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DMT Extraction FTW/L

I think that emblem probably encouraged solvent abuse, at least among teenage metal fans who were the most prominent connoisseurs of the craft when I were a lad.
 
Mailmonkey said:
This is why I wondered if you have a very hi-tech method of purifying and recrystallising, to give you low (but extremely pure) yields.
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Nope, just bogstandard DMT mailmonkey.

Not sure about what else other than DMT you're getting. "Jungle Bartoline low odour premiums"?
 
5meo-dmt for one...other alkaloids, other waxes....as jancrow says, some have yet to be properly identified....

I don't for a minute think my yields are pure n-n-dmt, but i doubt yours are either if you're using stb methods, with naphtha solvent.....
 
jancrow said:
Here's an entry point to the mysterious world of the 'other stuff'.

https://mycotopia.net/forums/holding-tank/33299-jungle-spice-mystery-alkaloids-mimosa-root-bark.html
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Nice link jancrow, obviously i've yet to read past the first paragraph, but this

So just what is Jungle spice?

Jungle spice is one of many names that has been applied to a particularly intriguing non-DMT alkaloid fraction which can be isolated from at least much of the commercially available Mimosa rootbark (See Botanical Confustication). In the most general terms, it is the alkaloid fraction obtained from the aqueous basic phase of an extraction by pulling with xylene or toluene after DMT ceases to be pulled by an aliphatic hydrocarbon solvent (naphtha, heptane, etc.). This product will almost always contain some degree of N,N-DMT; some extractors choose to remove the DMT in a hot naphtha wash to obtain a pure "jungle" experience, while others use the jungle/DMT mixture as it is.
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makes it sound as though jungle spice WON'T be puled with naphtha...

i have used some other solvents, toluene, heptane, hexane etc based panel wipes, which have produced a reddish waxy product...but I have yet to sample that one...that one I thought was jungle spice...

My very first nephtha pull is almost always off-white,light yellow, creamy, while subsequent naphtha pulls are a darker yellow.

I *thought* that the first pull was cleaner n-n-dmt, while the later ones were more impure, but the quote above seems to suggest that naphtha will only pull n,n,dmt....

Which must be hard to ascertain, as naphthas are a blend of fractions in themselves, and vary in the proportions of fractions they contain....

it's very difficult to isolate the yellow oil on its own; in addition to being soluble in xylene and toluene, it is also quite soluble in hot naphtha. This is evidenced by the fact that many people doing otherwise normal extractions report obtaining a yellow-colored product when the naphtha pulls are done heated. These yellow crytals are usually reported to be qualitatively better in terms of effects than pure DMT. Also, when washing the crude jungle spice extract with warm naphtha, many extractors report that any N,N-DMT they recover from this process is strongly yellow-colored.
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Hmmmmm, I do use heat.....


Can of worms this innit lol :D

EDIT>>>>>very tempted to have a go on my red waxy "jungle goo" after reading some of the reviews on the link jancrow supplied... :D looks like it might be MORE interesting....
 
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The 10g of stuff you're getting from bark mailmonkey - is that white crystal DMT? Or do you mean you've got 10g of waxy goo that you've scraped up from the evaporation dish?

I've never believed in jungle spice - i think if you're getting psychedelic effects then it's from the DMT. That's just my opinion - it may be right or wrong.
 
it's from freeze precipitating...i only evaporate when I got some naphtha or other solvent that I've used and reused and reused and just want to start again with a fresh one, I'll evap the old one....

it's not waxy...

it's white crystal on the first pull, then subsequent pulls are getting more yellow....

I recrystallise the whole lot and take out a layer of impurities...the whole lot ends up a light yellow...

the "jungle spice" I have is red waxy blobs...no tried it yet, and that wAS achieved through evapping a very potent looking panel wipe...

EDIT>>>>and this seems as good a place as any to put this... :D http://vimeo.com/40282439
 
Arn't the subsequent pulls only more yellow cos you're reusing the naptha? If you use clean naptha each time then the crystal stays white.
 
lol, you may well have a point there Ismene :D

So why the fuck am I able to get 12-15g per kilo, and you only5-7????

and bitoroughjack 20g?

I know the person who showed me how to do it said I should be able to manage 1% even on my first attempt, and I did, and this person also told me he manages up to 1.6% on a good run. Again, good product.
 
A little birdie told me he even gets 1.8% on a good day. I'm not weighing my DMT (I've already consumed some, twas so satisfying when my mind drifted into enlightened tranquillity and I knew it weren't solvent in that pipe), but on future runs I'll be more disciplined and work on my yield.
 
Mailmonkey said:
lol, you may well have a point there Ismene :D

So why the fuck am I able to get 12-15g per kilo, and you only5-7????
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And that's 5-7g if I'm lucky - usually a lot lower than that. And when I do any furthur freeze precipitations there's bugger all left in the bark - even if I add more hydroxide and stir forever. Maybe my method has some flaw somewhere.
 
Are you lot using lighter fluid as your naphtha source or is it available in big bottles from B&Q or some such place?
 
Coleman Gas in camping shops, vey expensive way to buy it, best ones tend to be called turps substitutes, from builders merchants, white spirits will do, also panel wipes and thinners from auto shops, but be sure to chech the MSDS's fo these to be sure of the fracrions involved....
 
I usually use Bartoline low odor white spirit from B&Q for my pulls Munroe. Using STB method with freeze precip at the end I get yields of about 8-9g of light yellow to white crystals from a kilo of bark. However, I have several things noted down that I need to refine further in order to get a better yield. Need to find me a decent enough container that allows me to pull the solvent off a bit easier when dealing with large quantities of liquid.
 
demijohns are 5 litres, and have nice narrow tops... :) Won't do a while kilo, but I reckon 2 demijohns might just do ya ;)

And time, it takes me a couple of weeks to get a proper extraction done...
 
Ismene said:
And that's 5-7g if I'm lucky - usually a lot lower than that. And when I do any furthur freeze precipitations there's bugger all left in the bark - even if I add more hydroxide and stir forever. Maybe my method has some flaw somewhere.
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not maybe - definitely.

munroe go to B & Q and go to the gardening section - Bartolines Premium Paraffin - £6.98 comes in 4litre plastic jug.
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
not maybe - definitely.
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But then you read erowid who say there has been no confirmed reading of more than 0.5% in mimosa in history. Which would mean that getting 5g is extracting absolutely every last molecule of DMT from the mimosa.

Is that paraffin rather than white spirit? What's up with white spirit?
 
Is it better to extract from pulverized root bark or complete powder? I was lucky enough at least I think to be gifted some beautiful purple "dye" powder, this will be my first extraction, quite excited and a little intimidated but my love for the little bugger is enough to make me push forward
 
Powder is better - saves you having to crush it up - but the filth view the powder as a "preparation of DMT" so it's class A.
 
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