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Disturbing behavior of friend while rolling

Maybe he's showing potential for commitment and you just need crack the whip, sister.
 
Ecstasy does strange things to certain people. I once saw a guy basically revert to a little kid. He was saying everything over and over, bouncing up and down and even jumped out of the car window as we were pulling into a gas station parking lot. This was his first time ever rolling and I regretted introducing him to ecstasy. I don't know if he ever reacted like that again, because I never saw him afterwards. That was my first and last time meeting him. All I know is that before he started rolling, he was laid back, calm, and an all around sane person. When it wore off, he was just as calm, cool, and collective as he had been before. He asked for another pill. but there was no way he was getting one.

Some people just aren't meant for them. Maybe this friend of yours is one of them. Has he ever acted hostile towards you before? I wouldn't roll with him again. If you do, you're going to anticipate that at any moment he's going to become the person he was that night you spoke of and it will ruin your roll, regardless of whether he does or doesn't. That may sound a little selfish, but you should at least see how he handles himself on it around other people first. If he acts differently with others, you two roll alone again and he reverts to the former, you'll know that he has issues with you.
 
Maybe he took more than he bargained for and his ego was battling for control over the situation while the drug took his mind for a ride.
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This dead on. MDMA gets this crazy reputation for being a FEEL ECSTATIC THE WHOLE TIME and in a way it is, but if you take too much or maybe a lesser amount of some pure shit and you aren't ready for a different feel or consciousness your ego might lash out to reinforce its separateness and uniqueness. Your emotions during peak get amplified 100% and you are more sensitive to the vibes others are giving you, it's like a trip of its own. Well, this is usually if you have some GOOOOOD shit. I have had stuff where it felt like adderall x 10, but taking a lot of decent, pure MDMA is not even in the same ball park.
 
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I have seen this happen. It has even happened to myself on one occasion were ive been pissed off just before the roll and I hold that anger while rolling. Maybe what you said really touched a nerve.
 
coors light said:
I have seen this happen. It has even happened to myself on one occasion were ive been pissed off just before the roll and I hold that anger while rolling. Maybe what you said really touched a nerve.
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Perhaps - but I had to. Couldn't just let that shit slide...rolling is about fixing shit and growing closer. Ya know?
 
79skmp said:
Perhaps - but I had to. Couldn't just let that shit slide...rolling is about fixing shit and growing closer. Ya know?
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I agree. I snapped out of it myself, eventually. I just wished I hadnt been pissed off just before I started rolling, if I had been told what I was told about an hour or two into it then things would have been ok I think. As you said yourself he was grand after 45 minutes and a massage :), maybe next time if you have to ask something that touches a nerve ask when the roll has taken full effect :).

Edit: Im not trying to sound dickish either that's not my intention, sorry if the comment seems that way.
 
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Laika said:
I've seen it with higher doses and unsuspecting heads/minds where maybe they were expecting/anticipating it to go a certain way.
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Jeez. I came out of the club one night, having found my car pillaged of my uni textbooks and all valuables gone. I was still rolling, said 'La, fuck it!' then went home and smoked some pot. I just can't imagine being angry on MDMA, learn something new every day!
 
He sounds like a prick, a prick is still a prick. He might be a bit less of a prick on mdma, but at the end of the day he's still a prick

Think you get what I'm saying? He's probably just a prick?
 
I remember reading a story on here once a long time ago the same situation as you. Instead of mdma making the person happy like it should it would release anger and the person would get violent and be n asshole. It's just strange but obviously the drug can affect different people in different ways.

On a positive note you sound like an awesome person to roll with! Find a new crowd or rolling buddy next time!
 
79skmp said:
My questions are these: 1) Has anyone ever experienced such aggressive/angry behavior while rolling? If so, why? 2) What in the hell happened in my case?
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1. yes. different people respond to different drugs differently.

