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DMT abuse

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Just yesterday I freebased n,n dmt for my first time, and had a complete blast.
It was so beautiful yet tranquil. No breakthrough experience but it felt very close.
Tangible controllable visuals and fractals no on walls but mid air.
My question is have you known anyone who abuses this stuff?
I've heard that the tolerance drops pretty quickly and you can have breakthrough experiences basing a good dose every hour, so that leaves a lot of room for abuse
 
You'd be a headcase, and probably broke, if you had a habit of DMT abuse. It's not sustainable.

Kind of like abusing mushrooms or something, it takes a certain kind of person to enjoy it... and after a while you'll get your ass kicked by the space elves.
 
DMT can be easy to abuse. When you've got a lot of it, it seems easy to do it all the time. Multiple times a day several times a week. Yikes!

Yeah, DMT has a funny way of telling you when to stop and when to come back. And after a long break there is usually some nervousness. But then you take those few hits and the DMT spirits welcome you back with lots of joy and positivity.

I'd say use it every 1-12 months, and when using provide a day / night for it where you can use the material multiple times. I feel this formula won't anger the DMT spirits. Its almost as if they get bored that you're visiting their room for such a short time. I remember one binge I had that lasted several weeks, by the end of it the effects were not that great. I felt like they were telling me that if I wanted to come back I should just stay. I thought they meant ayahuasca. I still have yet to use DMT orally. I look forward to it. But I ended up just taking a break from the DMT for about a year. I use it very seldom now.
 
I only say to answer the question. I am not bragging...It is VERY easy and cheap as can be to 'abuse' DMT. When you extract an ounce yourself for less than $200 USD, are withdrawing from opiates, are in so much pain you NEED to be out of your body...and you don't have any ketamine...then DMT can become a source of relief (or abuse, depending on your POV.) It can be easy to use the stuff every hour in those circumstances.

DevelopingDasein said:
DMT can be easy to abuse. When you've got a lot of it, it seems easy to do it all the time. Multiple times a day several times a .
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I'm not sure. Just bought 50mg from my friend, it was a pinkish very fine powder.
I put foil under the bottom of a cut of 2L put the product on the foil, and covered the top and filled it with smoke
I thought I got it all but I didn't, so I never got to high, but quickly vaporized the rest, an had atleast twice the smoke, an that blasted my off near dissasociation.
I remember putting my hands to the sky and they looked 20 feet long
 
What does DMT feel like? I've always really wanted to try this drug but haven't ever had the chance.
 
DMT feels like a lot of things, as does life. I like to say that the presence of DMT in the brain explains why perfectly sane people one day are kidnapped by aliens and taken back to the ship. Having smoked DMT, having awareness that DMT is made in the brain, and knowing sane people think aliens do kidnap them....I make a strong connection between them.
 
It's very overwhelming in the way salvia is, but it's NOTHING like salvia.
Just your whole world fractalizes and collapses and you feel very heavy and light at the same time.
All I wanted to do was laugh, and lay down and enjoy the sheer beauty.
I'm gonna pick some more up and hopefully have a breakthrough experience this time.
 
ebola? said:
I hate to be 'that guy', but you very likely vaporized a salt of dmt, not the freebase.

ebola
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May I ask why you suggest this?

The process of extraction should result in the base, so does it perhaps pick up CO2 from the air like 2C-H base to become carbonate salt? I can't figure how you would end up with a salt of DMT by accident unless you tried to do so, and I've never heard anybody want a salt instead of base. Wouldn't it mostly decompose instead of vaporizing?

Hah not trying to be 'that guy' and be contentious for no reason! Just curious, since I've done STB extractions before and the idea of smoking a salt perplexes me.
 
I know someone who takes DMT frequently and she may or may not make it. Well I know if she does, just dunno if that's the best thing to say on the internet. However, even though she does it a lot I wouldn't say its abuse. She understands what she is doing and is quite knowledgeable. I remember listening to her talk while I sat next to her in a basement... I was tripping on acid and she talked about how crazy it is that we know more about the bottom of the ocean than our own brains.. it truly made me think... just the whole conversation in general. She is one of the most interesting people I know.

I would never do dmt as much as her or as my other friends do because I don't feel the need to. I did it once and that one time changed the way I looked at the world.. I have had other chances to smoke it, but I'm not ready... not at this time. I may this summer again.

Anyways DMT shouldnt be abused because it would most likely leave you a trainwreck... and also imo you can't make yourself have a breakthrough... the more you try to the harder it will be for it to happen. It will come on its own.
 
xstayfadedx said:
and also imo you can't make yourself have a breakthrough... the more you try to the harder it will be for it to happen. It will come on its own.
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I disagree. If you try, you will likely have a breakthrough. In fact, I think you have to try in order to breakthrough.
 
I disagree. If you try, you will likely have a breakthrough. In fact, I think you have to try in order to breakthrough.
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Bingo. I thought for a good 7 years I had broken through on DMT...until I started working with it on a more personal level (living around it, loving the plant it came from, and the magic inside, extracting it with love and good intent...instead of buying it from someone else, etc etc etc)...and only THEN did I breakthrough. In my case, I am not even sure it was a function of dosage but any more personal theories on that are off topic.
 
