Disaster looms as oil slick reaches US coast

[Unbreakable]

Do you know Russia has proposed the Idea of sending in a Nuke.....Russia say they have had this problem before and used many Nukes deep under the water to stop it.... lets see if Obama gives it go after; chucking garbage down the fucking thing wont work...

 

[felix]

hahaha bullshit.

 

[Unbreakable]

^ i can post the article if needed... idk if your like bullshit is like i cant not believe Russia has already done this...or bullshit; they never said/did that you lie...

 

[ForceSith]

Well...as an engineer, I would venture to guess that detonating nuclear weapons underwater near a (small) hole would probably result in a much, much bigger hole, especially because water can sometimes magnify the effect and power of an explosive shockwave.

I'm not quite sure many people fully understand the effect a pressure depth of 5,000 feet can have on most conventional engineering. Not only do the basic equations of state change to reflect the high pressure/low temperature situation the hole is at, but this can completely change a lot of the macroscopic effects that we are used to at sea level and even a tiny bit below. I would wager a good amount of money that for the past several weeks there has been a metric fuckton of overtime being used up by BP's chemical engineers in attempting to come up with creative ideas to fix this 8)

 

[bit_pattern]

^ i can post the article if needed... idk if your like bullshit is like i cant not believe Russia has already done this...or bullshit; they never said/did that you lie...

Yes, I need, it will be fun to laugh at the crap that passes as a source for you. These things are monitored constantly, if Russia had been setting off nukes, underwater or anywhere else, we'd know about it.

 

[Pillthrill]

That satellite pic really shows you how bad it is!
This is just another reason we need to push for greener energy.
Although my s.o. is not really pleased with this since he is a huge fan of older cars.
Gotta do something!
BP better be donating immense amounts of money to green energy development IMO!

 

[marsmellow]

Fuck the media, fuck multinational corporations and fuck the USA

The funnel idea failed now they are going to try this:

"They're actually going to take a bunch of debris, shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that and under very high pressure shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak," Allen, who is leading the US government's response, told CBS's "Face the Nation."

This could be risky as experts have warned that excessive tinkering with the blowout preventer -- a huge 450-ton valve system that should have shut off the oil -- could see crude shoot out unchecked at 12 times the current rate.

There are also fears the slick, which covers an area of about 2,000 square miles (5,200 square kilometers), could be carried around the Florida peninsula if it spreads far enough south to be picked up by a special current.

Meanwhile, the Obama Administration continues to let oil companies police themselves:

Since the Deepwater Horizon oil drilling rig exploded April 20, the Obama administration has granted oil and gas companies at least 27 exemptions from doing in-depth environmental studies of oil exploration and production in the Gulf of Mexico.

60% still favor offshore drilling:

Even so, the new poll finds 60 percent of voters favor increasing offshore drilling in U.S. coastal areas, while 33 percent oppose it. Last month, 70 percent favored it and 22 percent were opposed, and previous Fox News polls showed just over 7 voters in 10 favored increasing offshore drilling (71 percent favored it in 2008, and 72 percent in 2009).

To be honest, I kind of hope that they blow that valve open and ruin the Gulf of Mexico. Maybe the American people might finally wake the fuck up then. Not just about oil and the environment, but also about the stupidity of free market ideology and the blatant corruption which has infested every part of the government. Maybe?

Anyways, why did this happen in the first place? One, because the foxes were guarding the henhouse. The oil companies were in charge of the agencies which were supposed to regulate them. And they still are.

Number two, because the Bush Administration let them get away with not having an emergency shut off switch. Probably because they thought the oil companies would regulate themselves.

As usual, the problem can be traced to corruption and right-wing free market ideology. They caused this oil spill, just like they caused the recession and the financial crisis. Those two things are the main reasons why America is so screwed up right now. I wonder when people will finally wake up and realize that??

 

[bagochina]

Do you think the box idea was just a sham to buy more time?

peace.
seedless

 

[Wyld 4 X]

Number two, because the Bush Administration let them get away with not having an emergency shut off switch. Probably because they thought the oil companies would regulate themselves.

As usual, the problem can be traced to corruption and right-wing free market ideology. They caused this oil spill, just like they caused the recession and the financial crisis. Those two things are the main reasons why America is so screwed up right now. I wonder when people will finally wake up and realize that??

