Dihydrocodeine extraction from cough syrup

[Fvckptc]

Hey guys,
This is my first post.
I’ve been coming to this site since 2008 and never registered so it’s nice to be here.

I’ll keep it concise.
Im going to have to come off methadone 160mg cold turkey in 4 weeks. I am currently saving up as much as I can to help with the hell im facing.
I have come off 125mg cold before and Was sick for a month and refuse to be unprepared this time.

I have access to rikodeine cough syrup, dihydrocodeine-sorbitol.
There was a thread I found where somebody posted a tek to extract morphine from syrup and said it should work however another user said it may vary slightly and to pm for info but I don’t think they’re active anymore.

Does anybody have knowledge to help me with doing this as drinking sorbitol filled syrup and shitting 40x a day on top of methadone withdrawals doesn’t appeal to me.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Mr. Gods own Medicine]

Hey guys,
This is my first post.
I’ve been coming to this site since 2008 and never registered so it’s nice to be here.

I’ll keep it concise.
Im going to have to come off methadone 160mg cold turkey in 4 weeks. I am currently saving up as much as I can to help with the hell im facing.
I have come off 125mg cold before and Was sick for a month and refuse to be unprepared this time.

I have access to rikodeine cough syrup, dihydrocodeine-sorbitol.
There was a thread I found where somebody posted a tek to extract morphine from syrup and said it should work however another user said it may vary slightly and to pm for info but I don’t think they’re active anymore.

Does anybody have knowledge to help me with doing this as drinking sorbitol filled syrup and shitting 40x a day on top of methadone withdrawals doesn’t appeal to me.

Thanks in advance.

have you learned how to extract it "easily" yet?
did you "try" that "extract morphine from syrup" method , and did it work?
what have you tried so far?
did you private message that other person?
what I have learned is....
The amount of sorbitol in a whole bottle won't kill you, but you will have chronic diarrhea and farting nonstop, for 2 days after drinking a 200ml bottle worth.and be dehydrated, so drinking a lot of water or something is required it
* taking diarrhea medication along with rickodine will not prevent the diarrhea.
* if you drink a bottle of it , NOT eating any solid food (drink only liquids) for the whole day is required to prevent constant diarrhea.

 

[Keif' Richards]

My understanding is that this sort of thing is not "easy" in almost all cases. One chemical process we discuss a lot (or used to at least) here on BL is the Cold Water Extraction. I'm not gonna spell it out, but it's simple enough for anybody to be able to do it. It's two steps and involves no solvents aside from water.

When you start talking about separating different ingredients from a viscous solution, it gets complicated. This is a shot in the dark man. I don't have a lot of chemistry knowledge. I feel like your most realistic action would be to separate the ingredients in their entirety from the solution. Once you get the ingredients out, you would need to go step by step in isolating and removing the constituents.

You would probably need a good understanding of some basic chemistry concepts to start something like this. I'm pretty interested in this stuff as a layperson and I have no idea how to begin something like this.

 

[Mr. Gods own Medicine]

My understanding is that this sort of thing is not "easy" in almost all cases. One chemical process we discuss a lot (or used to at least) here on BL is the Cold Water Extraction. I'm not gonna spell it out, but it's simple enough for anybody to be able to do it. It's two steps and involves no solvents aside from water.

When you start talking about separating different ingredients from a viscous solution, it gets complicated. This is a shot in the dark man. I don't have a lot of chemistry knowledge. I feel like your most realistic action would be to separate the ingredients in their entirety from the solution. Once you get the ingredients out, you would need to go step by step in isolating and removing the constituents.

You would probably need a good understanding of some basic chemistry concepts to start something like this. I'm pretty interested in this stuff as a layperson and I have no idea how to begin something like this.

rikodeine ingredients:
Each 10 mL of Rikodeine Oral Liquid contains dihydrocodeine tartrate 19 mg, and sorbitol 4.4 g. It also contains sucrose, citric acid, methyl hydroxybenzoate, amaranth, strawberry flavour 73858 and water.