2. nobody here can tell you what happened. talk to your friend - he's the only one who can give you the answer.

alasdair
 
I've experienced irritation while rolling. Like, extreme irritation and stress--but never anger. It was at my first official indoor rave (I had rolled and been to many electronic concerts before) and things were hectic. It was hot, all of my friends got split up and were blowing up my phone when I was off doing my own thing and meeting people as I like to do and I had to keep running back and forth between each of my friends to check in with them. By the middle of the rave I was planted on the wall, receiving light show after light show in hopes of salvaging whatever was left of my night. The high was a complete waste, and I was FLOORED...which I believe is the reason that I felt so agitated in the first place.
 
coors light said:
I agree. I snapped out of it myself, eventually. I just wished I hadnt been pissed off just before I started rolling, if I had been told what I was told about an hour or two into it then things would have been ok I think. As you said yourself he was grand after 45 minutes and a massage :), maybe next time if you have to ask something that touches a nerve ask when the roll has taken full effect :).

Edit: Im not trying to sound dickish either that's not my intention, sorry if the comment seems that way.
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LOL, all good. It didn't seem that way :) Perhaps...maybe I'll try rolling with him again...if I can muster-up the strength.
 
Paulo_di_canio said:
He sounds like a prick, a prick is still a prick. He might be a bit less of a prick on mdma, but at the end of the day he's still a prick

Think you get what I'm saying? He's probably just a prick?
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Oh yeah, he's definitely a prick. But his "prickness" didn't calm down on MDMA...which was the strange thing. F-ing bizarre.
 
samnslumberland said:
I've experienced irritation while rolling. Like, extreme irritation and stress--but never anger.


lostsoul.On.E On a positive note you sound like an awesome person to roll with! Find a new crowd or rolling buddy next time!
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This was probably a better description of what happened to him that night. But he was still annoying the sh*t out of me...tried everything to save it...and I did.

And lost soul - thanks! I'm definitely on the lookout for cooler people to roll with.
 
I've always noticed that you can tell ALOT about someone's true side by the way the way try act on drugs.
If he gets super angry or irritated lots while doing drugs then he might simply be a very angry person, same with the people who exhibit psychopathic tendencies on psychedelics or stimulants tend to have those tendencies while sober as well, although it is much easier to mask while sober.
I'm not gonna give you relationship advice, but is say this guy sounds like a douche
Not wanting to admit his mistakes, acts like a complete dick during the roll, ten after he thanks you for an amazing night just because of a little bit of action showing he didn't realize or didn't care how obnoxious he was acting
 
Why do you keep persisting to try and roll with him again? Definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And do yourself a favor. Know your dosage. It can save a night or a life.. Just saying
 
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main possibilities

a. he hadn't come up yet when being aggressive, and you had (it takes longer to metabolize for some people)
b. whatever he took was shit/not a high enough dose
c. he's a physco/sociopath (it doesn't mean he's a serial killer, allot of people with that disorder live among us)
d. he's so guarded and macho that he can still pretend to be hard on md (fucked in the head)
e. tolerance - maybe hes taking too much/took it again within a short timespan and didn't get the effect


proper md doses cause the release of allot of oxytocin, the hormone that opens you up, makes you trust people and want to be affectionate ect. iv only ever know a couple of people who are non affectionate/aggressive on md, and im pretty sure they have some sort of psych disorder, it's conjecture on my part, but i don't think it's ridicules to think someone is fucked up mentally when they have a good amount of md in their system and want to start fights ect
 
Hey 79Skmp, I just found this site and joined, thought Id say hi since your new too. Im also new to drugs (mdma) and love it way too much. This seems like a really cool place to get info, be understood, talk and listen. Looking forward to getting to know you and others :)
 
I've felt negative emotions while rolling. It was something that really strikes a chord with me normally and I had had a high dose (from what I understand). Basically I just made the mistake of looking at my phone and seeing the wrong text from the wrong person. And when the person I was rolling with reached out to comfort me I swatted him away, which just hurt him emotionally. That kind of helped me snap out of it, since I realized what was happening. So I just went for some whiskey, resisted the urge to break every glass in the house, and let it go. Everything was honey after that! I never said what had happened though and was never asked.

Edit: I guess I should clarify it as being extreme sadness, concern that I had hurt the person who had texted me and fear that they were angry with me. Followed by a bit of irritation. I was upset with myself for upsetting the person I was with. Though I have yet to find myself in a negative place, with anything I have done, that I couldn't put the breaks on...yet.
 
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