Venting Didn't wanna come back for this, but whatever

Well, these were just some suggestions. The “give em hell child” thing was just my sense of humor. Lol! I don’t want you to give up on trying. Keep fighting whatever this is and try to find a solution you can live with.

Talking things out like this is good. It may give you more perspective. Others have given some good advice and ideas. Plus, we support you and encourage you my friend. There is an answer. Be comforted.

Hopefully the psychiatrist can pinpoint a diagnosis for you and some options. Give it a try.

I still stand behind the meditation. Yes, it takes effort and time to master but it is worth both the effort and time to master this skill.
You can actually repair damage in your body and mind when you get good at it.
I understand completely what you are saying about how hard it would be to try and quiet your mind but it can be done.
Start out with a mantra. A mantra can be any sentence or saying you like and just keep thinking it over and over while you fall asleep every night. Your brain cannot go off on other thoughts while it Is occupied.
For example you could keep thinking “you can do anything, anything you want to.” Over and over again.
Start with that. I think you will be surprised how much even that will help quiet your mind down.

I would recommend some background sounds of the ocean or rain. Something soothing.
Nature heals. Get out in nature too.

Who cares if you are not up to date on music. I love Rock music from the 80’s and beyond! Lol!
listen to what you enjoy. Find those few songs in between that make you feel good and make yourself a playlist.
Don’t give up on music.

Let us know how it goes. I am pulling for you!!
❤️
 
Lol I did get the humour, not everything I write is all serious either. :p I'm not intending to give anyone hell, but it will probably happen regardless, not as much as I'm putting myself through though. I wrote all that down day before yesterday, read it again and wanted to pm you, then realized I couldn't, but didn't want to edit or post more either, I feel like I have enough exposure already. I don't want to keep bumping my topic, yes it does put things into perspective somewhat, but it still feels whiny af. I just don't wanna lie, terrible at it. I do want to try it, because I know it can be incredibly beneficial, but I also know it will frustrate me as well, I know I'll want to give up when I don't see results immediately. Sigh, I hate this part of me, yeah I'm an empath, or hsp, I feel the pain you're going through, to some extent anyways. You get why I said I feel like a pussy and an asshole right? I try to avoid having to deal with it, it's why I never hung out much in tds in all my years on bl, it's how I go through daily life now. Try to ignore your emotions and don't let them control you, it's why people sometimes can assume I'm cold or emotionless, when I'm far from it, I simply have too much of them, ignoring and avoiding have been a defense mechanism, crying is so close to laughter, I always try to stick with the latter instead. But yeah, every post in here makes me tear up, I feel like I don't even deserve the support, other people need it way harder. Thanks for explaining despite me being difficult anyways, I was kinda hoping you'd do that. I'm not intentionally manipulative, honestly, lol.

Is it normal to see and think of different things when you repeat a mantra? Because my mind just keeps working. I still see scenery, still can think of multiple things at once, odd. No I'm absolutely not schizophrenic, the voice in my head is my own, but it's a tangential slur of neverending thoughts popping up. If there ever was such a thing as a mind palace, mine would be incredibly chaotic, I have shit hoarded in every room, always searching and always finding irrelevant stuff. So far my first attempt was a failure, did make me laugh though, I don't even remember the mantra I was using.

Maybe I should've waited for today, I suddenly decided I was gonna trip again yesterday after I dunno, 8 years? Took a low dose dxm, bout 250 mg, drank some alcohol with it. It wasn't enough to make me quit smoking, it did start smelling disgusting already, but the cravings were too big. Why I was so anxious to try it again, no idea, it was great. I kinda feel rejuvenated, if only a little, smoking less too. Need to have anti-histamines on standby next time though, second time ever I started itching on dxm, incredibly annoying. Oh I went out in nature btw, stepped in dogshit, amazing how it got on top of my shoe. Done with nature. All the nature I'm dealing with from now on is extermination, damn spidermites.
 
I put you on my follow list. You should be able to pm me now, if you want to.
Hell child 😃! Lol!

Yes it is normal to see scenery and stuff still while repeating a mantra. It does keep your mind occupied pretty good though.
Keep doing it for awhile. Every night while you try to fall asleep. It is Fine if thoughts or images come up, you don’t need to follow them.
Just keep repeating your mantra. It will start to discipline and to quiet your mind so you can start gaining control.
Soon, you will be able to start clearing out your mind.
You say you have shit hoarded in every room of your mind. Well, it is time to clean house.

When you notice thoughts come up, decide if you want or need to keep those thoughts and if you don’t (most of them you don’t, you need to clean house) then imagine you physically picking up that thought or memory and throwing it out of your mind. Every time it comes up, imagine you physically taking hold of It and throwing it out! Pretty soon, that thought starts coming up less and less until one day, you no longer have those thoughts come up at all. Be vigilant about it. I’m telling you this stuff works.

It has taken me years to become a master in meditation but it has been SO worth the effort! I can instantly take my mind to a place of calm and serenity even during major pain and anxiety. It is priceless.

Don‘t give up on this one! You have to deal with your thoughts while trying to fall asleep anyway.

I know what you mean about hating being so sensitive and feeling other people’s pain. For a very long time, I hated it and I looked at it as a major weakness.
It really is a strength. We are all very connected and it should be this way for everyone. It means you have not lost your divine connection!
It is just about setting some boundaries because others are drawn to your sensitivity. They come to you for help.
You know this, it is why you have tried to shut it down and just remain indifferent. emotionless. Heheh. I tried that one too.
Didn‘t work. The world needs people like us!

