makes sense, but yes it just washed over me... not as quickly as smoking DMT, of course, but it's still remarkable nonetheless how the change occurs so rapidly when I swallowed a pill that has to metabolize first.

I can't say that I was visited by aliens or insectoids, but yes there was a very familiar 'entity' there. I don't remember what it looked like, only that it was there and talking to me, and the voice it was using was the very same inner voice in my head I've been carrying around with me for 27 years now. It was strangely comforting, that the voice of DMT is the very same voice that has been whispering in my ear all along. The lesson I received, ultimately, was "You are going to be okay, Church, you always have been and you always will be... We are in this together, you and me, and I've never left your side..."

Which brings me to why I guess I say that it's so REAL... it's not that I'm saying the LSD experience doesn't feel real (in fact, you of all people should know how I feel about LSD-- I owe my life to it, and it has been the best thing that ever happened to me...)

No, what makes me say it was so real is that it didn't feel like being in an altered state, like LSD tends to. In fact, once the DMT has taken hold, it feels like THAT is all there ever was. As if I had always been in that state, and there was nothing ever to transition FROM to get there. There's also always a profound sense of deja-vu whenever I find myself in DMT Land, but it's strangely paradoxical because I don't know of any other way there IS (when I'm there). I guess what I'm saying is, I didn't mean to say that DMT is more real than LSD. They are both quite different. Rather, I would say that DMT seems to literally take me to another dimension or universe or whatever, while LSD seems to keep me in this one. DMT is an experience that just 'happens', while LSD is being directed by my thoughts and awareness. And most importantly, no matter what degree of 'ego-loss' LSD takes me to, there is always a sense of knowing that I am in an altered state, whereas with DMT it all just seems like that's the way it's supposed to be. Hopefully I'm making sense here...

And I would agree wholeheartedly with you about how LSD seems to be about the Self, and the purpose of Humanity.... I couldn't have said it better myself... on the other hand DMT (to me) seems to be about transcending the idea of even being a human, or having a purpose at all. The bottom line as I see it through the eyes of DMT, is that the only purpose there is is simply to Breathe.

I really wish I knew what my friend saw when he was looking at me. I guess it only matters to him, anyway. But I was sure flattered to hear that I appeared as a shaman to him!

Church
 
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what a beautiful report of what must have been a beautiful experience.
thanks for sharing.

So have you been tripping in the mean time?
 
I love beautiful reports like this. I need to enter another deep shamanic trance. You know, lately I've been really into the phenethylamines... I think it's time to revisit the tryptamines. I have some mimosa and B. Caapi just waiting for the right time... as well as our fungal friend. I just hold so much reverence for the tryptamines that I find it difficult to do them often at all... it's been over two years since I did any at all, aside from last night's 5-MeO-MiPT experience I just posted.
 
Thanks for bumping this Cat!!

I dont know why I never saw it or read it. This report is awesome, and the followup response is even better.

Church you still around?
 
Wow, I almost forgot all about this experience! It brings back fond memories. Yes, I'm still around, Psilo. I've recently made some changes in my professional life that allow me much more time to participate here.

Thanks for the bump, Cat. And the kind words! :) I rarely trip anymore these days. Intrestingly enough though, I just recently took half a hit of blotter, and that was the first time in like 2 years. I just wanted stop in and say hi to the acid-realm. Nothing big. I may very well take another good trip in the future though, we'll see. But mostly I have been spending a lot of time in 3D. My career change has been affording me a lot of spare time, though, so who knows what will happen...

Anywho, thanks for the kind words, guys. I remember when I posted this, and I was almost a little depressed that more people didn't repond... I thought my writing skills were pretty right-on when I wrote that! =D
 
Church said:
After setting up camp, we grilled up some falafel and munched on couscous and smoked a joint of some freshly cured Bubblegum. All I can say is YUMMY... At approximately 7:45pm, I ate a gelcap filled with 150mg Harmaline citrate and 200mg DMT freebase and downed it with some Mint tea.

it doesn't get any more hippie than this. well done!
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bluedolphin said:
DMT seemed like entering a shamanic world where I was really just a visitor and what I experienced had little to do with myself.

LSD on the other hand is revelation after revelation about how to live a better life, and the purpose of humanity.

Thats wierd because often it feels the exact opposite to me. DMT is a world where I am indeed a visitor but the inhabitants of that world tell me about myself and tell me what I am doing right and wrong in the real world. The entities have yelled at me and told me I was headed down the wrong path. Other times that have just sent me what I can only describe as "waves of love." The love is visible and it is the most beautiful thing you can see. It is everything all at once.

LSD also gives me revelation after revelation but DMT does the job equally as well (and all within 10 minutes). I never really experience ego death on DMT because the entities are always very concerned about ME. They know who I am and the speak directly to ME. It is a very different world but I am still myself. My wrong doings are exposed in the DMT world and the entities make note of MY short comings.

Does anyone experience ego death from DMT? I never do. I just experience a state where my normal self is propelled into an alien world which is very hard to make sence of. It is like my ego is detached because I look at the world from a completely different view point, one that is not my own, but I still remember who I am, or who I was. It is almost like my body and mind are taken over by something else that is not acustomed to my body. The world looks completely different because my body is inhabited by some other being, but at the same time I am still there with this other being. DMT is just straight up wierd shit but it is the best of the best IMO.

Nice trip report though! I have never experienced oral DMT but it is definitely an experience I would like to participate in. You took a hefty dose too!
 
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