Cocaine Dimethocaine

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^Someone mentioned it turning green. I never smoked any myself --- snorted didnt work. The rest seemed like a bad idea

I would be surprised if someone went to the trouble of producing a homologue when dimethocaine is commercially available.

The trip report sounds exactly like dimethocaine. Did you have instumental data or was it simply packaged with the name you mention?

They got both on a menu at a 'reputable' site (Which idk what means anymore so your theory is not out) but they do have both on the menu -- which is interesting

 

[4DQSAR]

^It does jack shit snorted --- hell I even tried mixing it up with 4-fma for a "Coke like" experience --- not even close. Ended up giving many grams of both to umm a garbage disposal we shall say ...

Than reading that IV it gives you a 5 minute bell ringer. Damn it "Hey garbage disposal you still have that by any chance -- yea yea I know its been like 10 years but ?? " lol

I find it tough to believe though really -- the stuff was garbage nasally -- I woulda preferred the same amnt of novacaine tbh lol

Sorry, are you stating that you actually tasted clofenciclan?

It is entirely possible that clofenciclan only demonstrates dopamine-releasing activity when administered with thiopropazate although the patents suggest it produced stimulation in animal models in the absence of any other agent. BUT as I said, I lack the technical German to really follow the fine detail.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

ill have to google that -- if you mean dimethocaine or 4-fma than yes. They were both basically throwaways in my book. ( But so is meth so ? )

oh is dp-DMC clofenciclan? -- if so no I have not. If im riskin an order it aint gunna be an analgesic!

Dimethocaine gave analgesia and a slight heart elevation. 4-fma I am just not a stim guy --- I figured 1/3 coke "Prolly still better than the streets" -- I was wrong lol

I googled that chem and I am still not sure lol

Clofenciclan (chlorphencyclan) and 4-FMA (4-fluoromethamphetamine) are distinct stimulant substances with different origins. Clofenciclan is a 1950s-developed dopamine-releasing agent, while 4-FMA is a designer amphetamine derivative that acts as a stimulant with reported euphoric and empathogenic effects, commonly found in, or closely related to, "party pills

 

[4DQSAR]

Back then, I just used Chemoffice to perform minimum-energy conformation calculations and overlaid clofenciclan and dimethocaine. That done, just swapped the para amine of the latter with the para chloro of the former.

Thing is the cyclohexane moiety and the former and the dimethyl moiety of the former both do the same things. They make one carbon in the chain non-rotatable thus provide the same rigid 120° bond-angle (the -C-O bonds being 109.5°).

It was just a quick idea. If nothing else, I have an unrivalled number of FAILED candidates...