I am sorry that you felt my pain. Don’t worry, I’m tough. This is just life. A test. It is short. This won’t last forever. I am managing my situation.
But, thank you for caring that much. Hugs.

Your subject is just as important as anyone else’s. I am glad you posted here. You are not too far gone or in deeper with harder drugs...yet. I do not want to see that happen. Let’s keep that from happening. You are loved and needed and important. You are worthy of love and help. Let others help you right now.

❤️
 
I put you on my follow list. You should be able to pm me now, if you want to.
Hell child 😃! Lol!

Lmao, aptly put, guess I had that coming. =D I'm still getting the hang of the new bl, had no idea that was even possible. I'm not good with change, I feel like we need some customized skins that make bl look like any period you want to. I miss that all white dull grey with the blue purple logo from 15 years ago. Or what if you're really oldschool and need that green back in your life? Nostalgia, when the internet was still interesting, when life was, lol.

I'm dreading tomorrow. Tried not smoking for 5 hours today, made me angry. Have to endure this with some guy yapping at me, I'm not sure if I can. Don't feel like doing anything, appear to be out of the major depressive episode, back to my regular dysthymic self. Oh existential nihilism, how I embrace you, fuck off world.

I'll stop blogposting now. Thanks everyone. <3 I might bump this sometime soon, might not, probably not.
 
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Nope. Fuck this. They asked me not to smoke. I did. I haven't slept, I am extremely pissed. First thing he asks is how I'm doing, I tell him I'm pissed, he asks why, imagine my surprise. And here I thought I was dealing with a rehab facility. I said I'm pissed off at myself, at that girl this is all about, because I'm withdrawing, because the doctor sent me, because I want to go through the psychiatry route first. But according to him that's not the right way, according to him I'm confused, according to him, I was literally dying in front of his eyes.

I walked out. Confused my ass, I'm well aware of my situation, moreso than this asshat will ever have the pleasure of knowing. If there's anyone who was dying there, it was him if I had stayed any longer.

I am smoking a fat joint right now and am gonna check myself into the fucking nuthouse. I am so incredibly done with everything.

THE JERKSTORE CALLED AND THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF YOU. That's what I should've said, shit. :unsure:

I mean dying, REALLY? What a great motivational speech, how did this guy ever become a counselor? I'm not even attempting another facility again, I have more chance at quitting on my own than I will ever have there. I'm so angry, I knew this was going to happen. These are not the people I want to have around me, I'm not even sure if I want to have anyone around me at this point. Solitary confinement sounds like a treat after this, lock me up.
 
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Learn how to meditate.
meditation has been the number one thing that helps me.

No way could I deal with the 12 step thing either.

You are very, very sensitive. Empath. You have trouble even looking someone in the eye. You know it is the window to the soul.
Just like I have always been too. But you know what I have found? Sensitivity is a STRENGTH and a gift! One you can use to your advantage if you learn to use it correctly. Meditation will teach you. You have this knowledge inside, you just have to quiet your mind enough to let yourself teach you. You can do anything you want to.

I would be happy to instruct you if you want to give it a try. Or just start trying before you fall asleep at night.
I don't see the 12 step thing as something I will choose to deal with ever again but I am not saying it is worthless.

Right now I feel worthless and would view someone with years clean working the 12 steps as superior in character to me.

Yet something about it just sits wrong with me in terms of getting over addiction.
 
I sent you a P.M.

Sorry to hear your appointment frustrated you so badly.
Don’t let it bother you.
It does not seem like there is much help out there.

I have found all the things that help me myself for the most part.
except for some medications from a pain specialist.

Just keep on keeping on my friend.
❤️
 
I'm my own pain specialist. :LOL: Let me just give you a hug then take a big sigh and then sigh.

Right I'm so done with the more hysterical part of this story. I still feel embarrassed for ever being like this, but I simply cannot help myself, I'm sad. That's what cuckolding and friendzoning does to you if you're already fucked in the head, I'll save that for the psychiatrist for now, which I've been put on a waiting list for. I went for a referral a couple days after I posted the above, but they forgot? had to come back the next day, lol, I'll just show them the topic here when I finally get there in maybe a month, absolutely done with talking about this for now, been dwelling on it for over 4 monhts already or something, maybe even 20 years.

And that's probably where I'll leave it agt for a long time, it's not doing any good throwing anyone under this selfish af bus, I don't even know who is reading with me, some friends know my online persona, family, whatever. haven't heard a fucking thing from them even though they were all having these grandiose idea's for getting me back on track, lol, I told them I lost all my contacts with my new phone, but I guess everyone was too drunk and or coked out of their minds to notice, or just too aware of me being suicidal and trying to fuck off from the situation. Good, I wasn't worth shit anwyas being so depressed, still can't force myself to do stuff, but because ow hurts pain.

I feel good (or bad i haven't decided, maybe just disinhibited, stick with that) enough to just open up about the physical pain I mentioned that was playing a big part in why I broke down so hard. Was doing so much better for a coulpe of weeks, but I've been in shits for 2 or 3 days again now, I don't even know, it might be 4 days but it blends together when you sleep intermittently. Yes I am on some soma's, guess some phenibut too, hey this works when you smoke some weed, kinda. Maybe if you put a couple of nsaids like acetaminophens and diclofenacs in the mix, maybe sgtart sipping a little alcohol or gabapentin, yes, it works. No it absolutely fucking doesn't.

