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Disaster looms as oil slick reaches US coast

^ just for the 'mississippi canyon', you mean, which is underwater... i.e. the area where the leak is happening. that map shows soldiers deployed in LA, MS, AL and FL.

no need to exaggerate something that needs no exaggeration.
 

The Cover-up: BP's Crude Politics and the Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster


WMR has been informed by sources in the US Army Corps of Engineers, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and Florida Department of Environmental Protection that the Obama White House and British Petroleum (BP), which pumped $71,000 into Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign -- more than John McCain or Hillary Clinton, are covering up the magnitude of the volcanic-level oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico and working together to limit BP's liability for damage caused by what can be called a "mega-disaster."

Obama and his senior White House staff, as well as Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, are working with BP's chief executive officer Tony Hayward on legislation that would raise the cap on liability for damage claims from those affected by the oil disaster from $75 million to $10 billion. However, WMR's federal and Gulf state sources are reporting the disaster has the real potential cost of at least $1 trillion. Critics of the deal being worked out between Obama and Hayward point out that $10 billion is a mere drop in the bucket for a trillion dollar disaster but also note that BP, if its assets were nationalized, could fetch almost a trillion dollars for compensation purposes. There is talk in some government circles, including FEMA, of the need to nationalize BP in order to compensate those who will ultimately be affected by the worst oil disaster in the history of the world.

Plans by BP to sink a 4-story containment dome over the oil gushing from a gaping chasm one kilometer below the surface of the Gulf, where the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded and killed 11 workers on April 20, and reports that one of the leaks has been contained is pure public relations disinformation designed to avoid panic and demands for greater action by the Obama administration, according to FEMA and Corps of Engineers sources. Sources within these agencies say the White House has been resisting releasing any "damaging information" about the oil disaster. They add that if the ocean oil geyser is not stopped within 90 days, there will be irreversible damage to the marine eco-systems of the Gulf of Mexico, north Atlantic Ocean, and beyond. At best, some Corps of Engineers experts say it could take two years to cement the chasm on the floor of the Gulf.


Waaay more information at the source must read....

http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil...-the-Looming-Environmental-Mega-Disaster.html

Every day more information comes out... :) i love it
 
so, if we nationalize BP, strip it down to scrap, and hand the scrap away to those who need the compensation... does that mean we killed a "person" according to the law? lol

i really hope BP is dismantled entirely to pay these people off. not only for the people themselves, but so that FOR ONCE there is a significant punishment/deterrent done upon a corporation. it'd be a wonderful precedet!
 
Giant box close to being over oil-spewing well

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIXWYBTpLtSayJtg41LKXpxSxVPAD9FI24BG0
HARRY R. WEBER and TAMARA LUSH (AP) – 1 hour ago said:
ON THE GULF OF MEXICO — A 100-ton concrete-and-steel box plunged toward a blown-out well at the bottom of the sea Friday in a first-of-its-kind attempt to stop most of the gushing crude fouling the Gulf of Mexico.

Douglas Peake, the first mate of the supply boat that brought the box to the site, confirmed he had received a radio transmission from the nearby vessel lowering the device that it would be in position over the well soon.

The transmission said undersea robots were placing buoys around the main oil leak to act as markers to help line up the 40-foot-tall box.

A crane had lowered the box about 4,000 feet underwater before dawn Friday, with another 1,000 feet to go, Coast Guard Petty Officer Shawn Eggert said.

Once the contraption gets to the seafloor, underwater robots will secure it over the main leak at the bottom, a process that will take hours. If the delicate procedure works, the device could be collecting as much as 85 percent of the oil spewing into the Gulf and funneling it up to a tanker by Sunday. But it's never been tried so far below the surface, where the water pressure is enough to crush a submarine.

"We haven't done this before," said BP spokesman David Nicholas. "It's very complex and we can't guarantee it."

Oil giant BP PLC is in charge of cleaning up the mess in the Gulf. It was leasing the drilling rig Deepwater Horizon when it exploded 50 miles offshore April 20, killing 11 workers and blowing open the well. An estimated 200,000 gallons a day have been spewing in the nation's biggest oil spill since the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989.

The containment box will not solve the problem altogether. Crews are still drilling a relief well and working on other methods to stop the leaks.

