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Heroin Difficulty IV'ing

This is a bad tip. He can hardly hit a vein and you tell him not to use a torniquette (or anything that does its job)? Hot shower before the shot... Yeah, it definitely helps but probably only for people who just started using opioids and aren't addicted to heroin/morphine/6-ketones etc. that eventually act so short that you have to shoot up a few times a day. I don't think there's a time for hot shower when your shit is water already. :P

I'm not saying NOT to use a tourniquet. I'm saying it's better to learn to do it without one, and I think ultimately is easier in the end. My point was if you're going to use a tourniquet make sure that you loosen it before injecting, because not doing so can result in some nasty stuff, cause thats how I used to shoot when I had this problem.

The only real solution is practice. I mentioned the vacuum tip where once the syring is in your arm or wherever you draw back even if your not in the vein, and then you push forward or pull back and once your in the blood will flow up and you can just shoot. I learned that on this site and I think it's the most useful technique, I can pretty much hit any vein on my body, though I usually stick to my arms because I've only fucked up one or two veins.
 
Yea I'm using east coast powder. I'm having this problem where my throat feels like it's closing up and I'm getting little to no euphoria. Probably the cut right?
 
No one can know if your drugs are causing an adverse reaction unless you had it anylized by a lab. Or at the very least until you are a heroin expert and can shoot properly and know what its supposed to feel like... Which won't happen until you plug first.

Hey Z-NEG, I also don't use a tourniquet AND my veins are really hard to find! The first few times I tried tying off it was such a pain in the ass I figured I'd be better off learning to IV without it.

And the "stick it in a tiny bit then pull back then push in as long as you're pretty sure you're over a vein" is the single best trick on the planet. I figured it out myself a few months ago and started posting it on here everywhere. I'm sure I didnt invent it, but prior to me discovering it I had never seen it mention on Bluelight, and I did A LOT of reading before I started to IV.

In my arms, you literally cannot see a single vein. However, a nurse of all people showed me how to find them by sense of touch - if you start tapping around on your arm where you think a vein might be (it does help to at least make a fist) if the vein is close to the surface you can feel it sort of spring back to your touch, they have a slightly spongey feel and you can def tell something is there under the skin.

Once I located the vein, the trick was always trying to guess how deep it was, but the "create a vacuum then push in" technique made this very easy. After a few days/weeks of successful hits, for better or worse the (hopefully) light track marks left over from previous injections will provide a road map for years to come, making it even easier.

Most people go for crook of the inside elbow, but my best luck is with the vein that starts on the inside of the wrist near the base of the thumb and travels up the inside of the forearm, about halfway to the elbow. In the wrist area where the skin in thinner and there is less body fat it's much easier to find the vein, and from there it travels in pretty much a straight line up the arm (if anyone looks at the vein chart in the first post you'll see it).

That vein gives me about six inches of length to play with, which is essential so I don't have to keep going back to the same spot. For the most part, it IS ok to use the same vein frequently, as long as you're not hitting it in exactly the same spot, but I'd still try to give it at least 24 hours before you go back (that's what I do and my veins are fine).

Also, for many people the tops of the hands are a great place to mine for veins, since generally they are much easier to find and there are at least a few good ones all next to each other. I have a good 3 or 4 places on each hand i can hit and I register on the first go more often than with my arms.

Also, the skin on your hand is tighter; this means you may need to use a little extra force when sliding the needle in, but the upside to this is the skin holds the needle in place much better than the arms do - this means that you're less likely to slip out of the vein while you're injecting, something that happens to everyone now and then.

Having an injection spot that holds the needle more tightly is essential for times when you may be in withdrawals and your hands aren't as steady as you'd like. Even light withdrawals make my hands tremble a bit, so having the needle anchored in a spot of tight skin can really make a difference.

Also, from my point of view, you SHOULD be experiencing at least light withdrawals every time you shoot, since that's your signal that the drugs have worn off and it's time to redose. And i don't know about H, but with dilaudid, the worse your withdrawals are the better the rush is, so I try to NEVER use unless my body is telling me "it's time."

Lucky for me that's usually 3 or 4 times a day :-)

I mean seriously, isn't it a waste of drugs to shoot up if your last shot is still affecting you?

Fuck, I just wrote out a ton of good advice for new IV users and I just realized it's not in the megathread, it's in this crybaby's little personal thread.

Hey mods, time for a merge!
 
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Crybaby, huh? You want me to plug it so bad why don't you come and do it for me. Anyway I used pliers to take the needle off the syringe but am wondering if I can filter it at all without the needle. Do i use mix it with a little water and stir it up and draw? How much to use, the same one would for a IM or snorting. I'm just waiting to take a shit.

