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Dimethocaine

I would have stronger effects from 30mg of methylphenidate too, but I can get really high on that. Or I could, anyway.

Still, 150mg is not bad at all. At least with this, if you're a jackass and don't measure, you're unlikely to die.
 
no not remotely, look at the structure. There's nothing remotely similar scheduled.
 
Blew 150mgs in the first two lines, then two more 50 mg bumps over 30 minutes. This stuff feels alot like cocaine, but definately missing something. Total amount consumed was 250mgs. Anyone know what the comedown is like? I won't know until an hour later.

Also anyone consider banging this stuff? I know its a bad idea, having banged cocaine before before, I am curious, but I don't want to be the first person to be banging a RC. If anyone goes that route, what dosage is required?

I had a gram, split with a friend. He told me it also feels close to coke, but not quite. He also said, considering its 98+% pure, he needs less than acual coke.

-PLUR
 
I spread a gram over probably 5 or 6 sessions and never had a problem with comedown. It's pretty damn similar to cocaine, but neither is coke that mindblowing or great, either.
 
I wonder what dimethocaine's affinity is for the SERT.....

Methylphenidate definately has a high affinity for the DAT, but unlike cocaine has a very low affinity for the SERT. This may explain why methylphenidate is reinforcing, but is not as subjectively enjoyable as cocaine...
 
Hammilton said:
no not remotely, look at the structure. There's nothing remotely similar scheduled.
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its been a while since i've read them, but i'm pretty sure the US drug analogue laws were intentionally written so vague that ANYTHING used to get high can be considered an 'analogue' in some way. as long as its not intended for human consumption/use though, its all good.
 
Dimethocaine Report

i had the opportunity to work with dimethocaine last night, given its an analog of cocaine (IMO one of the worst stimulants to ever hit the drug market) i was pretty impressed. in general i love DARIs like MPH and desoxypipradrol, but cocaine and MDPV both have such a skewed comedown:euphoria ratio that i would literally have to be paid in order to touch either of them again.
dimethocaine was a lot more like MPH than cocaine, there was no rush per say but it left me feeling talkative, intellectually stimulated, and euphoric. the desire to re-dose was almost nonexistent, although more so than i would experience with MPH (despite my hopes dimethocaine had a slightly longer - but overall similar duration to cocaine) there was a modest comedown (compared to MPH which has no come down only a feeling of tiredness) but none of the miserable cocaine comedown angst which has led me to avoid the stuff.
the topical anesthetic effect was less pronounced than with cocaine but i would imagine most of the cocaine i have used was cut with lidocaine. i wonder what dimethocaine's oral bioavailability is?

overall a worthwhile chemical but it leaves much to be desired in terms of duration and potency.

also, are topical anesthetics cardiotoxic at any dose or only at higher doses?
 
hamhurricane, how much did you take and how ?
I quite like methylphenidate myself.
 
Nagelfar said:
Speak for yourself ;) did a coke shot the other day for the first time in a while, it is a nice change from tar and still, though I can't afford it any more, coke remains my favorite "euphoria" of all drugs.
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Well, I've never shot it. I have the self restraint to do it occasionally intranasally but I don't have the same confidence with shooting, so Its not for me. I'm sure it would be amazing. I vow to do a speedball if death is immiment.
 
Any IV experience on this? Don't really have a lot and I'd love to shoot it has significant change in BA.
 
the sample I aquired had a pronounced, room filling odour, which I quickly placed as mothballs, i.e napthalene, but I'm assuming it would be more likely 1,4-dichlorobenzene or something after looking at wikipedia and the IUPAC name of dimethocaine and putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 in the typical laymans manner, which I'm sure will infuriate the informed posters here...

Is this a likely contaminant (I haven't seen the synthesis described), if so should I be wary of consuming any more of the sample? Or is this just a normal odour for dimethocaine?

I found 40mg snorted in small lines over the space of 10 mins or so was very pleasant and had a good action on my mood for over an hour, but occasional tingling sensations in my fingers and oddly enough earlobes, which I would associate with peripheral vasoconstriction, make me very wary about using larger doses. The suggestions of doses around the 300mg mentioned above sound risky?!
 
