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DMT Convulsions

bjznoviskey

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So I just tried DMT for the first time, vaporized 16mg. Last thing I remember was the smoke starting to build, next thing I know my entire body hurts and my apartment's a mess. I apparently blacked out, convulsed and thrashed through my apartment for ten minutes until my girlfriend was able to relax me. I thought I did my due diligence before going into this, I had never read anything like this. Like did I simply have the ultimate worst trip or what the fuck? I remember very little between the first pull and coming back to consciousness
 
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Holy shit bro, can't say I've heard of that happening. Especially from a normal dose like that. Can't give much help other than that it seems like an abnormal reaction. I've never seen anyone do anything but just lay back, except for one friend who stood up and laughed like a madman for about 5 minutes.

Sorry to hear about your experience! Do you find that you have a low tolerance to tryptamines in general?
 
How certain are you that what you have is DMT? That sounds REALLY abnormal. Actually, from everything I've heard and read on people's DMT experiences, it's the first I've ever heard of something like that. Way out there.

I've gone up to 50mg and was still fully aware of everything going on (admittedly my perception of my surroundings was a little skewed, but I certainly didn't black out).
 
My tolerance to tryptamines seems to be on part with the average user. And I'm not 100% sure on the product being DMT as I've not had it lab tested but others who've used the same vendor as me attest to his DMT being as advertised.


I'm still trying to integrate everything. I remember being on my stomach trying to push myself up but feeling as if I was being sucked back to the ground because everything felt as if I was spinning at an incredible speed through a vortex. When I did finally regain a grasp of reality, I saw my GF as a greenish yellow figure with purple hair and insane fractal swirling being her and I then finally felt at peace. But for the moments I don't remember, she said I was convulsing across the floor with my eyes wide open not saying a word. Apparently thrashed under a table for a minute and sent shit flying. Also remember never ending thought loops and the "am I dead"'s. I love her so much for being able to soothe me and get me back to a safe place. Shins are covered in bruises though haha.

It was certainly insane and most likely DMT(not really questioning that) as I was back to completely sober within 30 minutes.

Could it have been from a drink and a small dose of MXE that was taken 5+ hours prior?(I know I failed to mention this). I've combined MXE and 4-subs before with no problem. And It was so long before and I was certain I was sober by the time this was attempted but I'm looking at all possibilities now. And please don't lecture me on respect for the chemical and going in clean the day of, it was an on a whim thing early in the day, sorry :/

I've only had one other bad trip like this before and it was 4-HO-MET while I was watching the movie Lucy(awful choice). Otherwise, I wanna say I've had 100+ trips on 15-20 substances and never blacked outed and thrashed, or anything close to this.

Not saying I'm worried or angry or upset. Simply confused and eager yet hesitant to try again.
 
I seem to recall reading a similar experience a while ago, i had a quick look to see if i could find it just now but couldn't seem to. If i'm remembering it correctly a guy had something similar happen after several beers and then DMT. I'll keep looking to see if i can find it and post if i do.

Also possible it was 5-MeO-DMT if you're getting it from a vendor etc. which may explain things (it has a lower dose and seems to be more prone to difficult experiences.) That's pure speculation though

Good luck and maybe try a less efficient smoking method to see what's what. (If you have enough material)
 
I don't think you had Salvia, but it sounds more like that then dmt. No one smoked Salvia out of the same utensil did they?
 
I wouldn't say its unheard of. Idiosyncratic reactions happen. Psychedelics affect everyone differently. Maybe it's a one in abilkion chance, but when you're dealing with powerful psychedelics, they can always surprise you. Even though it's A low dose, its a possibility. YMMV

Still...I agree with above posts, it's entirely possible its not n,n-dmt.
 
In all honesty to me it really seems like what you have is more like 5-MeO-DALT. I watched a few friends vaporize between 15-60mg and a lot of them had difficult experiences.(except the 60mg one which was weird, as you'd expect that to go horribly wrong)

Maybe you could post a picture of what you have to help identify it? Are there anything abnormal about this batch? Color slightly off? Smells weird?
The reason I ask is because I have NEVER heard anyone having that kind of reaction to DMT. Breaking pipes and bongs because they had to sit down so fast, yes. But blacking out and trashing the house? That sounds more like a salvia/DALT mixture with a bit of some stimulant added to it. But people do experience drugs differently... so who knows.
 
yeah, would not be surprised at all if OP accidentally took 5-MeO-DMT instead of DMT, the doses don't match up otherwise
 
But more specifically it could be 5-MeO-DALT if it's white, or if its freebase it could be in tannish brown Hcl form or the actual oily dark freebase form. I've seen that the 5-MeO-DALT in the white crystal form has been gaining popularity on RC sites and some even offer it in pill form. That's the one sketchy thing about Tryptamine's is that most of them can look the same and act drastically different. 4-AcO-DMT and 4-AcO-DiPT are completely different creatures while being pretty similar at the same time.
 
