hey...just wanna clear some things up. i was just droppin those dosage numbers cuz thats what I needed. They were only givin me 2 mg a day cuz thats what I was on/needed. im 99% sure if I didnt respond well they woulda given me more just like anyone else. it wasnt like there was a 2mg/day limit at the place. maybe i would have gotten less leniency there if I was on like 24mg/day but who knows. one of my boys is on 18mg/day and hes gotta see his doctor every month face to face so maybe...
And I didnt mean no offense when I said what I said about the place. no offense at all. not sayin im better or worse than anyone. you got my point tho - i was just saying that i was different than basically all the ppl that my doc was dealin with, so she gave me a lot of leniency. She had her prescription pad stolen on two different occasions by ppl she was treating with bupe, someone broke in to steal AIDS meds (it was a pretty big medical center not just a addiction treatment place), all sorts of shit. So i was just sayin to the Original Poster - if you're a person who really wants to get clean and isn't there acting wild they'll help you with open arms, because you'll be a change of pace from what normally goes down there or any other medical facility in that neighborhood.
I respect your opinion on here and like reading your posts... so I want you to know I'm not tryin to shit on people from the hood or anyone personally whos done time or dirt (whether it be to feed their addiction, family or just cuz they wanted to...) . I got friends from all walks of life - people that have robbed for dope and people that won't even touch aspirin and i love them all the same. Everyone has their own struggles but I've definitely had a pretty easy life compared to a lot of the shit I've seen go down and im extremely thankful for that. im not tryin to shit on anyone because of it tho so sorry if it came off that way...
Also you said you're "more than a 2 time felon" , im curious how badly you were affected by the 3 strikes rule NJ has or if it even effected you at all. Just curious. If you're not tryin to talk about it on here i understand and its all good...
3 strikes applies to violent crimes...it aint some 3 strikes period and u out type of ish. I been convicted of 2 felonies and 1 felony that got reduced to misdemeanor it was my first offense so i went thru the PTI program , i got arrested and charged with a felony but it was a small amount of heroin less than a bundle and it was a high heroin area so they wasnt tryna put me on felony charges for my first offense like that, so even tho i been arrested for 3 felonies i been convicted of 2 and a misdemeanor. the 3 strikes aint gonna apply to somebody who gets popped with drugs , etc...its for assault, rape, etc type situations and it aint a black n white thing, even in those cases in NJ afaik its more open to interpretation than how shit works out in cali for example. anywas nuff said about that, it aint really relevant but i wanted to answer ur question w/out puttin my biz all out there too much.
Anyways I see ur point that it was the dose u needed, that mighta had somethin to do with how often u didnt see the dr becuz i know that u always got to go at the least once a month or ina stretch, every 2 months but many sub dr's will keep u on a once every 2 wk schedule for teh first month or two , also if u aint doing good and testin dirty they will keep on ur ass before u able to move to once a month. it depends on the dr, and their tolerance, the one i was goin to the first time I really hated and didnt work good with him at all, i straight left from there after a while I couldnt put up with it no more.
The dr was one of them "addiction is a brain disease, u cant control it, u cant drink u cant smoke weed u cant do nothing" type dudes--he refused to put me on nothing but sub, even tho its EXTREMELY common practice to put sub patients on low dose klonopin if they got anxiety which is almost always a rebound effec from kicking. the kpins can REALLY help u when u first get clean, and keep them urges away, that anxious feeling u get when u feel like u just cant handle it no more and the urge to use and be in that self medicating lifestyle gets overwhelming, the kpins are a god send but yet this dr was like "na, u cant take them cuz u addicted to heroin. so u will be addicted to them too and it will make u relapse on dope." 8) Later i found out that OTHER sub patients he was seeing was getting klonopin scripts and that got me real heated...