The quest to stop the oil took on added urgency as it reached several barrier islands off the Louisiana coast, many of them fragile animal habitats. Several birds were spotted diving into the oily, pinkish-brown water, and dead jellyfish washed up on the uninhabited islands.

"It's all over the place. We hope to get it cleaned up before it moves up the west side of the river," said Dustin Chauvin, a 20-year-old shrimp boat captain from Terrebonne Parish, La. "That's our whole fishing ground. That's our livelihood."

The crew of the semi-submersible drilling vessel Helix Q4000 waited hours longer that expected to hoist the contraption from the deck of the Joe Griffin supply boat because dangerous fumes rose from the oily water. Joe Griffin Capt. Demi Shaffer told an Associated Press reporter aboard his boat the fear was that a spark caused by the scrape of metal on metal could cause a fire. Crew members wore respirators because of the fumes.

But the crane lifted the containment box from the deck and into the Gulf after 10 p.m. CDT, dark oil clinging to its white sides as it entered the water and disappeared below the surface.

The technology has been used a few times in shallow waters, but never at such extreme depths.

The box — which looks a lot like a peaked, four-story outhouse, especially on the inside, with its rough timber framing — must be accurately positioned over the well, or it could damage the leaking pipe and make the problem worse.

BP spokesman Doug Suttles said he is not concerned about that happening. Underwater robots have been clearing pieces of pipe and other debris near where the box will be placed to avoid complications.

"We do not believe it could make things worse," he said.

Other risks include ice clogs in the pipes — a problem that crews will try to prevent by continuously pumping in warm water and methanol — and the danger of explosion when separating the mix of oil, gas and water that is brought to the surface.

"I'm worried about every part, as you can imagine," said David Clarkson, BP vice president of engineering projects.

If the box works, a second one now being built may be used to deal with a second, smaller leak from the sea floor.

Meanwhile, a huge oil slick is floating in the Gulf, and residents of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida are anxiously waiting to learn when it might come ashore.

Oil from the spill is extending west around the Mississippi Delta, according to a radar image taken Wednesday night by a Canadian satellite. That extension looks like a finger reaching out from the main patch, imaging expert Hans Graber of the University of Miami said Friday.

The main oil slick has been shifting to the northwest, encroaching on Chandeleur Sound, which lies between the delicate Chandeleur Islands and Mississippi Delta wetlands, he said.

Meanwhile, a federal judicial panel in Washington has been asked to consolidate at least 65 potential class-action lawsuits claiming economic damage from the spill. Commercial fishermen, business and resort owners, charter boat captains, even would-be vacationers have sued from Texas to Florida, seeking damages that could reach into the billions.

"It's just going to kill us. It's going to destroy us," said Dodie Vegas, who owns a motel and cabins in Grand Isle, La., and has seen 10 guests cancel.

Associated Press writers Ray Henry, Cain Burdeau, Holbrook Mohr and Vicki Smith in Louisiana, Brian Skoloff in Mississippi, Malcom Ritter in New York and Curt Anderson in Miami contributed to this story.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
Hope it works!
 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor.../Gulf-Mexico-oil-spill-BP-caps-ONE-leaks.html
 
What a massive cluster fuck. Ugly horrible situation. What could possibly happen next? Sometimes I wonder if people would all concentrate on a positive healing energy if that would help over come some issues. If CNN had there half hour daily meditation show where they would give people topics to focus there healing energy on we would live in a better world. Not going to happen though unfortunately and don't say they already have that on 'church tv' because we already have that and it is not enough.

peace.
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wise people say that you never know when a disaster will be a blessing, and a blessing a disaster. just some food for thought.

its interesting because not more than a week ago i was talking with a big time conservative, anti-regulation, no need to blame corporations because big government is the problem type. i can't WAIT to bring up this recent shit show.

my heart truly goes out to the world on this one. we are ALL effected. i personally try to be in the ocean surfing as much as possible. seeing waves crash and leave a soapy residue is is bad enough. this catastrophe is just fucking terrible. i continue to weep. hopefully something good will come of it.
 
Effort to place dome over oil well dealt setback, BP says Complications found

The effort to place a containment dome over a gushing wellhead was dealt a setback when a large volume of hydrates - crystals formed when gas combines with water - accumulated inside of the vessel, BP's chief operating officer said Saturday.