I was actually liking this post until you had to get all nuts and make it a classic case of left wing emotional drivel. Seriously, how many times can you blame B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-ush for every bad event that happens in the world? He hasnt been in office for more than 2 years. Obama owns this now so get over it. All we can do now is fix the mess, clean up the result and hope like hell the ecology will not be too damaged. Pissing and moaning about Bush doesnt make any less oil leak into the GoM.

 

[Mehm]

^^sorry, when exactly was rig built again? I'm not sure, but I'll bet it was more than two years ago.

Bush fucked over the entire world horribly and Obama continues the elite legacy. They are both terrible.

 

[felix]

^ i can post the article if needed... idk if your like bullshit is like i cant not believe Russia has already done this...or bullshit; they never said/did that you lie...

oh, i wouldn't call you a liar, i'm just saying that setting off nukes underwater to try and stem an oil leak is complete fantasy.

Do you think the box idea was just a sham to buy more time?

no. that technique has been used many times before, but not in such deep water.

a sham wouldn't be of any benefit, you can bet your ass BP want this plugged quicker than anyone.

 

[Shimmer.Fade]

Yea Wyld did you not notice the part where he quoted:

Since the Deepwater Horizon oil drilling rig exploded April 20, the Obama administration has granted oil and gas companies at least 27 exemptions from doing in-depth environmental studies of oil exploration and production in the Gulf of Mexico.

Those crazy left wingers!! Now they are even having it at their own!! Bush's ripple effect is making its way out, and it is hard to say when all of the scum from his time will be cleaned away. However, the Obama administration is NOT helping this ripple die away, and is indeed making things worse. So you have to be a crazy left winger to completely hate our government, and the direction it has taken, and the direction it continues to take? IMO all this shit started awhile ago (Nixon..if not before..), and was enabled by the events under FDR which expanded the central government so massively along with the continued decrease in power of individual states which started long before.

 

[Shimmer.Fade]

This shooting trash idea looks really stupid. They seriously can't come up with a safer way to block a fucking hole? Why not at least try to find a few things about the diameter of the pipe to shove in it?

 

[bit_pattern]

I was actually liking this post until you had to get all nuts and make it a classic case of left wing emotional drivel. Seriously, how many times can you blame B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-ush for every bad event that happens in the world? He hasnt been in office for more than 2 years. Obama owns this now so get over it. All we can do now is fix the mess, clean up the result and hope like hell the ecology will not be too damaged. Pissing and moaning about Bush doesnt make any less oil leak into the GoM.

Ahaha. Yeah, Bush and Halliburton had NOTHING to do with this problem 8)

God you're such a partisan hack.

 

[Unbreakable]

Yes, I need, it will be fun to laugh at the crap that passes as a source for you. These things are monitored constantly, if Russia had been setting off nukes, underwater or anywhere else, we'd know about it.

As BP prepares to lower a four-story, 70-ton dome over the oil gusher under the Gulf of Mexico, the Russians — the world’s biggest oil producers — have some advice for their American counterparts: nuke it.

Komsomoloskaya Pravda, the best-selling Russian daily, reports that in Soviet times such leaks were plugged with controlled nuclear blasts underground. The idea is simple, KP writes: “the underground explosion moves the rock, presses on it, and, in essence, squeezes the well’s channel.”

Yes! It’s so simple, in fact, that the Soviet Union, a major oil exporter, used this method five times to deal with petrocalamities. The first happened in Uzbekistan, on September 30, 1966 with a blast 1.5 times the strength of the Hiroshima bomb and at a depth of 1.5 kilometers. KP also notes that subterranean nuclear blasts were used as much as 169 times in the Soviet Union to accomplish fairly mundane tasks like creating underground storage spaces for gas or building canals.

These kinds of surgical strikes to shut off underground leaks, however, were carried out only five times, with the last one occuring in 1979. And there was only one misfire, near Kharkov, Ukraine, where a nuclear blast was unable to stanch a gas leak.

Happily, with a track record like that, “the chances of failure in the Gulf of Mexico are 20%,” KP writes. “The Americans could certainly risk it.”

via KP.ru, and the inimitable Kevin O’Flynn of The Moscow Times

Source:
http://trueslant.com/juliaioffe/2010/05/04/nuke-that-slick/

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ojCbqfRRr8 <-- From Russian News SITE called R/T


Here is a example my friend... from the Russian News site in english... Mybe the filter wont let you see it in Australia.... but they did do it


Update to oil spill: It has been reported that the Russians, under the cloak of their own security, have sent a mega-class nuclear submarine to check out the gulf waters. According to their leaky press department, they just had to get the guys out of town.