I know what heroin is supposed to feel like I have been doing it for a while just IMing. I also was doing OC 80's 2-3 a day for over a year. I'm just thinking the adverse effects are just in my mind. I'm bugging out about my throat feeling tight yet I'm even close to nodding out.
 
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@ Znegative that's what I was thinking. I took some before and it definitely helped. I guess my body know's whats good and what's not.
 
Use the veins on your weak hand. They are the easiest to hit. Close your fist half way, and hit the vein next to the pinky, between the knuckles. Works for me.
 
Your veins are probably rollers. Which means they move around a lot. Huge pain in the ass! Try tying off first with a truncate and running your desired injection site under hot water. It makes the veins come to the surface (hitting In the shower Works wonders). Do some jumping jacks to get the blood flowing. I heard if u take an aspirin it helps? Also if u smoke cigs wait until after u fix because it tends to constrict the blood flow.
 
I suggested you look up previous posts about plugging if you want to know how to do it properly, I'm not going to retype the instruction yet again for the guy who can't be bothered with the megathread.

Do a thread title search for plugging, maybe use my name under the username part of the advanced search options, I've made a lot of posts on the subject.

You really need to use the search engine and do some research - you seem to be lazy and want everyone to hold your hand and personally guide you through the process of IV or anything else.

Everything you've been asking has been covered many times before, both in discussion groups and in various IV FAQs around the net.

Wanting to enter the world of iv drugs and being too lazy to learn about proper technique and safety is a recipie for disaster. People who just want the high without doing the work end up dead.

Just think about what you are doing to yourself. Its not a game, it's damn serious business - the ultimate high carries with it the ultimate risk; I know that sounds melodramatic but it's true.
 
I picked up the wrong syringes by accident. I usually get 1mL 31G syringes with a half inch tip. They only had 1/2 ml 31G and he told me they would be fine, but the needle is way to small at 8mm. At the expense of bruising many veins I have found a few good ones, and have been going to town all day. I kinda bugged out just now because I pulled it out after I i got the wrong spot and and a little blood trickled out. There is no way I hit an artery with such a small needle right? Also, the blood was a little lighter than usual.


The thing in question is where the track mark all the way on the left is. From what I see in diagrams there is a vein there and I'm very sure it was green under my skin, but now I'm kind of out of it and could use some clarification.

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@ John Burrow's.

I appreciate your insight but not your snotty remarks. Since I have no one in person to show me the proper technique I am requesting the help of bluelight members. I have made it clear that I am using a personal thread because I feel that not all my questions are applicable to the mega IV thread. In the past I have made specific threads about IV'ing and the mods merged them into the mega thread. Also, I'll admit I am asking for extra attention because like you said yourself this is a joke and not a game. If you can't assess from just reading my posts I am a paranoid person who assumes the worst will always happen.

I'm not lazy about finding information and improving my IV technique. For the last few days I have done nothing besides Google the random questions I have and found some answers. The thing is a lot of my questions are specific to my situation. Sure, others have had similar questions and experiences but I just wan't to make sure.

About the plugging, I am interested in it but am still waiting on that shit. It has nothing to do with sticking a little syringe up my butt but I am little nervous and not sure how much to use. (Funny that I am doing IV which is much more dangerous epescially if your a noob like me.)

The thing is IT IS SO ADDICTING ONCE YOU HIT THAT VEIN. If you think opiates in general are addicting, IV dope is 10X. It's hard to stop myself from attempting it and while I sometimes have to re insert the syringe I am very clean.

I just wanted to thank everyone for helping me.
 
I'm gonna stop IV'ing and give me veins time to heal, some of the spots where I injected feel like they have been scarred like extra skin on top. Also I guess I missed on my left arm. I don't see an abscess but it is painful to touch. Actually both arms are kind of soar, is this normal for my first time. I have been injecting a lot for the last two days. Could I have done any serious damage if this is only my first time? I always make sure everything is sterile.

I have a z pack of Azithromycin 5 day's worth of doses. Should I wait to see if they feel better before I take the anti biotics or should I take them right away? If I take the antiobiotics can I still continue to use (snorting)? My arm is feeling kind of numb and tingly now.

Edit: I just took them, its two the first day. I also took 1000mg of vitamin C. Stupid question but is there any adverse affects of using while on them, do they not work as well? Could it fuck up the high?
 
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Unless youre cooking it for 10 minutes or more, heating it isn't killing any bacteria, it's just adding more cut into your shot.