What is it? I don't know. Somatoform disorder, fibromyalgia, gibve it a name, they're pretty much the same. It hurts like hell and doctors are like lol, DIFFICULT, don't give me that look uncle leo. It's simply all attention seeking behaviour right? I dunno some real old staff might remember I fucked off for a few weeks and went to the hospital for my head, I still feel this. It's just "there" when I'm feeling good but when I'm really depressed everything starts hurting like poop. It's not even my head that's bothering me the most, these last 9 years I've been fucking myself over in the greatest way possible.

Been so depressed on and off about my life and going from shit into shit that it makes you depressed. Oh literally. I tore or pulled a neck muscle 9 years ago, nearly coinciding with the tinnitus. Fine right? just get a script of harcdore diclofenac for a couple of weeks and you're good. No i can still feel the place I pulled my neck in sometimes, so you can bet your ass it was torn (in my mind), ever so sligtly maybe, but yes I'm a giant pussy. Oh and now I have this fucking imbruglia song stuck in my head, thanks.

This made me sleep ni a shit position to take the pressure of off my neck, just pile up the pillows and be done with it. YEARS. Pressure of off my neck and on to the rest of my body, imagine what this does to you, what is a girlde, ma'am. So I have always been skinny, bordering on anorexia sometimes, just underweight, you know, like your average mental patient on a lot of meth. When you don't eat well on and off for years on end, smoke too much, your bones probably become a little osteoporotic anyways, free phosphorous discplaces calcium, your bones soften, uhh. So I dented in. The ribs and shoulder hurt the most, especially the ribs, I just keep fucking up my ribs again right now, last couple years it was my shoulder. RIbs can't ever be fixed either, sot here's that. Weird how depression leads to actual depression right, oh the irony, lmao. I mean only I seem to notice it, but the moment you tell someone they start focusing on it as much as I do, yeah anorexia and body dysmorphia, that's shit right? that's where it borders on, or most certainly is the latter. That neatly fits into the whole feeling inadequate aspect and ocd/avoidance persoanlity disorders and whatnot, you can actually ignore it if you look and feel good about yourself, but the moment you don't your fucking world falls apart. Fuck narcissism and vanity and myself.

But it hurts like shit. Not only to know that I've done this to myself, but that it actually hurts like shit. I started to feel so much better physically these last weeks compared to the last couple months, thought I could perhaps sleep on my right side again, just because it's comfy af, you don't have to hear and feel your heart beating, you're ont on your back, because sleeping like that sucks, but that's the only thing I have left now though, I can never sleep on my right side again, maybe (someone say no, that's bullshit). And all these painkillers don't work, not one bit, well probably a bit more than a bit. I lost my train of thought? I am prett numb lol. I was just done with it, I thought noo not again, I was so over this pain. Just needed to take some heavier shit to deal with this for a couple days. Just weed & soma's didn't seem to do anything the day before, so I piled it up today. Yes very low dosages, just all together, yes my spelling absolutely sucks, I don't care, you care, this usually happens to some degree anyways because my keybaord on this laptop is all demolished and I've been reading and writing and distracting myself with stuff for a couple hours already, almost done, not going back trying to fix everything anymore, sleepy. I'm not dying. Thaaaanks, I'm fine. I just needed to vent again, it helps apparently when you're spiraling out of control, lol. Feels good catching yourself slipping. Honestly it's none of that, can't someone find some quick relief for a little while?

Maybe I'll not show my psychiatrist this topic now. Have you ever tried taking a crap while you were in excruciating pain where you can't find any position to comfartably poop in and have constipation from the muscle relaxants, lol. PUSH. is this what childbirth is like? guess I could've used the clamps. Forget shitting when even sitting sucks, working out is impossible, actually what lead to me fucking up my ribs (and noticing them pulling on my back too because I've lost all form) again, tried working out, eating healthy, noticed I couldn't, completely broke down on top of the emotional breakdown I already had. ok I'm done I think, see where I am with this in a couple weeks. Usually it last a little longer with contused bones, but I'm optimistic when I'm so high,

What a fucking mess. Good addendum though? It completes the sadness. 👌 Aging like a fine wine in the sun, all vinegarry and rancid. I think I'm drinking some of that right now. Pissing myself laughing.

And then i woke up with all my shit on the ground, forgot to have posted this stuff 10 hours ago, I'm going to bed,.
 
I came to Nam
And I went back
So the last couple of weeks I became addicted to crack
I've finally hit rock bottom

The above shitty poem is dedicated to myself, inspired on me reconnecting with my ex gf from my teenage years.

That was a costly mistake, I mean literally, she's got a coke habit..

I've paid off the debts she had 2 years ago, which weren't that much comparatively, she recently switched from insufflation to smoking though, so the costs have increased dramatically..

I forgave her for fucking my nephew a couple years back I think the moment I actually finally fell in love with someone again and only my current love mattered.

Maybe I forgave her before that even, I forgave both of them actually, we're all human, I can understand being lonely and seeking companionship, I understand lust, understand convenience.

But they both knew I wouldn't like it, I didn't know myself yet how many problems I would have with it though, it opened up a wound I thought I kinda dealt with in years prior.