Ceres said:
the sample I aquired had a pronounced, room filling odour, which I quickly placed as mothballs, i.e napthalene, but I'm assuming it would be more likely 1,4-dichlorobenzene or something after looking at wikipedia and the IUPAC name of dimethocaine and putting 2 and 2 together to get 5 in the typical laymans manner, which I'm sure will infuriate the informed posters here...

Is this a likely contaminant (I haven't seen the synthesis described), if so should I be wary of consuming any more of the sample? Or is this just a normal odour for dimethocaine?

I found 40mg snorted in small lines over the space of 10 mins or so was very pleasant and had a good action on my mood for over an hour, but occasional tingling sensations in my fingers and oddly enough earlobes, which I would associate with peripheral vasoconstriction, make me very wary about using larger doses. The suggestions of doses around the 300mg mentioned above sound risky?!
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does it smell like coke?
 
introverted said:
does it smell like coke?
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My sample smells like mothballs, and is a fine greyish white crystalline powder, it's not like cocaine in any respect other than it's subjective effects on my mood. I like it, but for me it's expensive and nothing more than a one off novelty taster for the sake of the experience and satisfying my curiosity.
 
This guy says he shot it.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91881
Seems like a bad idea.
As to smells, I can smell coke when people have it on them, I am very sensitive to the smell. I detected no coke smell in the bag, but also definitely no moth balls either. Also it far from fills a room. Ask for another shipment from your supplier. Also mine was fine powder pure white- greyish powder sounds like MDPx.

As far as results- split about 200 mg into lines and did about 20 minutes apart over an hour or so. The drips were slightly numbing and tasted more like coke than the product had smelled.
Like weak coke, but actually seems easier on the heart. MUCH less euphoria. I am ampy. I am warm.
As far as law- coke is schedule 2 so the analogue act applies here. There seems to be some debate if it is a true analogue, but the act says "substantially similar" not "a chemical analogue" so my guess is it applies here, it's substantially similar.
 
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You're ignorant.

(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), the term controlled substance analogue means a substance -
(i) the chemical structure of which is substantially similar to the chemical structure of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
(ii) which has a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II; or
(iii) with respect to a particular person, which such person represents or intends to have a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II.
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Court has ruled that an analogue must be i and ii, not either or.

Also a ruling saying that iii can't stand on it's own or it becomes a counterfeit drug act, but that doesn't seem important here.

As far as law- coke is schedule 2 so the analogue act applies here. There seems to be some debate if it is a true analogue, but the act says "substantially similar" not "a chemical analogue" so my guess is it applies here, it's substantially similar.
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This is why you're an idiot.

i - produces a much weaker effect, but this might still be considered substantially similar.
ii - cocaine and dimethocaine do not have substantially similar structures. If you find them to be substantially similar, you should start a strong stack of smart drugs. selegiline + modafinil + piracetam + vincopectine + hydergine + methamphetamine

that should take care of our problem.
 
I didn't mean chemically similar. Although a lot of posts here say the 3d molecule is very similar, I'm no chemist though.
Also, no need to call names.
I was under the impression that the two drugs had to be substantially similar in action. Like - here, buy this from me, it's like doing coke. Bang you violated the act.
Am I wrong? I'm no lawyer.
Lastly, the analogue act pretty much seems to apply to ANYTHING you sell on the grounds that it gets you high. What's similar really mean?
By the way notice it says i ii OR iii. So if you just do iii (i.e. take this, it works like coke) than I think they got you.
In my opinion it's best to treat them ALL like the act applies. Better safe than sorry.
 
Mentat23 said:
I didn't mean chemically similar. Although a lot of posts here say the 3d molecule is very similar, I'm no chemist though.
Also, no need to call names.
I was under the impression that the two drugs had to be substantially similar in action. Like - here, buy this from me, it's like doing coke. Bang you violated the act.
Am I wrong? I'm no lawyer.
Lastly, the analogue act pretty much seems to apply to ANYTHING you sell on the grounds that it gets you high. What's similar really mean?
By the way notice it says i ii OR iii. So if you just do iii (i.e. take this, it works like coke) than I think they got you.
In my opinion it's best to treat them ALL like the act applies. Better safe than sorry.
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I'm not going to get into the finer details of the law, but in general, anything that is sold as an illegal drug or as a replacement for it can get you in trouble even if it doesn't behave similarly or have a related structure.
 
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