Georgie that's just not right mate! Read Heroin helper!
Sure hope you've solved your problem OP. It's a damn shame that this is such a tricky
way to get high when your hell-bent on getting there but it is really the only way to use the stuff imo. Plugging never worked for me buddy and it's too expensive to waste!
If you are damaging your self (and it sounds like you are) then maybe you need to find another form of relaxation because it really isn't that difficult and there are even step by step instructions on iv that a simple google will find.
Basically though, find a clean sink in a private space and take the time to do it properly.
You know "Don't Rush to get the Rush"
Hari Om
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They only had 1/2 ml 31G and he told me they would be fine, but the needle is way to small at 8mm. At the expense of bruising many veins I have found a few good ones, and have been going to town all day. I kinda bugged out just now because I pulled it out after I i got the wrong spot and and a little blood trickled out. There is no way I hit an artery with such a small needle right? Also, the blood was a little lighter than usual.

8mm is not too short to use for IV use. I only use the short tip 31G's.

You could hit an artery with a short tip but I have never done so. Remember, arteries have a pulse and veins do not; so don't inject into anything that has a pulse.

The blood that comes out of an artery will not be dark red like blood that comes out of a vein.
 
Thanks for your response Captain. In your opinion from my pictures above your post does it look like anything serious? Or am I just paranoid.
 
@TheManWithNoName- I really think that when you do go to IV you need to relax and take your time. On this site there is a thread for the proper IV'ing teqnique. Type it in the search box. And theres diagrams as well.
From the pics I dont feel like its anything serious. Use a little neosporin. I have had big like abses things at the injection site from using the same injection site too many times bc it was just a good vein and I would always register in the vein at first attempt. So when this would happen I used neosporin and it healed it very quickly.(like 24 hours)
Ive been IV'ing for 7 years now. on and off. All of this info wasnt available to me when I started. I learned from other IV users and trial & error. I started off using the veins in my hands bc you can see the veins and hit them pretty eaisily. I also used to tie off. Now I use the veins in the crook of my arm and I no longer tie off. One thing I have learned and would be a good tip for you is to make sure you are well hydrated! It makes the veins more plump and easier to find & hit. I sometimes fish for the vein, prob not a good idea at all and I would not suggest doing it. (im sure someone is gonna rip on me for it, but whatever). I used to think I had shitty veins but that wasnt the case. The case was I wasnt doing it the right way.
I think its cool that your asking alot of questions and you should. Theres no such thing as a dumb question. This is exactly what this site is for. I hope what I wrote is a little bit of help for you. If I read anything else by you and know the answer or a way to help I will let you know. Any time I need to know anything I seach around this site bc it always has exactly what im looking for. I never post anything bc 9 times out of 10 someone already posted what im looking for. I know I wrote alot so Im gonna shut up now. Good luck!
 
i just have a tip to add, since u seem to have trouble finding the best way 2 hold ur rig. it may not work 4 u, but i hold mine inside my fist with my thumb pointing up. i use my thumb 2 register and depress the syringe. it gives me great control. iam female tho and likely have smaller hands. any guys use this technique?
 
i just have a tip to add, since u seem to have trouble finding the best way 2 hold ur rig. it may not work 4 u, but i hold mine inside my fist with my thumb pointing up. i use my thumb 2 register and depress the syringe. it gives me great control. iam female tho and likely have smaller hands. any guys use this technique?

I use my second and third fingers (ring and middle fingers, colloquially) to register and plunge. My thumb and last two fingers are holding onto the barrel.
 
I recently stopped IM H because members of this forum have made it very clear that it can cause some serious side effects. Not to mention I can see and feel it myself with my leg bruised and swollen. I tried to snort it but whenever I do I fell as my throat is closing up slightly and it ruins the euphoria for me, it may be some cut I might have an allergy too, as this does not happen when I snort say coke or the old oxy's. I have recently started to IV. In the past I have hit the vein maybe 1/3 of the times, usually resulting in an abscess ranging in size. But when I did I felt my heart race then all of a sudden I felt great! I just hit it to times in a row but still I have a very very small abscess on each vein with redness in the area, about the size of a pinky nail and an 1/8 of an inch high. I cook it, let it cool down to let the cuts separate, filter it with cotton, clean the needle with an alcohol swab and wipe down my arm as well. Am I doing something wrong? I have very little experience so i fiddle around with it in my vein, it moves around till I can get it to draw back to see blood then I hit it home.

I know this could have been placed in the IV mega thread but I have concluded people are more inclined to check new threads. Thank you in advance.



Are you tieing off? Which veins are you using? Some peoples veins arent easily reachable so tieing off definitely helps (just remember to loosen the tournaquet once you hit the vein)

I recommend the middle of the arm (make sure when you slide the needle in, the angled surface is facing upwards to the ceiling)

And you mentioned using alcohol to clean your syringes? Are you using a new one everytime? Dulled syringes can make hitting a vein a huge painful pain in the ass.

Also, if you do IV (and i know we're talking about H here, so this doesnt apply), try to limit IVing. Switch it up to plugging or smoking every once in awhile. Save the mainline smashes for when you really need to relax lol.
 
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