not only that but at the time i was a student in beauty school and u had to be there by 9am every day you could have 4 "lates" a month which meant u had to be in before 10am if you could not make it by 9. i had my appt's every 2 wks and would make my apts at this dr (which was like 10 min at most frmo my school) for 9am so that i could make it to school by 10 and still get let in. I would always end up waiting mad late and gettin seen by like 11 or 11 30 even tho i was the first patient in and only needed 5 minutes to get my script wrote out--he would see people that got there after me and signed in after me, and needed whole 30 minute appointments , cuz he was also a old-people doctor. So I'd be the first one in, get there on time and then wait for all these old mutha fuckas with coughs and arthritis and shit to get seen when they got there 45 minutes after i did, and finally i was like yo, this is bullshit, yall keep making me wait for no damn good reason and Im missing entire days of school becuz after 10 i cant go in and i lose the entire day worth of hours and have to make them up. I def. beleive they was makin me wait becuz i was a junkie, sub patient and so i could deserve to wait, or some shit. I rreally cant see the logic behind scheduling someone for a 9am apt and knowing all they need is less than 5 mintes of the dr's time, and makin them go in after the people who got scheduled for a 9 45 apt, you feel me?
and it was a regular thing to do, it was everrrrytime....so i bounced from there, i couldnt take it...they did a urine test everytime and it was a real strict thing, if i tested positive for THC he said i would get kicked out, that i had to quit everything if i wanted to be "devoted" to my treatment and all that bull...I kept smokin of course, i really didnt give a fuck, becuz honestly out of all things a blunt a day REALLY helped me get clean more than anything, i still believe that smokin bud is one of the absolute best things u can do when u tryna get ur head on straight and get off the dope, its too bad im on paper now and cant smoke til i get off probation, but anyways....
Just pointingg out that its possible to have a real bad experience at a sub dr, they aint all equal and some can be real dicks.
For example like the OP was saying how his dr was tryna tell him he had to do this that and the third--the original one i went to who i been talkin about here, also insisted that i get some kind of drug counseling and go to NA aswell--dont even get me started on NA, and i understand the idea of not just treatin the physical symptoms of WD but also the mental causes, but really it aint none of his biz wat i did , u feel me? If you get a dr that is tryna tell u to do all this shit, u need to move on and find another one--that treatment is up to u, its up to u wat u do , if u go to counseling, NA, if u just take the sub and live your life, or w/ever, its on you to decide your plan and not the dr so you got enough options that you can definatly afford to look for a better one who aint gonna be all up in your shit like that tryna make ur decisions for you and dictate to u wat the best thing is for u. cuz the truth is addiction dont work the same for everyone and the treatment that work for one person mabye aint best for another, it aint some one size fits all shit and there aint no absolutes, some people can drink all the alcohol and smoke all the weed they want without havin no problems with stayin off the dope, other people will go wild if you give them any substance at all, some can control their weed but not their liquor, some get all fucked up on the xanax and so on, so really aint no rule that you "can" or "cant" take a certain drug if you are a addict of another drug, and some sub dr's will try to tell you that there is--if u hear that, move on to the next, real talk.
Anyways, i kinda got real off topic with that but i wanted to post some warning signs of a shitty sub dr for people who is just getting into this becuz u really need to be able to recognize when u dealing with a ignorant douchebag who aint interested in really helping you and is more interested in pushin their ideas of "recovery" onto everybody in the same exact way.
and no hard feelings yo i get ur point that u was saying just wanted to put that out there a different point of view u feel me...Anyways....the sub dr i was at before i switched to methadone was real cool, never gave me piss tests, really didnt give a shit wat i did as long as i stayed off the dope and even then i would get high sometimes and he was just like....watever....laid back but not just negligent, like not the kind of dr that will just write the script nomatter how bad u fuck up, just understood that sometimes shit happens but as long as u aint blatantly just using in his face, he cut u a break, thats the kin of dr u want to be workin with...its all hit or miss tho sometimes u got to deal with some bad before u find one whose good.
Im more than a 2 time felon, but that dont mean shit about who i am as a person, like im some type of dregs of society, the type of person that u see on the streets outside the free clinics and welfare centers....Cmon man u got to see it as "us" not "them" becuz u never more than a stones throw away from bein on the other side. U dont get to pick and choose-whether u a dope head with a happy family nice house and suburb life style or a ghetto hood rat junkie, u still a dopehead and could still end up that way if u aint lucky or some stroke of fate allows it, so try n quit the "us n them" philosophy yo, we all ur brother and sisters in this shit, u will find that u get along in our world much better that way with some compassion for ur fellow addict 