Easy on the speculative IDs, guys. We all know we're only speculating and not trying to work out what the OP likely had, but it's still treading the line :)
 
My bad, I was more trying to describe how a single thing could be in multiple forms and to not just guess what it is. For safety's sake!
 
As for the method, it was the lightbuld tek. In the past I used to use this for more addictive shit, haven't in a while but you don't forgot how to do something that used to be a habit.

What I have is a pure white powder. It's not 5-meo-dalt, I've smoked that before, same method as well at higher doses. So no. Idk about 5-meo-dmt, though I haven't done it, when I came to everything seemed way to colorful and beautiful to be that(based on what I've read). And had an incredible body high. BUT, looking at the bulb after the fact, I could see I didn't even get all 16mg so not ruling out 5-MEO.

I personally think it had to do with the alcohol which may have still been in my system. My body doesn't do great processing it, the only reason I had drank prior was so my GF could pay with her card to get a glass of wine(two drink min). And I didn't even consider a possible poor reaction.

My GF is going to give this a go on our next day off together, along with my second attempt. She has no prior experience either, both attempts will be around 5mg for safety's sake. Also will make sure to be completely sober for 48hrs prior. If either of us has a non-n,n-dmt reaction, I'll be sending to ecstasydata for testing.

And something dumb to add..... it probably didn't help that when I did this I expected nothing to happen because I read how no one does it right the first time and all that BS, along with the low dose.... Will also being going in with more serious mindset next attempt.

I appreciate the discussion fellas
 
As far as method is concerned, I think that just sandwiching it between some bud works out just fine, also covers up the taste a bit.

The couple people that I have seen convulsing around it was within their first couple times doing it and then were fine after that. I haven't seen anyone trash their place but it doesn't seem too far fetched to me. One girl was rolling around so bad that she would have seriously hurt herself had I not restrained her, which was quite difficult and I am not a small dood. The meth pipe, light bulb, all that stuff can be kind of dangerous because of all the residue that builds up in them, which can make it hard to precisely measure out your dose, which I highly recommend until you get a feel for it. Hope your next go round goes a bit smoother but DMT isn't for everybody. Smoking psychs is a bit too much for me, I've decided.
 
I've see most use the bud method but I really dislike weed. I want the DMT experience to be purely DMT.

I'm aware of the build up effect, will be certain it gets a good rinse before next attempt

I'm going to give it at least two more goes before ruling it out, it's the only psychedelic avenue left unexplored for us.
 
dmt and 5me0dmt while different are also more similar then people say....the best way you can tell them apart is IMO


DMT- More colorful lucid hallucinations Oevs include portals and wormholes--more auditory effects usually a very distinct ringing in the brain---longer afterglow which can bleed into the next day---similar to salvia and 4acodmt---stronger ego dissolution threw the eyes of death more stimulating very fast transitions into other realms and dimensions more open to entity contact.....


5MEODMT--Less colorful Oevs but alot of geometric distortion detachment from spacetime--stronger body high very stoning literally glued to the floor forgetting the body exsist---less of a afterglow more visionary and confusing---also quite stimulating simalr to salvias heavy gravity effect---the beings on 5meodmt are not as plentiful as dmt also 5meodmt has a more alien salvia feel then dmt ...usually people feel like they cant breathe with 5meodmt


Dmt's lasting bombarment on the psyche tends to be more rewarding when all is said and done imo leaves one with a big smile...while 5meodmt is very alien and intense and will leave one with a wtf was that face.....

they are both wonderful teachers with no equals and understand if one has never experienced there chakras being blasted open and pineal gland popping like a cap gun.... its can be very frightening and hard on the nervous system ...one can not doubt the power of these 2 chemicals

also shulgin noted smoking 100mg of dmt which i find insane 30mg of either chemical is more then enuff when they are in pure form ...few people are built to handle such high doses
 
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