I never really dealt with that other wound completely though, I had accepted parts of it, but apparently it shaped me more than I'd like to admit, or admit, more than I thought

I made this thread 6 and a half years ago to seek for advice about how to tend to that wound, learning new coping mechanisms instead of running away from everyone taking drugs to sedate myself and try and make me forget, because

A big part of my disorders got formed in early childhood and puberty, I think avoidance got reinforced when one of the few girls I fell in love with started messing around with nearly everyone I knew, including my family, it's the girl I made this thread about, it's why I always have my guard up and don't let people into my life

And to have this happen again so many years later with the first girl I fell in love with, the girl I grew up with and have known for 40 years, that I lost my virginity to, it made me relive a lot of those feelings I could never really deal with in all the previous years I was alive



All I needed was someone that knows me a little to talk to, I always could talk to her about anything

So I spoke to her about the woman that I fell in love with

And in the end her answers were the same everyone else gave me

It's not a good idea to pursue it anymore, you tried your hardest, she would destroy you, she hates you, just forget about it



I can't, it already destroyed me, but not because she's with me, but because she's not

Because I never even got that far, for someone to have had such an effect on me without ever truly making true what we promised one another is

She means the world to me, she found me, I found her, she was exactly the person I needed at the time I needed her

One of the most amazing, witty, smart, kind, beautiful and caring women I've ever known

Someone who immediately felt right to me, will always feel that way for as long as I'm alive

I knew we were both broken already, I didn't care

I looked past the past and told her my own, my vision of our future, just a couple of words, but I meant what I said

Marry me, I want to grow old with you, I want to have kids with you, start a family, be together forever

And then reality hits, or the fantasy turns way too dark and depressive, instead of dreams we got nightmares

I was literally riding high in April, shot down in May



I thought I could handle it, but I thought wrong

You have every right to have given up on me, on us, I can't force you to do anything

But the reasons you gave me I think ruined me so hard, you know yourself it's not true

I do love you, that's the thing, I don't think I've ever loved someone as much as I love you

I've tried looking for different answers in different places

But everyone keeps telling me the same thing

Just like you I think I don't give a fuck what anyone tells me anymore, we both think that we know we're right

I think I've stopped caring about their opinion as much because I know it's impossible for me to feel any different about you

I know what I feel for you, I know how much I care, I know I can be better, I know because this feels like I'm at the bottom, again

How much further can I go I wonder?

It was rock bottom apparently



I'm empty, there's nothing left in me, the only thing that remains is my love for you

I still wake up waiting for your call, I go to sleep when I can, which still comes whenever

I went days without sleep with only nicotine as a drug, but the mental anguish is always there

My depression had never been this strong before

So instead of just sponsoring my ex gf her coke habit, I joined in on the fun

First couple of weeks it was fine, could walk away any minute and not have cravings

Stupid decisions come all at once sometimes

So now that my bankcard including code had been left at her house, I became aware of my predicament

She keeps talking to me about karma, I'm wondering if this is mine

I probably deserve all of it, I deserve nothing

I feel empty, incredibly empty, in more ways than one



I don't feel right, honestly don't

I gave up weed after 25 years, sober for 3 months

I gave up benzo's after picking back up when she left, I did high doses in the 4 months we didn't speak, way too high

I just wanted to sleep last week, so I took some again, I smoked a joint again, I dropped benzo's a couple days in a row to just get to sleep

I took a dose so high that it scared me when it hit me all at once, thought it was too much and I would not be able to wake up again, so I fought the sleep for an hour until I was calmer

Woke up a day later, still exhausted and not feeling right

Will I ever feel right again?

Your last reply I think killed something inside of me, that's not what it was at all

Why can't we just talk?

Why can't we be friends?

Why does everything have to be so final with you?

You know I'm right about what you went through, you know I'm just looking out for you, I've always tried to help you

I hate what my message might've done, the implications and consequences, for both you and me

I know what it has done for me, but I'm not sure about you, I'm scared to find out, but I want to know



I will always love you, that's not going to change, ever

I've tried leaving you alone, tried to forget you, I've tried but I can't

You mean too much to me, I'm worried to death, I wish I could make everything right again

I tried the same thing you did, try and get rid of the feelings I have for you

It didn't work, it only made things worse for me, I feel incredibly guilty

Feel like it was all my fault we never happened, it mainly was because of me now, wasn't it?

Please just talk to me, I'm not asking for much

I don't think you've ever treated someone who means best for you like this, someone who loves you so much..

I'm not trying to ruin you, with every passing day it feels like you're trying to ruin me though

To make me feel as much pain as it did for you having to deal with me

I'm sorry I made you feel unwanted, you weren't, you're the person I wanted the most, still want the most, my heart won't let you go, my mind can't stop thinking about you

I think it hurt me more, way more, I'm not trying to win this race, I'm just telling you how losing you made me feel

The goalposts were always real, don't pretend like none of it was, all of it was, it was all real, it still is for me, that dream lives on forever

It was always going to be difficult, but I wanted to overcome everything, together

But you decided I was the cause of your anxiety, your pain, your traumas

I wasn't, I'm not, it was what you were going through, what we were going through, it was too much, we both couldn't handle it..



Please help me figure this out for me, for us, I hope you can summon up some of those feelings you had for me and be the person you always were

Someone so empathetic that you want to help a friend in need whenever and wherever you can

A friend with weed is better?

You were wrong about your assumptions about me, it hurts so much knowing that you will never really know the depths of my love for you now, that I will never be able to show it, to share it with you, it's a hurt that will stay with me forever..

I didn't feel relief when you stopped calling, I felt horrible dread, I missed you, wasn't able to contact you anymore, it drove me mad I wasn't able to, I didn't know what to do..

The last place I expected you to be you were already at for months, if I knew I would've been there to speak to you sooner, but I didn't know, I didn't..

In all those months all I could do was sedate myself, I had no time to deal with these feelings, but you did, I'm sorry I wasn't able to be there for you in that time, I wish I was, but I also wasn't sure if I was what you wanted, what you needed..

