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3-Day Diphenhydramine Binge
3 days ago, I embarked on a nightly 3-day journey/exploration of Diphenhydramine. I tried to take notes and write trip reports for the first two trips, but for the third one I’m just pulling from memory, which may or may not be factually accurate. I tend to think it is, though.
Experience:
-Cannabis (daily)
-Ecstasy (MDMA cut with caffeine, one experience)
-Diphenhydramine (therapeutic dose)
-DXM (occasional use, never been past a low second plateau dose)
-Ketamine (single dose in a medical context, experienced)
-Alcohol
-Synthetic cannabinoids (spice product)
Body Weight: 215 lbs
TRIP ONE: 10:38 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 150mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:05 – 1 bowl Cannabis
+0:10 – 50mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: None
I’ve known about the sedative and deliriant effects of DPH for the longest time, but I honestly didn’t care that much about it. I knew it was a delirious, dysphoric high, and I even asked my experienced psychonaut friend B what he thinks and he just said “never take it.” He didn’t even explain anything about it, and I think he was on coke at the time. He’s experienced but not too cautious about drugs, he starts with a fairly high dose, and I think that can taint the experience.
I do have some limited experience with therapeutic doses of DPH. When I was a kid, we were on a family vacation and my asthma was acting up due to allergies, my mom probably just gave me 25 mg. Being only 100 lbs or so at the time, the sedation hit me hard. I distinctly remember this lethargic, drowsy state, and for years I thought nothing of it.
So as it always turns out with drugs and me, curiosity gets the best of me. Like with my first DXM trip when I had 315mg of DXM staring me right in the face and I don’t know how I got to that point, this night at 10:38, I had 100-25mg capsules of straight Diphenhydramine HCl staring me right in the face, and I have this crazy irrational urge to dose on it. I quickly check Erowid on my web phone to find out that a “common” dose is between 150 and 300mg. Considering my relatively high weight (I’m 6’4”, 215 lbs), I decided to dose at 150 mg. There are small amounts of nervousness present from dosing, but other than that, my general mindset is positive. No negative vibes at all. A few minutes after dosing, I smoked a bowl of cannabis, probably 0.3 grams. The cannabis relaxed me, but in no way was I “stoned out of my mind”. For some reason though, after the weed bowl, I decided to up my dose to 200mg by taking only 2 more 25mg capsules. I NEVER feel ANY paranoia from weed. Not once. But this time I was feeling a little anxious that I would see something I wouldn’t like, or that I had made a mistake. It quickly passed and I still don’t experience paranoia ever. After that I smoked a cigarette and went inside the house. I went up to my room and gathered some supplies, like headphones, chocolate, and my iPod touch to document my trip with.
At +0:30, I wrote, “I seem to be very confused, and maybe it’s because of the chemical that ingested, or” and I fell asleep mid sentence. What a waste of a trip. I will comment, however, that at about 3:30 or so, I awoke, and was in this extremely confusing, foggy haze. It even seems like my vision was clouded with this blue haze. I felt sedated and heavy and have no idea why I even woke up at all with such a (relatively) heavy dose. Soon I was back asleep and in the morning, the only thing I remembered was this short little snippet of me staring into the blue haze in the darkness of my room. Trip failed.
TRIP TWO: 10:52 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 250mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:40 – 1 bowl kief
+0:50 – 100mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: Mild
The next night, I stupidly decided to retry my trip from the night before. This time, I dosed 250mg. Even best-laid plans can fail, and after a really strong bowl of kief that I got out of my grinder, I took another 100mg, bringing me to 350mg. This time, I was going to do it right. I decided to opt out of using a stimulant to keep me awake. I had toyed with the idea of drinking an energy drink or some sort of energy booster, but I decided to use my willpower in case the trip turned sour, I could easily close my eyes and I’d fall asleep and be safe. In retrospect, I sincerely believe that 350mg the day after a 200mg dose is actually less of a dose considering tolerance.