 

[marsmellow]

I was actually liking this post until you had to get all nuts and make it a classic case of left wing emotional drivel.

LOL... I guess you didn't see the posts I made earlier in this thread. The Bush Administration did play a part in this, no matter how much you want to ignore it.

btw how the fuck will they stop this for real?

They could have stopped it easily if they had this.

The leaking Gulf of Mexico oil well lacked a remote-control shutoff switch that two other major oil producers, Norway and Brazil, require,

But nnnnoooo, that would have been government interference in the free market, and you know how bad that is. 8)

On the first page I pointed out that this oil well lacked a safety shut off valve that other countries require. Guess why the US doesn't require it? Because the Bush Administration thought the oil companies would regulate themselves:

"There was a big debate under the Bush administration whether or not to require additional oil drilling safeguards but [federal regulators] decided not to require any additional mandatory safeguards, believing the industry would be motivated to do it themselves," Carl Pope, Chairman of the Sierra Club told ABC News.

 

[Unbreakable]

"Apparently the US GOV. says they have no more
boom for LA. It's all been used in dredging oil to keep
the oil contained in the GOM.

Please call the congress and give them piece of your mind
This is very important...

Norway has about 50 tons of boom they will sell us, but red
tape is keeping it from being flown here. It's the cost factor. COST MY ASS! BP IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR IT ALL. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG8JHSAVYT0&feature=player_embedded

New Video of the destruction...
The Govt Knows the boom efforts are futile.

This freaking thing is so enormous.,
I have friends working the spill - The oill is suspended up
through out the water column meaning it will easily go under the booms.


This video show in grand scale what we are facing and why the booms are of no use.

Maybe close to shore they will help along with the hay but the enormity of this is just not comprehensible.


Pray and believe

The news is not covering this story properly

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37060359/ns/us_news-gulf_oil_spill/

BP begins spraying underwater chemical dispersants on the massive oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico after receiving EPA OK.

 

[Unbreakable]

Scientists fear Gulf oil spill could deal lethal blow to already weakened coastal wetlands

Battered by hurricanes, weakened by erosion and flood-control projects, the sprawling wetlands that nurture Gulf of Mexico marine life and buffer coastal cites from storm surges now face another stern test as a monster oil slick creeps ever closer.

About 40 percent of the nation's coastal wetlands are clumped along southern Louisiana, directly in the path of oil that was still gushing Monday from a ruptured underwater well. Roughly 3.5 million gallons has escaped in the three weeks since an oil rig explosion, and some is bearing down on the marshes as workers rush to lay protective boom.

"No question we will see some widespread impacts," Garret Graves, chairman of the Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority of Louisiana, said after an observation flight. "If we allow this oil to get into our coastal areas and fundamentally change the ecosystem, the consequences are profound."

Removing oil from wetlands is a huge challenge. Bulldozers can't simply scrape away contaminated soil, as they do on beaches. Cutting and removing oil-soaked vegetation could further weaken the fragile vegetation that holds the marshes together. Absorbent materials and detergents have limited effectiveness, Graves said.

If a thick enough layer of oil coats hardy swamp grasses and shrubs, scientists say it could shut down their equivalent of breathing — absorbing carbon dioxide and releasing oxygen.

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/1...nds/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4:r2:c0.000000:b0:z5

They are not struggling to find a solution. They are doing idiotic things to pass the time like trying to cap it with a box or throwing garbage at it. Maybe because they know any real effort is futile and they are merely serving their masters by keeping the distraction going until it's undeniable to average people that the earth changes are here and they are huge.

 

[severely etarded]

The entire gulf of mexico has a "fish consumption advisory" in effect... Source: Me... I saw a sign in south padre island on the bay where people like to fish... If you want to call me a liar, go ahead... I don't have sources

 

[Wyld 4 X]

Ahaha. Yeah, Bush and Halliburton had NOTHING to do with this problem 8)

God you're such a partisan hack.

Add libbing is probably in another thread if you want to try out your tired act there. Good luck.