I meant force yourself. Try wasn't a good word.
But honestly forcing it to happen doesn't work for a lot of people I know.
I mean getting to the next level... besides the "breakthrough" you once achieved.
And I think even sometimes if you try you're not always going to get what you want.
Sometimes you're just not ready for it... to go past where you were.
Sorry I can't explain what I'm trying to say well atm (still etarded from the other day lol).
 
morninggloryindeed said:
I only say to answer the question. I am not bragging...It is VERY easy and cheap as can be to 'abuse' DMT. When you extract an ounce yourself for less than $200 USD, are withdrawing from opiates, are in so much pain you NEED to be out of your body...and you don't have any ketamine...then DMT can become a source of relief (or abuse, depending on your POV.) It can be easy to use the stuff every hour in those circumstances.
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Once again MGS knows exactly whats up. I remember it was so cheap, easy, and accessible. I loved it, had problems sleeping, it seemed to have a marked anti-depressant effect, I am/always will be pretty fucked in the head, and so I figured why the fuck not/vaped DMT daily for about a year or so. It was a pretty fucking glorious time, I would just load up anywhere from 10-150mgs into my bong one my last or second last MJ bowl for the night around 10PM-11:30, just blast off, have some fun, some serious thinking then hit the sack. If I felt like it like it I would hit a dose or so up during the day, or when I was tripping on other things. Yes I had a bit of tolerance but DMT really effects tolerance oddly as fuck and as long as you have grams upon grams....whats a couple hundred mgs extra? Nadda really. I liked that year, learned so much, felt like that was probably my biggest time of growth since beginning this ride and I also had a fucking blast in a ton of ways.

SF, you totally can force a breakthrough, literally. I get you get it, but if you load up 250mgs(rarely need more than 120mgs but some people are truly hard headed...) and the person vapes it perfectly in a few minutes, in the right time span, they will be on the ground, maybe mumbling or making incoherent noises/shaking their arms a bit for about 10 or minutes, they'll get up and either be like "HOLY SHIT WTF JUST HAPPENED?!?" or grab you by some article of clothing and rave to you whilst foaming from the mouth about what a miracle DMT is....seen it more than once.... I totally get what your saying but its like this, a break through is hitting a certain plateau with DMT, it isn't a state of mind, its how obliterated you are by the DMT, at least to me....

Anyways, what constitutes abuse anyways? Vaping DMT as an escape, or just something to have fun? People really don't do this, DMT can whip you and leave one MF'er of scar behind. its surely different from those received from the long lasting but either way getting slapped by DMT is no fun....and most people wouldn't subject themselves to this over and over unless their masochists or something!
 
Deinonychus said:
May I ask why you suggest this?

The process of extraction should result in the base, so does it perhaps pick up CO2 from the air like 2C-H base to become carbonate salt? I can't figure how you would end up with a salt of DMT by accident unless you tried to do so, and I've never heard anybody want a salt instead of base. Wouldn't it mostly decompose instead of vaporizing?

Hah not trying to be 'that guy' and be contentious for no reason! Just curious, since I've done STB extractions before and the idea of smoking a salt perplexes me.
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Heh...I was just straight-up wrong about this (I was thinking of a different alkaloid extraction that involved a non-polar wash earlier in the procedure). Sorry for the confusion.

ebola
 
Also, sometimes you try, but are unable to breakthrough. Sometimes this is a result of not putting a sufficient amount of material in the pipe, or perhaps from smoking it out of an unfamiliar pipe / method. Despite missing the breakthrough, the DMT will provide me with much enthusiasm. Then I can wait and meditate for an hour or so, and load up the pipe again. Perfect the method, making sure there is enough material loaded, and smoke that stuff until I'm just about falling through that trap door.

I think it is possible to have many breakthroughs in a night. But yeah you need to try.

Sometimes I inhale my first toke, and the DMT seems to guide me through the next two or three hits. It is as if that first hit calms me down, gets me situated, tunes me in. The second hit is when the room starts to look different. Things seems to speed up. When I go for the third toke, most of the time the bowl can seem much further away from me, the flame will dance, a fierce orange glow will emanate from the bowl. My body knows to put the pipe down, and so it does. (Much easier if there is a friend / trip sitter / partner). The smoke stays in my lungs. It seems like I've held that breath forever by the time I let it out. THis may be the startling speed of the trip.

Sometimes its a little different depending what I be smoking. Lots of different ways to smoke DMT. Exciting Stuff! Lots of ways to change the character a little bit.
 
ebola? said:
Heh...I was just straight-up wrong about this (I was thinking of a different alkaloid extraction that involved a non-polar wash earlier in the procedure). Sorry for the confusion.

ebola
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It's all good, it got me thinking about salts that can be vaporized, like meth, and I figure it's always a good thing to ponder exceptions to rules like that!
 
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