At 11:59, just about an hour after dosing, I wrote “pretty high, I packed my cigarettes really methodically and robotically. I feel a strong buzz but I’m pretty high as that kief bowl was rather strong… Half an hour yet til I feel those 100mg. I gotta get inside!” When I wrote that last sentence, I was starting to get a little bit anxious or paranoid and I felt like there were little Diphenhydramine monsters coming to eat me, and it was this whole epic quest just to get inside. I just brushed the anxiety off, piece of cake. This entire time since the first dose, I had been sitting in my car at the bottom of my street and around the corner a little bit. I was probably 200 feet or so to my house. At 12:02, I wrote “Just drove home, it was easy to focus on the road the 200ft to my house. Finishing a cig, strong mental buzz now. I saw a moving blinking airplane light, but when it went behind some trees, it disappeared and never came out the other side. I sincerely believe it was real and not a hallucination, merely caused by the physics of the atmosphere. About to get out and go inside.” That was the last journal entry I made, not because I got so severely impaired, but because there was a marked lack of impairment, I just assumed I could remember it.
I went inside and began preparing some food. I had the munchies, so naturally I would have eaten a lot. I ate two pieces of toast and some cereal and some cookies. At this point I was feeling a severe buzz, neither euphoric or dysphoric. I honestly think that Diphenhydramine can induce utter apathy. Between 12:00am and 1:30am, the effects were pretty constant the entire time, I just watched TV and tried to judge how I was feeling. During the entire trip there were no visual hallucinations at all, which disappointed me, as I had heard that the only value in a Diphenhydramine trip was the visuals, which are mildly entertaining at best. I did hear some very faint audio hallucinations, and all of them were dull, bassy thuds as if someone was walking around upstairs. I thought for a few times that one of my parents was coming down, but when no one came, I decided that I had experienced those audio hallucinations. How fun are these hallucinations? Not fun at all, pretty boring. The only other notable effect was a mild sense of discomfort, almost like I wasn’t comfortable in my body. I can almost liken the feeling to when I’m coming up on MDMA, but before the euphoric feelings hit. It’s just a really distinct “chemical” feel in my body, and it doesn’t feel good, but it’s only a little bit irritating, nothing to freak out about and easily ignored.
At 1:30 I decided to head up to bed. My god awful stairs make such a huge racket when you walk up them that it undoubtedly woke up my dad. He came into my room in probably more of a delirium than me, and assumed that I had just gotten home, and in his fatigue, started to get mad at me for getting home an hour and a half late. For some reason this pissed me off, far more than usual, and I believe it was the drug. I snapped back at him, telling him that I’d been home since midnight, and I kept wanting to say something like “Haven’t you ever heard of a TV?! DUH I’ve been home!” I just felt so pissed off at him. Right after this encounter I fell asleep. After effects in the morning include increased alertness, a general feeling of being “refreshed”, and a general positive mood lift. I believe that Diphenhydramine is almost relieving with its after-effects. They feel so great in the morning.
TRIP THREE: 10:20 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 250mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:05 – 150mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: High
I found myself sitting in my car that night gazing at my bottle of DPH pills and deciding whether to dose. The night before I had made a resolution to wait 4 days for the tolerance to drop before I dosed again. Unfortunately I’m a dumbass and dropped 250mg, only to wait 5 minutes at which point I decided to drop another 150mg, bringing my grand total to 400mg. As I was getting out of my car, my friend T from across the street drives up and he starts talking to me. I ended up hanging out over at his house across the street until about 11:45. We just tried making some music with his electronic DAW, ate some food, and messed around with his cats and dogs. By the time I left, I was feeling the exact same body buzz, but much milder and without that “chemical” feeling I described earlier that makes me want to get out of my body. It was just a floating, drunken state, but I could perform and act completely normal, as my friend T had no idea I was under the influence of anything at any time.
A note about the tolerance: my tolerance has gone up extremely fast over these 3 days, no wonder that its label use is for “occasional” sleeplessness. I bet that if I took 400mg tonight (which I’m NOT gonna do), that I would hardly even feel anything at all, not even a mild sedation.
Overall, I’d say that Diphenhydramine is just plain old boring. The buzz was nothing to brag about, no euphoria to speak of. I do plan on taking 400mg in 4 days after my tolerance has gone down a bit. Maybe that might be a little much, but I just want to see visuals so bad, as I have never hallucinated with any drug, and I wanna see something crazy, even if that means opening Pandora’s Box never to return. I want to experience that scopolamine delirium.
WARNING: The 3rd day, I took 400mg with barely any effects at all. Don't read that and assume that because you're 200 lbs, you can take 400mg and be just fine like I was. I had built a tolerance and used 550mg in the 48 hours prior. When I take 400mg in 4 days, I'm expecting it to be MUCH stronger.