I wish things would've gone differently, in my life, but especially the last year and a half, wish it would've gone differently with us

I so want you to be happy, but that only works if I'm happy too

Just talking to you would make me happy, it would bring me some relief

I still want you in my life, in whatever way possible

I don't care what it takes, I'm willing to do whatever, if you need time, just let me know somehow

I'm sorry, sorry for everything

I will always love you, you will always be more than a friend to me

I wrote that months ago. Open letter to the woman I fell in love with. I've written so much more, entire pages full of better stuff, also significantly worse shit, but I never sent her the above back then.. Used some parts of it in my messages to her, like the shitty crack poem, lmao.. But it's no use anyways, everything I send her doesn't get read, I'm blocked, being ignored, I don't matter anymore, my version of events is meaningless to her, I am.

I'm still stuck, so fucking stuck, I just needed to put that somewhere else, I don't want to bother her anymore really, but I keep on doing just that. I still have so many questions I need answered that no one else can answer for me.

I made this thread once out of pure despair, thinking I would never find love again, because of who I am, because of all my flaws, because of both mental and physical problems, because of my past, because of my lack of a promising future, because I feel worthless, am useless, because I'm a failure..

I never really expected to ever experience that feeling again, to let myself feel it again anyways, I think I was scared of it as well, because it means so much.. It means everything.. Love is one of the most powerful feelings you can have, to me only love really is worth living for, without love life is meaningless, in my opinion anyways.

But it means opening yourself up and being vulnerable, it means potentially getting hurt if it doesn't work out, it means it could be unrequited, it could mean I would lose everything..

I did find it again though, after decades I finally found that same feeling I had when I was 16, that same feeling I had for the girl I broke down so hard over in this thread, only more intense, more real, more meaningful, it wasn't unrequited this time.. This time she was the one who contacted me first and showed interest, she felt like she made the right choice by reaching out to me when I was going through a rough time. I did too, I think she still has no idea how much she helped me by just being there for me, how much that meant to me, how much she means to me..

I trusted her immediately, because some people just feel right, they feel more real than other people, she was one of the real ones, she recognized my struggle, I recognized hers.. I poured my heart out to her right away, and she took away nearly all of my pain, my worries, just by listening, being understanding, by comforting me, telling me it was going to be alright.. She said she was so glad she reached out to me when she did, I felt like I found my soulmate, I found love again.. At the end of the summer in '24, when she found me, and I found her.. I genuinely haven't been so in love with someone, since forever actually, meeting her felt like coming home, like it was meant to be.. It made me forget my pain, the past didn't matter anymore, only our future did.

The decision to really meet means she had to stop taking suboxone since you can't easily have your subscription filled over here without getting approval in court and all kinds of other legal hoops.. That started it all, the beginning of the end, the end of a beginning that was never going to take place anymore.. Suddenly she was reliving her traumas, I knew she had ptsd already, she told me what happened, I felt her pain when she shared it with me.. I understood her pain, wanted to save her from ever having to go through something like that again, because I know exactly what it's like to be hurt by the people you're in or have been in a relationship with. I know what it's like when you blame yourself for the problems you went through, when you're depressed so bad you retreat from society, keep yourself away from your friends and family, when you don't want to burden them with your problems, you don't want to drag them down with you. When you think that you cannot change yourself for the better, when you see no future, lose all hope, it seems neverending, it's an almost unsurmountable task to ever climb out of the hole you've created for yourself. You just want to sink into the ground, crawl into bed and sleep, sleep it all away, like I'm doing currently again..

Whether it's purely post-traumatic stress disorder, I don't know, doubt it, because the moment she started tapering the suboxone she was having persecutory delusions which were taking over our whole lives,. All these disorders and mental problems overlap anyways, but I thought it's more likely a form of schizophrenia, even evidence to the contrary will not sway her opinions, deep disconfirmatory evidence bias. She made me save so many pictures which were supposed to be evidence, but they're completely normal things, none of it proves anything other than her unraveling and that's why she refuses to have someone else look at them. It would confirm my side of the story, that she never was under attack from anyone, no one was messing with her, no one was following or spying on her, it was all just her adhering significance to normal things coloured by her ptsd and trauma, it all made sense in her mind. I tried to offer rational and more logical explanations to what was happening, but she only became more suspicious of my intentions, thinking that me asking guidance from one of her friends was me cheating on her for example.. When she found out I wasn't cheating after having to show the private chat I had with that friend to her, but was only discussing her losing the plot and asking for advice on what to do, it felt like betrayal to her, as if I had someone to shit talk her with when I was only worried to death about her..

It made her even more determined to prove that everything was happening, I think that's when she really began emotionally detaching herself from me already, she only stuck around hoping it would change, that I would change.. That I would initiate contact more instead of her being the one to nearly always reach out, hoping that I would take her problems seriously instead of telling her it wasn't likely, but I did take it seriously, I don't think anyone has ever taken her version of events more seriously than I have.. I dedicated my life to her, I was building my future around her, I was looking for ways to make her feel better every day, when I wasn't talking to her on the phone for hours I was learning, looking up articles, watching videos, browsing and buying products, things that could possibly help her out with whatever she was going through.. Only my tone changed at times, my frustration grew when nothing I tried seemed to help, she felt like I was the one driving her crazy now instead of the month long withdrawals adding to her paranoia, anxiety, insomnia, etc. And I guess I was.. I made her feel like she was unwanted when she was going through such a difficult time, I wasn't able to be supportive, I wasn't able to support her.. But she never was unwanted, I never stopped loving her, I just couldn't make her feel that way again..

