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Disaster looms as oil slick reaches US coast

hmm... I think ratio means 90% of the human population.... of the world

but even in the worst case scenario (it's never capped) I doubt it would destroy the ocean in less than ten years. Wouldn't that take a lot longer?
 
Unbreakable said:
BP Plc’s oil spill may drive down the Gulf Coast’s shore-area property values by 10 percent for at least three years, according to CoStar Group Inc.

“The best thing you can do if you’re in real estate in this area is bide your time, don’t panic and don’t try to sell in this environment.”

leave while you can....
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You got it. News like this is typically about as accurate as the initial 5000 barrel estimate. If I owned property anywhere up to 200 miles inland from anywhere on the gulf coast I would be selling it immediately--if anyone would be foolish enough to buy it.

Here's a summary of where things stand:
- much of the northern GOM will be an anaerobic dead zone to all flora and fauna for the foreseeable future;
- this anaerobic dead zone will spread into other major bodies of water;
- it will decimate the coastal areas with which it has contact, especially those connected to fresh water;
- most of the southern coastal US will now erode significantly with every hurricane, and is essentially uninhabitable.

and if we had to assign one cause, it would be the Corexant spray, for which Mr Hayward may someday be held responsible. I wonder what war crime "extinction-level event" falls under? i know it's a bit hyperbolic, but now actually within sight of possibility...

Check out this totally mainstream media report that admits there are no answers about exactly the points that worry me most:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_25/b4183058355217_page_4.htm
 
xoqqiy axlotao3al said:
Here's a summary of where things stand:
- much of the northern GOM will be an anaerobic dead zone to all flora and fauna for the foreseeable future;
- this anaerobic dead zone will spread into other major bodies of water;
- it will decimate the coastal areas with which it has contact, especially those connected to fresh water;
- most of the southern coastal US will now erode significantly with every hurricane, and is essentially uninhabitable.
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dunno, people in Louisiana man...they'll put their houses on stilts and canoe through swamp to the store. those acadians don't play.


still makes me sad though.

:(
 
Desdenova said:
Everything else aside, that sounds super bad-ass
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i dunno man....flaming clouds?

like the sky being literally on fire? over certain parts of Louisiana I can seeing it turning into hell. (swamp gas anyone?)

i know i would be really frightened and scared out of my mind if the sky was onfire above me.
 
Flaming clouds aside (okay, I admit, I'm not one to subscribe to that one), There are plenty of hazards to base your doom on down there and out there.

- Corexit: This sh1t is deadly! Really, it is! Do some research into this toxic "just for profit" garbage and see what you come up with. Let me know if you need pointers.
- Crude: deadly! The product mix which comes up from the depths of the earth along with crude, as its ancillary "benefits", is quite deadly. Want reports there, too? Can't find them? ask.
- dead life: on shore, encroaching inland. The sickness that comes along with.
- Dead food industry: sea; land. Victim - mainland America, Canada, world.
- oil landing on oceanic shores worldwide: F.U. America. Bad juju.


P.S. Cap'n Trade is as good as in on this one. go BP!
 
Kenickie said:
i dunno man....flaming clouds?

like the sky being literally on fire? over certain parts of Louisiana I can seeing it turning into hell. (swamp gas anyone?)

i know i would be really frightened and scared out of my mind if the sky was onfire above me.
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sounds biblical :|

SA said:
Flaming clouds aside (okay, I admit, I'm not one to subscribe to that one), There are plenty of hazards to base your doom on down there and out there.

- Corexit: This sh1t is deadly! Really, it is! Do some research into this toxic "just for profit" garbage and see what you come up with. Let me know if you need pointers.
- Crude: deadly! The product mix which comes up from the depths of the earth along with crude, as its ancillary "benefits", is quite deadly. Want reports there, too? Can't find them? ask.
- dead life: on shore, encroaching inland. The sickness that comes along with.
- Dead food industry: sea; land. Victim - mainland America, Canada, world.
- oil landing on oceanic shores worldwide: F.U. America. Bad juju.


P.S. Cap'n Trade is as good as in on this one. go BP!
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Consider this my asking. lol This sounds like good reading.
 
i used to live in new orleans, and baton rouge. i worked at a few awesome restaurants down there and due to the oil spill they lost a lot of their local fisherman, shrimpers, oysters, and crabbers. That was mostly what their menu was made up. They can still get the seafood but it cost's a lot more, and it's not supporting the locals. One of the places I worked at (oyster bar) had to close because the farm they own is useless because no one can fish, and that includes everything along the coast.
This really sucks because people are stupid and think that all the seafood along the coast is contaminated with oil, and they are to scared to eat it.
It's going to take many years for all this shit to get back to normal. This is something that our kids are going to ask us someday and want to know what it was like going through North Americas worst environmental disaster. This is something serious. Tourism is hit hard with the oil spill, lots n lots of hotels, restaurants, and all the other fun things to do at the beach is going to have to look into other means in how to make money (since no one really wants to go swimming in oil, or eat poisoned fish).
I loved to go on deep-sea charters and fish my brains out way out in the gulf, but now no one can do that. Sucks for those people that are in charge of the charters, and deep-sea fishing.
All I'm saying is that until all this shit is cleaned up then no one wants to go to the beach and play in oil soaked sand (I'm not saying that all the beaches are fucked up).
Hell I used to go to Grand Isle every year to enjoy fishing, and just fun in the sun, but now since the town is knee deep in the oil theres nothing to do there, nothing at all.