3 days ago, I embarked on a nightly 3-day journey/exploration of Diphenhydramine. I tried to take notes and write trip reports for the first two trips, but for the third one I’m just pulling from memory, which may or may not be factually accurate. I tend to think it is, though.
Experience:
-Cannabis (daily)
-Ecstasy (MDMA cut with caffeine, one experience)
-Diphenhydramine (therapeutic dose)
-DXM (occasional use, never been past a low second plateau dose)
-Ketamine (single dose in a medical context, experienced)
-Alcohol
-Synthetic cannabinoids (spice product)
Body Weight: 215 lbs
TRIP ONE: 10:38 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 150mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:05 – 1 bowl Cannabis
+0:10 – 50mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: None
I’ve known about the sedative and deliriant effects of DPH for the longest time, but I honestly didn’t care that much about it. I knew it was a delirious, dysphoric high, and I even asked my experienced psychonaut friend B what he thinks and he just said “never take it.” He didn’t even explain anything about it, and I think he was on coke at the time. He’s experienced but not too cautious about drugs, he starts with a fairly high dose, and I think that can taint the experience.
I do have some limited experience with therapeutic doses of DPH. When I was a kid, we were on a family vacation and my asthma was acting up due to allergies, my mom probably just gave me 25 mg. Being only 100 lbs or so at the time, the sedation hit me hard. I distinctly remember this lethargic, drowsy state, and for years I thought nothing of it.
So as it always turns out with drugs and me, curiosity gets the best of me. Like with my first DXM trip when I had 315mg of DXM staring me right in the face and I don’t know how I got to that point, this night at 10:38, I had 100-25mg capsules of straight Diphenhydramine HCl staring me right in the face, and I have this crazy irrational urge to dose on it. I quickly check Erowid on my web phone to find out that a “common” dose is between 150 and 300mg. Considering my relatively high weight (I’m 6’4”, 215 lbs), I decided to dose at 150 mg. There are small amounts of nervousness present from dosing, but other than that, my general mindset is positive. No negative vibes at all. A few minutes after dosing, I smoked a bowl of cannabis, probably 0.3 grams. The cannabis relaxed me, but in no way was I “stoned out of my mind”. For some reason though, after the weed bowl, I decided to up my dose to 200mg by taking only 2 more 25mg capsules. I NEVER feel ANY paranoia from weed. Not once. But this time I was feeling a little anxious that I would see something I wouldn’t like, or that I had made a mistake. It quickly passed and I still don’t experience paranoia ever. After that I smoked a cigarette and went inside the house. I went up to my room and gathered some supplies, like headphones, chocolate, and my iPod touch to document my trip with.
At +0:30, I wrote, “I seem to be very confused, and maybe it’s because of the chemical that ingested, or” and I fell asleep mid sentence. What a waste of a trip. I will comment, however, that at about 3:30 or so, I awoke, and was in this extremely confusing, foggy haze. It even seems like my vision was clouded with this blue haze. I felt sedated and heavy and have no idea why I even woke up at all with such a (relatively) heavy dose. Soon I was back asleep and in the morning, the only thing I remembered was this short little snippet of me staring into the blue haze in the darkness of my room. Trip failed.
TRIP TWO: 10:52 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 250mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:40 – 1 bowl kief
+0:50 – 100mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: Mild
The next night, I stupidly decided to retry my trip from the night before. This time, I dosed 250mg. Even best-laid plans can fail, and after a really strong bowl of kief that I got out of my grinder, I took another 100mg, bringing me to 350mg. This time, I was going to do it right. I decided to opt out of using a stimulant to keep me awake. I had toyed with the idea of drinking an energy drink or some sort of energy booster, but I decided to use my willpower in case the trip turned sour, I could easily close my eyes and I’d fall asleep and be safe. In retrospect, I sincerely believe that 350mg the day after a 200mg dose is actually less of a dose considering tolerance.