It all went to shit, all because she thought I didn't love her anymore, or never did, that she never loved me, that it wasn't butterflies she felt but anxiety.. She concluded that I was the cause of her anxiety, that instead of the withdrawals and psychosis, it was me, I was the sole cause.. I was making her anxious, when I started questioning her reality, she saw me as the problem.. She left me hanging, ghosted me, I couldn't contact her anymore, from 8 months of calling every day for hours on end, trying to settle her nerves about whatever she thought was happening, to being dropped from one day to another.

It's now been 8 months since I last heard her voice, 4 months since she replied to a message after I found her online again. She seemed to be doing better, but from what I had to read and was told by her, only because she thinks I was the problem causing her to feel that way, not because she stopped tapering and stabilized on a lower dose of suboxone.. I finally told her outright what I think happened, but she took it as a threat, I am now part of her ongoing persecutory delusions, I am the one trying to fuck up her life. She never wants to hear from me again, ignores everything I have to say, blocked me everywhere.. I keep trying to reach out because I finally can and wasn't able to before, I was trying to take accountability, trying to right the wrongs, I'm still trying to repair, but there's nothing left, it's too late, it's all for nothing..

It absolutely killed me. All I wanted to do was help her, make sure that she'd get better, I didn't want to take revenge, rewrite the story to fit my narrative, blame shift, manipulate or gaslight her, I did it out of my love for her, I self-sacrificed my chance at her when I tried to contact her family to tell them what happened, only because I had no idea how she was doing, no idea if she was ever going to get better if she didn't accept what she has.. I handled everything the wrong way looking back, I mean everything.. It only proved her she was right about me when I did that, as if I've intentionally been manipulating her, that I'm a narcissist who's trying to destroy her life by spreading rumours, by blackmailing her or whatever she thinks it was.. I only hurt her, I've hurt the woman I love, I feel more than terrible, it's hell, I can't escape my despair, can't forgive myself for fucking this up, can't believe it all ended up this way.. I lost her..

I have been trying to get out of this hole all that time, but I'm not able to, it's not happening, I'm not getting better, it's only getting worse. I'm not even just done this time, I think I have given up. It feels like I'm never getting over this shit, feels like only she could've saved me. I gave away my heart to her, I can't seem to get it back, I've left it with her, there's a gaping hole now where my heart should be.. I lost myself, the version of myself I wanted to become for her, the man she wanted me to be, but I never was able to, never was able to live up to her expectations, I only made her feel unwanted, unloved, I could not reciprocate the affection and love she gave me, I was too busy trying to fix the impossible by entertaining her delusions and trying to find ways to stop her from having them, than that I made her feel loved, I wasn't as emotionally available as I was in the beginning, before she started withdrawing, before the mayhem started..

The same person doesn't come around twice in a lifetime, not being able to ever show her how much she means to me, never getting a chance again at showing her how much I actually love her, it feels like I've died already..


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^ I wrote all of the above a couple of days ago, I was bumming some people out with me being depressed and talking about how worried I was about her again, so they said to just send a message on facebook or whatever.. I said she blocked me, I can't, I'm being ignored everywhere, she hasn't responded to my messages in 4 months now, I said she probably also has her profile hidden so looking for her wouldn't work. So they looked, found her new profile immediately, then they told me, "see, she's fine, she's forgotten all about you already"..

And then my heart sank again. Turns out she's been in a relationship with someone else for 5 months now already, a month before I finally was able to speak to her again, 2-3 months after discarding me, I've been replaced.. I saw her smile again though, she's got her glow back, it made me happy she looked happy, but I wish I was the one who could've made her smile like that, that I was the one who could make her happy, that I was the one instead of him..

I'm happy she's happy, but I want to be happy as well.. It's like my heart keeps breaking over and over and over.. I thought I'd found my soulmate, she did too, but now that went to being just a mistake, a lesson, someone who apparently sucked her soul dry, someone not worth her time or energy, someone not worth anything, someone who she'd rather never have to speak to again, even if it meant it could save them, she'd rather see me die..

And I can't even blame her, I know it's not her fault, it's because of me she went too fast with the taper, she wanted to be done with them quicker so she could see me, but it was too much, was almost as if she kept going in and out of psychosis, slipping in and out of consciousness, sometimes she knew that the things that she thought were happening couldn't be happening, the next day it was happening all over again and she was convinced of her being under attack. It made me so fucking worried, it tired me out so much having to deal with the delusions, I spent so much time trying to save her from having to worry about it that I let go of my boundaries, I accepted that our phonecalls were taking over everything, from hours everyday to having them go on for literal days. She felt safer when the calls kept going, so we even slept with our calls going, we woke up with calls going, I couldn't do much else but make her feel safe, but I was a slave to her desires, I had no time to rest anymore, I sometimes reacted irritable, or shut down when she asked difficult questions, I tried to not slip back into avoidance, but there were days that I could only sleep hours after she went to sleep, so I missed calls, missed messages that I couldn't react immediately to, it made her feel ignored, like I did it intentionally.. I only did twice and I told her upfront that I wasn't gonna entertain her paranoid accusations, the other time was that I so desperately wanted sleep that I told her I was gonna turn my phone off, because I knew she'd be calling me awake otherwise.. I lost myself trying to save her, she lost herself trying to keep loving me, it turned into hate for her, she hates me for what I've done, which I cannot really deal with mentally.