The dome was moved off to the side of the wellhead and is resting on the seabed while crews work to overcome the challenge, Doug Settles said.

Source:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/0...e-over-oil-well-dealt-setback-bp-says/?hpt=T1

http://ge.ssec.wisc.edu/modis-today/ <-----Satellite

This is a pic from NASA Terra satellite, May 8.
Look and give me your opinions.
Be patient, the pic is 2,5MB.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5104/spillnasamay8.jpg <---mind all the questions not my picture, just high res so posted


Man this is looking every day worse and worse.....
 
wise people say that you never know when a disaster will be a blessing, and a blessing a disaster. just some food for thought.

its interesting because not more than a week ago i was talking with a big time conservative, anti-regulation, no need to blame corporations because big government is the problem type. i can't WAIT to bring up this recent shit show.

my heart truly goes out to the world on this one. we are ALL effected. i personally try to be in the ocean surfing as much as possible. seeing waves crash and leave a soapy residue is is bad enough. this catastrophe is just fucking terrible. i continue to weep. hopefully something good will come of it.


First off I haven't read through this whole thread, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this.

Do you realize that BP didn't have to make any "blow out" precaution scenarios for this rig because the US agency regulating offshore drilling didn't see such a thing as important? You do realize that if swift action were taken the environmental damage would most likely be significantly lower? Moreover, the site lacked what is known as an acoustic trigger which closes the valve coming out of the ground. This piece costs around $500,000. In other locations in the world this technology is required for offshore oil rigs, but not the good ol' USA. I wonder why..it can't have anything to do with big oil lobbyists..no way!

Sure BP is at fault, but the US gov't is also at fault for not adhering to more strict regulations with regards to offshore drilling. Here we are wanting to increase offshore drilling in several sites off the coasts of the US, and the people regulating this drilling are corrupt and irresponsible. I am sickened by the corrupted trash that we call a government. The worst thing is that I don't know what to do about the whole situation while studying medicine full time..just what they want, people who really care about what is going on often have no time for activism if they want to be able to support themselves and a family in the future.

It is terrible to think of all the consequences that could have been avoided by a simple $500,000 part. I guess some BP big wig has a nice new Bentley though right? Also, I'm sure more than a few politicians are gleeful over their campaign funds received from big oil.
 
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Found this PDF from the Minerals Management Service from 2005 which estimates the size of the reserve into which the Deepwater Horizon was drilling:

3,528 million barrels of oil (at 60 degrees F)
8,956 billion cubic feet of gas (at 60 derees F and 15.025 psia)

Page 16: http://www.gomr.mms.gov/PDFs/2009/2009-022.pdf
That's a *lot* of freaking gas....Does that look like DOOM to any of you?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100509/sc_afp/usblastoilenergypollution_20100509201726

Concern grew Sunday that the US Gulf coast is facing a whole new level of environmental disaster after the best short-term fix for a massive oil spill ran into serious trouble.

BP's giant containment box lay idle on the seabed as engineers furiously tried to figure out how to stop it clogging with ice crystals.

The British energy giant, which owns the lion's share of the leaking oil and has accepted responsibility for the clean-up, has tried to banish the notion that the dome is a "silver bullet" to end the crisis.

But should efforts fail to make the giant funnel system effective, there is no solid plan B to prevent potentially tens of millions of gallons of crude from causing one of the worst ever environmental catastrophes.

Untold damage is already being done by the 3.5 million gallons estimated to be in the sea so far, but the extent of that harm will rise exponentially if the only solution is a relief well that takes months to drill.
 
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"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."


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Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/gulf.oil/index.html?hpt=T2

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."

We are in deep shit if this is the "Best Idea" on the fucking table right now?
 
ummm... a junk shot is a tool used to *remove* debris from downhole; not introduce it. it would appear that a commandant of the coast guard has now become a drilling expert, re-defined the term to mean something completely the opposite, and managed to get it quoted all over the internet. 8)
 

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."


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Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/09/gulf.oil/index.html?hpt=T2

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."

We are in deep shit if this is the "Best Idea" on the fucking table right now?

This is getting to be rather comical, in a not so funny way.

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