At 11:59, just about an hour after dosing, I wrote “pretty high, I packed my cigarettes really methodically and robotically. I feel a strong buzz but I’m pretty high as that kief bowl was rather strong… Half an hour yet til I feel those 100mg. I gotta get inside!” When I wrote that last sentence, I was starting to get a little bit anxious or paranoid and I felt like there were little Diphenhydramine monsters coming to eat me, and it was this whole epic quest just to get inside. I just brushed the anxiety off, piece of cake. This entire time since the first dose, I had been sitting in my car at the bottom of my street and around the corner a little bit. I was probably 200 feet or so to my house. At 12:02, I wrote “Just drove home, it was easy to focus on the road the 200ft to my house. Finishing a cig, strong mental buzz now. I saw a moving blinking airplane light, but when it went behind some trees, it disappeared and never came out the other side. I sincerely believe it was real and not a hallucination, merely caused by the physics of the atmosphere. About to get out and go inside.” That was the last journal entry I made, not because I got so severely impaired, but because there was a marked lack of impairment, I just assumed I could remember it.
I went inside and began preparing some food. I had the munchies, so naturally I would have eaten a lot. I ate two pieces of toast and some cereal and some cookies. At this point I was feeling a severe buzz, neither euphoric or dysphoric. I honestly think that Diphenhydramine can induce utter apathy. Between 12:00am and 1:30am, the effects were pretty constant the entire time, I just watched TV and tried to judge how I was feeling. During the entire trip there were no visual hallucinations at all, which disappointed me, as I had heard that the only value in a Diphenhydramine trip was the visuals, which are mildly entertaining at best. I did hear some very faint audio hallucinations, and all of them were dull, bassy thuds as if someone was walking around upstairs. I thought for a few times that one of my parents was coming down, but when no one came, I decided that I had experienced those audio hallucinations. How fun are these hallucinations? Not fun at all, pretty boring. The only other notable effect was a mild sense of discomfort, almost like I wasn’t comfortable in my body. I can almost liken the feeling to when I’m coming up on MDMA, but before the euphoric feelings hit. It’s just a really distinct “chemical” feel in my body, and it doesn’t feel good, but it’s only a little bit irritating, nothing to freak out about and easily ignored.
At 1:30 I decided to head up to bed. My god awful stairs make such a huge racket when you walk up them that it undoubtedly woke up my dad. He came into my room in probably more of a delirium than me, and assumed that I had just gotten home, and in his fatigue, started to get mad at me for getting home an hour and a half late. For some reason this pissed me off, far more than usual, and I believe it was the drug. I snapped back at him, telling him that I’d been home since midnight, and I kept wanting to say something like “Haven’t you ever heard of a TV?! DUH I’ve been home!” I just felt so pissed off at him. Right after this encounter I fell asleep. After effects in the morning include increased alertness, a general feeling of being “refreshed”, and a general positive mood lift. I believe that Diphenhydramine is almost relieving with its after-effects. They feel so great in the morning.
TRIP THREE: 10:20 PM
Dose:
+0:00 – 250mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
+0:05 – 150mg Diphenhydramine (oral)
Estimated tolerance level: High
I found myself sitting in my car that night gazing at my bottle of DPH pills and deciding whether to dose. The night before I had made a resolution to wait 4 days for the tolerance to drop before I dosed again. Unfortunately I’m a dumbass and dropped 250mg, only to wait 5 minutes at which point I decided to drop another 150mg, bringing my grand total to 400mg. As I was getting out of my car, my friend T from across the street drives up and he starts talking to me. I ended up hanging out over at his house across the street until about 11:45. We just tried making some music with his electronic DAW, ate some food, and messed around with his cats and dogs. By the time I left, I was feeling the exact same body buzz, but much milder and without that “chemical” feeling I described earlier that makes me want to get out of my body. It was just a floating, drunken state, but I could perform and act completely normal, as my friend T had no idea I was under the influence of anything at any time.
A note about the tolerance: my tolerance has gone up extremely fast over these 3 days, no wonder that its label use is for “occasional” sleeplessness. I bet that if I took 400mg tonight (which I’m NOT gonna do), that I would hardly even feel anything at all, not even a mild sedation.
Overall, I’d say that Diphenhydramine is just plain old boring. The buzz was nothing to brag about, no euphoria to speak of. I do plan on taking 400mg in 4 days after my tolerance has gone down a bit. Maybe that might be a little much, but I just want to see visuals so bad, as I have never hallucinated with any drug, and I wanna see something crazy, even if that means opening Pandora’s Box never to return. I want to experience that scopolamine delirium.
WARNING: The 3rd day, I took 400mg with barely any effects at all. Don't read that and assume that because you're 200 lbs, you can take 400mg and be just fine like I was. I had built a tolerance and used 550mg in the 48 hours prior. When I take 400mg in 4 days, I'm expecting it to be MUCH stronger.
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