(just oral digestion) Separating the sorbitol from the cough syrup is the main concern.
cold water extraction will not remove the dihydrocodeine from the syrup at all .
The extract morphine from syrup" method, seemed "easy" enough, not to difficult.
i have not tried it , but I would like too . have you?
the only method I can think of after reading about it is to buy "sorbitol dehydrogenase enzyme powder"
(which is expensive at peptide websites and hard to find) , then add it to the cough syrup mixture and the dehydrogenase enzyme will convert all the sorbitol into fructose. The fructose will be easily digested without diarrhea, dehydration etc..
but to extract just the dihydrocodeine alone from the rikodeine cough syrup , into a pure/ish powder is what I really want to learn how to do too.
any suggestions? what have you tried?

 

[Keif' Richards]

Okay, apologies @Mr. Gods own Medicine (sweet handle by the way) I was approaching this from the wrong angle. I made the assumption that we were dealing with a multi-active-ingredient tincture here like the common Promethazine/Codeine (and sometimes Paracetamol) stuff. Just the fact that you're only trying to separate basically a single ingredient I imagine makes this a lot more realistic.

My advice to you would be to seek out people with more knowledge of organic chemistry. I am sure there are multiple BL'ers who would know how to do this sort of thing. A lot of these guys are proud of their knowledge. They will be more inclined to help a person they feel has an honest desire to learn. Yes, you're trying to separate Opiates from cough syrup right now, but perhaps that knowledge could be passed on to the next person in a useful way? If you do enough digging, you could find someone to explain this to you probably by the end of the day if you don't already figure it out yourself.

I consider the idea of buying the enzymes to be a little unrealistic. It turns your whole mission into something too complicated to be practically viable.

The thing with chemistry also, is that you don't generally just learn how to do a super-specific thing. To do that specific thing, it generally entails learning the foundations of what lead up to that specific thing. You are better off learning the hows, the whys and everything leading up to it. However, I don't think what we're describing here is rocket science either.

Do some searching and if you can't figure it out I can circle back and help you look.

 

[Mr. Gods own Medicine]

Okay, apologies @Mr. Gods own Medicine (sweet handle by the way) I was approaching this from the wrong angle. I made the assumption that we were dealing with a multi-active-ingredient tincture here like the common Promethazine/Codeine (and sometimes Paracetamol) stuff. Just the fact that you're only trying to separate basically a single ingredient I imagine makes this a lot more realistic.

My advice to you would be to seek out people with more knowledge of organic chemistry. I am sure there are multiple BL'ers who would know how to do this sort of thing. A lot of these guys are proud of their knowledge. They will be more inclined to help a person they feel has an honest desire to learn. Yes, you're trying to separate Opiates from cough syrup right now, but perhaps that knowledge could be passed on to the next person in a useful way? If you do enough digging, you could find someone to explain this to you probably by the end of the day if you don't already figure it out yourself.

I consider the idea of buying the enzymes to be a little unrealistic. It turns your whole mission into something too complicated to be practically viable.

The thing with chemistry also, is that you don't generally just learn how to do a super-specific thing. To do that specific thing, it generally entails learning the foundations of what lead up to that specific thing. You are better off learning the hows, the whys and everything leading up to it. However, I don't think what we're describing here is rocket science either.

Do some searching and if you can't figure it out I can circle back and help you look.

very true.
thanks for the help.
true, using the enzyme might work, but it is unrealistic, and not practical, it costs $300-$500 for a small amount, and unless I have 20 bottles of rikodeine ($25each) to test it on, then it isn't worth the hassle or cost in the end. Unless it is just an experiment an iI find a supplier that sells the enzyme for cheap in bulk kg amounts. But I have not read anywhere of anyone using it for a similar reason, let alone directions of how much does it convert, and how much powder enzyme to add per gram of sorbitol / MLS of liquid. it would be a lot of experiments and a lot of explosive diarrhea trips to the toilet if it does not convert properly.
i will research better methods of extraction like you said.
thanks mate....

 

[Survival0200]

Some people can stomach more sorbitol than others. I used to consume 100 mL of this codeine syrup that had 350 mg/mL sorbitol without problems.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Can you just get paracetamol/codeine tablets instead of syrup? Way easier to extract