DMT (Ayahuasca) - 1st and 2nd time - Not much at all

[gz]

Ayahuasca - 1st and 2nd time - Not much at all

I recently got 4oz of Mimosa Hostilis rootbark, and 2oz of Syrian Rue from an online supplier, with the main purpose being to try Ayahuasca, but I may extract the pure stuff at some point.
My first chance to prepare and try ayahusca I decided on 8g Mimosa and 3g Rue. I threw the rue seeds in a coffee grinder for a little while, they weren't powdered but broken up well. I put the mimosa in the grinder also, and broke it up some more (although it came quite well broken up, which I was happy about) I put the mimosa in a pyrex baking dish, and covered it with a 50/50 mix of tap water and RealLemon juice. I stirred it on low for 15 minutes or so and filtered through a washcloth, then I did that once more and added the liquids together. I just took the rue with a spoon, put it at back of tongue and washed down with water. Nasty. I then drank to mimosa juice. I went in my friends truck, which probably wasn't the greatest setting, but it was fine. At least I had 2 people watching me, rather than being alone. I felt slightly altered after 15 minutes or so, and expected the effects to start coming on fast. I felt it only slightly for 30 minutes or so, then decided to smoke some pot to hopefully kick in the stuff. I felt a bit more than just stoned most of the night, but I definitely wouldn't call it tripping, or psychedelic at all. Absolutely no nausea by the way, which made me think the Rue didn't work. My thinking patterns were normal the whole night, no color enhancement or anything really. Just a hazy feeling and body buzz, possibly just from the pot.
2nd time was just earlier today. I followed the same recipe, but used 12g Mimosa and 6g Rue, and ground both up much better than last time. This time though, i mixed the rue and mimosa powder together instead of taking seperately. I drank it down (tasted like vomit) and drove to my friends house a few blocks away. I smoked some pot before, and after drinking it. The feeling was very similar to last time. Not even really much stronger. I'm not understanding why I don't trip. Could I be heating it too much? I figured low would be fine but I have no idea what temp that actually is. Does DMT break down at some temp? Harmala alkaloids?
I wanted to have my first trip this summer. My HBWR experiment didn't work at all, possibly wrong seeds. Then my 2 failed ayahuasca attempts... I have a 12" and a 7" Pedro sitting around. I'm quite tempted to eat both of them at once and get the trip i've been wanting. Nobody sells mushrooms or acid around here.

 

[Murple]

The first time you definately used too little.
The second... with the material I've used, that would've been a pretty decent to strong dose. In my experience, 10-15g of Mimosa hostilis root bark with 6-9 grams harmala seeds prepared by boiling in acidified water is enough to splatter your consciousness across several dimensions. Perhaps your stuff isn't very strong? Another possibility is that you took them together... its probably better to take the harmala about a half hour before the mimosa, so that it can inhibit the MAO. It still should've worked though, so I'd guess either your material wasn't that strong or your preparation technique was bad. Your technique doesnt sound optimal, but it should've worked and should not have destroyed any alkaloids.
Next time... powder the plant matter. Boil it in water with some lime juice for about a half hour. Strain the liquid and set it aside. Add more water+lime juice to the root powder. Boil another hald hour. Strain and add the liquid to the first batch. Maybe repeat one more time. Boil the combined liquids down to a drinkable quantity. You should not have to worry about destroying the alkaloids with a household stove, so long as you dont let all the water evaporate off and you keep stirring it.
Maybe also try with material from a different source next time. With good quality mimosa, you can actually SMELL the tryptamines in the bark...

 

[Catch-22]

Thanks for posting about your experiences!

 

[bluedolphin]

Sucks that you haven't had luck with HBWR or Ayahuasca. But if you have a 7" and a 12" San Pedro, why not eat them?

Mescaline is much more pleasant than HBWR (and from what I've heard of oral DMT, that too). Unless you are going to wait for those cacti to grow huge so you can get lots of doses from it (and you don't mind waiting a couple more years), I would take advantage of the "godfather of phens" and eat some cactus =)

 

[jonah_222]

hey

had a successful experience with HCL. pick some up at your local hardware store, and brew it down with four washes of four cups distilled water each. add fourty drops hcl to each wash.

boil down the remainder, drink.

enjoy. or something.

-j.

 

[shoebag]

Aya is very tricky. I have brewd it on over 50 occasions & still get dud brews even from the same batch. just remember that aya is a medicine & is very different from anything else.

 

[lsdod]

just a note on that cactus; I've used pedro a bit. And if you want it to be effective you'll need to consume everything you've got within a short time span ie 5-10min. Its bloody difficult to get good results short of an extraction. get a good peyote if ya can.

 

[gz]

Wow, my post from almost a whole year ago got bumped back up to being in the "Focus On" section

Thanks for all the replies :D

Anyway, last summer I unfortunately never got to experience my first trip. After I left for college, my father felt the need to explore my closet back home while I was away, which happened to be where I chose to stash my box of goodies. He found the order sheet, looked up info on all the plants I bought on the internet, and kindly sent a nasty note to my mother telling her about all of my druggy stuff. He never said a word about it to me. Theres about $180 worth of sacred plants down the drain.

However this summer I ordered some Salvia, Yopo, and Fly Argic. Might order some more later.

Tried the salvia 5x yesterday. I'm gonna go write the trip report now! edit: and here it is for those interested http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85054

 

[Splatt]

Thanks for submitting your experiment