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difference between gbl en 1,4??

Timo_Amsterdam

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last week a bought a liter of gbl. Wow, that stuff is strong!! What should the dose be compared to normal g? I also keep reading on this site about 1,4. What is that, is that even stronger?
 
1,4 butanediol is toxic, do not drink that shit. GBL is also bad for your body. It's the best to take ghb.
 
Hoi Timo,
GBL and 1.4 BD needs to be metabolized by the liver and or stomach acid in order to become GHB.
1.4 BD is toxic for the liver, also the 1.4 itselve goes into the bloodstream and has more of an alcohol numbing effect compared to the high of GHB and GBL. Stay away at all cost from 1.4!
GBL is said not to be toxic, but being an industrial solvent you dont want to down a pure cap of this shit as it will irritate your stomach and make you puke, you need to wash it down with lots of fruitjuice or something....
Also I definately feel the GHB gives you a much cleaner high than GBL (maybe the GBL is partly metabolized into intermediate products with psychoactive effects or the peak buildup is less steep i dont know)
Another problem with GBL compared to GHB is that i passed out twice on GBL and not on G because of the time-release effect of GBL.
Depending on mood, energy levels and amount of food in stomach the conversion of GBL into GHB can be very quick or very slow, which cause it to have a lot of inpredictable ways of hitting you in a good or bad way!!!
The times I fucked up the conversion was slow and I downed another dose. Than it hit me all at once! The best is to have GHB, but i know, the GBL is cheap and still can be ordered from the internet, but since you are from Amsterdam and I live near Amsterdam it shouldnt be a problem to (PM me).....
 
Go buy some sodium hydroxide (order from a soapmaking supplier or buy on an auction) and make the GHB according to any of the internet recipes. Its a lot easier on your liver than gbl or 1,4bdo.
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thnkx for the info.
I also have 1/2 litre of ghb at home, i was just wondering what the differences were. I took 2 caps of gbl and both the time i had to puke my brains out. Next time i start with half a cap.
 
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/14b/14b_storage1.shtml
Check this out, that shit ur putting in ur tummy dissolves plastic... I know I wouldnt wanna put that crap in my body.
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well, GBL dissolves plastic too.. it's actually sold (mixed with ethanol) as a superglue remover.
but then, if you look at it from the g-head point of view, the stuff that's already in your stomach (hydrochloric acid) dissolves metal, so...
 
T_A,
did you take 2 caps worth of GBL? thats about 10 ml right? mate, no wonder you're puking, thats about 10 grams worth, or 5 times a heavy dose (for me)...any difficulty breathing?
 
i meant i took 2 caps on 2 different occasions. I don't think i would have survived 2caps at the same time :-)
And i think the caps here in holland are 4ml
 
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