BP is fucked, I think that they should PAY for everything, and all these small business shouldn't worry about how they are going to make a dime. BP is, and will pay for everything.
 
I dont know about being worse than the dust bowl, yet...
related viewing

It seems like it could be the trigger for a lot of horrible-ness. Which I kinda feel bad for thinking about but I cant help it. I just wish things were sooo different where this country wasnt based in monetary increments. Sigh. Hopefully things will change.

Really though why the hell doesnt BP have better back up plans to deal with this, sick. Now obama is summing them for a whitehouse board meeting? Please. Just plug the frikin leak? Is it really that hard? It almost starts to play into a conspiracy theory.

Funny video about BP and the spill. Built to spill?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM&feature=player_embedded

peace.
seedless
 
drscience said:
SA said:
Let me know if you need pointers.
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Consider this my asking. lol This sounds like good reading.
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Ask and you shall receive.

1993 Exxon disclosure report for the U.S. Department of Defense: http://www.valdezlink.com/corexit/media-c/Incom001.PDF_1.pdf

Symptoms of hemolytic anemia may include:

* abnormal paleness or lack of color of the skin
* jaundice, or yellowing of the skin, eyes, and mouth
* dark color to urine
* fever
* weakness
* dizziness
* confusion
* intolerance to physical activity
* enlargement of the spleen and liver
* increased heart rate (tachycardia)
* heart murmur

http://www.umm.edu/blood/anehemol.htm


38% of Corexit is Butoxy Ethanol. Wonderful stuff. Class 3 (Serious) Health Classification and Class 2 (Moderate) Flammability Classification: http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0275.pdf

MSDS for Corexit 9527: http://www.rikiott.com/pdf/9527A MSDS.pdf - 30-60% 2-Butoxyethanol (If I'm from the Gulf, Fuck me! Fucked is I!)

Avoid prolonged breathing of vapors. Use with ventilation equal to unobstructed outdoors in moderate breeze.
3. Skin and eye contact; protective clothing; treatment in case of contact:
Avoid eye contact. In case of eye contact, immediately flush eyes with large amounts of water for at least 15 minutes. Get prompt medical attention. Avoid contact with skin and clothing. In case of skin contact, immediately flush with large amounts of water, and soap if available. Remove contaminated clothing, including shoes, after flushing has begun. If irritation persists, seek medical attention. For open systems where contact is likely, wear long sleeve shirt, chemical resistant gloves, and chemical protective goggles.

- http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/products/corex952.htm
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http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/0...-of-controversial-dispersants-used-42891.html

"Small/large spill... evacuate area" - http://www.valdezlink.com/inipol/pages/corexit9527_6-14-92.htm

Ah yes, the almighty, forever trusted and never wrong Wiki, of course:

(comments in italics are mine)

The manufacturer's safety data sheet states "No toxicity studies have been conducted on this product," and later concludes "The potential human hazard is: Low." (well isn't that just a ray of reassuring sunshine on an otherwise shitty day?)

According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders" in people.[9] According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.

Reportedly Corexit is toxic to marine life and helps keep spilled oil submerged. The quantities used in the Gulf will create 'unprecedented underwater damage to organisms.'[16] 9527A is also hazardous for humans: 'May cause injury to red blood cells (hemolysis), kidney or the liver'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit
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"helps keep spilled oil submerged" - That's it! It has no other function. Hide the oil! If they can't see it on the surface, it isn't there! Magic!

Enough to get you started, methinks.

Never had a bumper sticker in my life. This is me today:

wtfbp.jpg
 
bagochina said:
Really though why the hell doesnt BP have better back up plans to deal with this, sick. Just plug the frikin leak? Is it really that hard? It almost starts to play into a conspiracy theory.
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If they could, they would. They can't. This is more serious than anyone dares to admit (in public). How serious? It will slowly come to light in the coming months.
 
This really just makes me sad. So much life will die.

This is the last thing the Gulf needed. I'm assuming its much worse than they're letting on.
 
For the North Atlantic, Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. A broad area of low pressure located about 800 miles southwest of the southernmost Cape Verde Islands has changed little in organization. However, environmental conditions appear conducive for some slow development of this system over the next couple of days as it moves west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph. There is a medium chance, 50%, of this system becoming a tropical cyclone during the next 48 hours.

http://www.stormpulse.com/
 
oil industry expert Matt Simmons on MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan Show discussing the "doomsday scenario" of the BP Oil Spill

6/7/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKLaBOeHqdY

He claims that this leak can only be fixed by 1). letting it run out by itself (could take 30 years) or 2). detonating a nuclear device close to the leak
 
Ignoring how devastating I would imagine detonating a nuclear bomb in the Gulf would be to the ecosystem and the life there, it would also be pretty bad-ass
 
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