This shit has broken me, I'm now someone who's tried to ruin her life, someone who keeps slandering her, blaming her for everything that went wrong, but I'm not, I'm simply finally telling her that she was simply losing it again, that it was her psychosis that broke me, that I was frustrated it wasn't getting better no matter what I tried, not that I didn't love her, I love the woman to death, always will, but if I would've told her right away what I thought was really happening I would've lost her then and there.. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt and by doing so I made it more comfortable for her to share her version of events, she felt heard, I hope anyways, because I did listen, I listened so much, but to the wrong things, she asked me to show my love more, literally hear me say that I love her, but that'll always feel kinda awkward to me, it's just a given I love you, I stuck by her for the bad times, but now someone else gets to enjoy the good times?

In her mind it will always make more sense to blame me than admitting she was having a substance induced psychosis when withdrawing from suboxone, because she didn't really feel loved by me and it only made her anxious to have to shrink herself for my lack of empathy for her situation, why waste time on someone who doesn't really love you right? I can only blame myself that I didn't try harder, that I didn't show my love more. That last time she called, I could only sigh and ask her if she'd been looking at her phone the whole night again and she just screamed and hung up, that was the out she was looking for to give up on me, probably for months already, but all those extra months together only made me love her more, I was already emotionally attached to her, but this only grew more with time, I was determined to stay, make it work, even if it killed me, I was going to finally make it real, take care of the woman I love so much, have kids, get married, grow old together.. No one has ever made me want to have children with them, she made me want that, I told her I wanted to have one with her, she wanted it too, said I deserved it. I'm still crying over how happy that made me feel, because I meant all of it, that feeling she gave me, I love her so much, so so much..

All gone from one day to the next. And then you find out that she's not had any trouble with forgetting you, making you a thing of the past, permanently, that I was considered someone bad, a waste of time, someone unwilling to change, someone who was keeping her from living her best life.. And I only proved her right by doing a complete 180 and telling her she WAS having a psychosis, that the shit she was thinking happened never did, that I was thinking of telling her family and showing them pictures of all the evidence we gathered because in my opinion she needed appropriate therapy and different meds instead of doing fucking mushrooms and ketamine every weekend, which she considered blackmail and a reason to never want to hear from me again.. I am fucking destroyed. This is seriously fucking with my mind too hard, I'm nothing in the eyes of the woman I love so much, nothing more than something you ignore and forget in the hope it dies.

I am lost, I'm not getting better. The task to fix myself is just too great, there is no end to this, every place I turn to for help I get none, I've given up. I can't get out of bed, I just want to sleep and I can't, I keep ruminating, keep feeling sorry for myself, keep wishing it would've all gone differently. I quit weed, quit benzos, kept that up for almost 4 months, I relapsed because I just wanted rest, I want to be able to fall asleep and keep sleeping, started doing a bunch of crack too, yeah my life feels over.. I am not getting over her, ever. She was it, in my mind she still is, in my heart she still is, my soul has left me and is looking for her ghost.. I'm so done guys, I still can't cope with heartbreak, I can't cope with life, I don't feel like there's much time left, I'm not going to be able to find myself anymore anytime soon, there's nothing left in me, my inner strength is gone. I can't make myself just fall in love with someone else and replace her, I'd be betraying my feelings if I did.. She cannot be replaced, I'm stuck with her, we didn't even get to start and now it ended already? I'll forever have to wonder now, I can't deal with this shit anymore, can't get over it.

I just wanted to love her and have her love me, I didn't plan for any of this happening, I just let my feelings guide me.. I didn't care about her past, what I'm now understanding from fucking relationship advice from facebook reels I should've cared about the red flags, that all her exes were crazy revengeful, that she needed a lot of attention, that she made me push past my boundaries, but I didn't care, I still don't, but I wish it would've gone differently, I wish that one day I will still get the chance to make up for all my shortcomings, but I know I won't, so what use is there to keep living even? If I can't have her love, what use is there? For myself? That's a fucking joke, my life is worth nothing, I'm useless. She didn't care she said, she loved me for who I was, didn't care about my flaws. She probably felt trapped by her own words, she had to convince herself the feelings weren't love but anxiety, only confirming that to be the case when she left me and didn't have a reason to drop the subs too fast anymore, giving her nervous system the rest she wasn't getting, because of me of course, I was the reason she was in pain.. I just cannot fucking believe this is how it went, that this is the outcome of me finally falling in love again and committing to a woman, finally feel vulnerable enough to share your whole life with someone, the love of your life, your soulmate, your twin flame, then get trampled on and left behind as if I am nothing.. Was I just a temporary fix to hold while she confronted herself with her past and tried to heal while using the comfort of my love to fill the emptiness, was I just a distraction that she mistakenly thought she needed and not the one she truly wanted like she made me believe? The whole time I'm thinking I really meant something, now I have to heal from her and there's no one to comfort me, no one's coming to my help, I am alone again, but not out of choice this time, she chose for me, there wasn't any discussion, this time I wish I had her by my side, the her that really meant it, the her I lost throughout all of this.. And not to use her as a temporary fix either, I never wanted to let her go, I still don't, I genuinely still love her, something I can't change, something I can't forget. I'm still fucking chasing her ghost while she never wants to hear from me again, how stupid am I for still trying? I just can't let this go, can't let her go, I'm lost..

I'm fucking broken, I can't stop crying, I feel fucking pathetic that I can't deal with this shit.. I just needed to put this here, fitting place for my demise. She made me finally get over the heartbreak I endured 20-25 years ago, how many years will it take to get over her now I wonder? Too many, it will take another lifetime, don't want to endure that torture. I'm going to try and go back to sleep. I hope I don't wake up anymore one of these days. I was close a week ago, but sleeping on my side saved me from choking on my vomit. I hope it comes soon. I just want out. If I don't come back to reply anymore you know what happened.

I'm gonna buy a couple grams of crack and smoke myself calm first, until I inevitably get wired and can't sleep for a day or 2-3, helps making not eating easier too, I have no appetite, I just want to lay in bed and not move, sink into the ground, crawl away and hide, I want a quick fix, push a button and integrate this devastation into my life, I want to lie to myself like she did and say it wasn't important to me at all, I want to be able to move on, but I can't.. I know myself, I'm not going to be able to let this go, this is forever pain, not going away pain, changing me for the worse instead of the better pain, it's pain that goes so deep no man has ever gone there before, I don't want to go there, I don't want this pain, someone take it away from me, someone kill me before I do it myself, someone stop me from disappointing more people in my life, I don't want to burden anyone with myself, but that's exactly what I'm doing by remaining myself. I need to change but am seemingly not able to, I can't be helped, she said I can't be changed and she's right, I want to, but I can't, I see no way out right now, there's no light in this darkness, my own light has dimmed and disappeared, it's been sucked up in a black hole I can't get out of, a void I'm forever trapped in, this shit is hell.

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I just woke up again, I fell asleep scrolling through our chats yesterday, was awake for 3 days, it's friday again already.. Exactly a week ago I found out that she's been in a relationship for months already, that she's happy, happy without me.. I woke up extremely depressed, cannot get out of this, looking back at how we started chatting, it fucked me up too much.. That feeling I had when I found her, how she made me feel, how much I poured into her back then.. I can't ever get that feeling back again. No one else will ever be able to.. I don't think I'll ever be able to deal with this, I love that woman.. So fucking much. She's unreplaceable. She stole my heart, she is it.. I can't ever show her now? Never be able to make all of that real? I'm done. I can't find her again, cannot replace her. I can't integrate this into my life, I just feel like ending my life atm. I'm just gonna press enter and show everyone how sorry I'm feeling for myself, to document what a pathetic fuck I am. Like any of it really matters to you people.. What am I proving by posting this anyways? That I am worthless? That I need help and am desperately reaching out for it? No one's able to do anything about it anyways. She was able to. She calmed me down. She made me feel seen, she saw worth in me where others didn't. I gave my heart away to her, can't get it back. It's not like I don't want to change, but that I couldn't even change myself for her, that I seemed to be unwilling to change, that I let this all slip through my hands because I never changed? It's something I cannot accept. I can't accept not having done more to make this real. I can't accept that I'll never even meet the woman that's the absolute love of my life, how pathetic is that? I never even really met her, it's all a fucking fantasy. I am broken beyond repair..
 
Dude, stalking her will only make it worse.

Never date a woman who uses drugs or drinks too much. Even those who are in recovery.

It is potentially dangerous for both people; if each has or had a drug problem.

If people hate me more; ok, but it is the truth.

Trying to find meaning by placing all your trust into another person; to find meaning and purpose?

Most relationships fail. Not even talking marriage( which, the divorce rate is high), but girlfriends come and go, when you are younger.

Getting older and finding the right person to devote your life too; should not be a burden.

She would have flipped on you quicker than a switchblade, when you threatened to tell her family. That should have been expected.

The blackmail thing; Trust went to 0%.

I am not trying to be cold, just realistic.

Two halves don't equal one good relationship, usually.

You can find love again. Just be sober and only date chicks who aren't or were ever addicted to drugs or who drink heavily.

Find a woman who has a great relationship with her family and no baggage.

Find a woman who can help you if you need it. Don't go near women who have red flags, who are needy, ect... Love is not really what was described in the latest post.

Your need to have a woman to make you feel whole; that means you really aren't ready for a normal relationship.

A romantic relationship IMO is about two people who wish to share their lives with someone else. Not trying to fix serious problems both of them have.

If she moved on a month after your relationship, she was done, before your relationship was over.

Most guys don't want their gf talking to an ex. Unless it is about child custody and/or alimony.

Also if she is totally sober, she was probably told to cut off all contact with people who could potentially be a bad influence.

Her bf, probably did what I would have.
" It is me or him". Choose.

She also has, had a bf, for almost as long as you were dating/ relationship. I wouldn't want a woman I was dating talking to an ex.

Also, every detail of what you told her; he probably knows. He, like most men would say, " stay away." Also, he is only gonna hear her side and be on it. Unless, she changes her mind and finds another guy.

You didn't put your trust into a woman you just met.

I would be pissed if I had a steady gf and she was spending her free time talking to an ex. Also, she probably has painted a really really bad picture of you to him.(figuratively speaking)

Most men, would not put up with a woman still tied to her ex. Even on a friendship level. Suspensions, would be racing through my head.( I am not even the jealous type).

Sorry, to be this direct, but words of encouragement will not help.

You, have become obsessed.

You can't trust people, especially when love is involved. Throw in drugs and it is exponentially worse.

You can't be a whole person if you desperately need a woman to make you feel like a whole person.

Trust is to be earned and love takes time to really grow.

Find a low maintenance woman, with a kind and empathetic heart; who has no baggage.

Don't give up. Get yourself together and then keep your eyes and heart open. Find a woman who has her life together, and wants a man to share it with.

Besides: Love is a 2 way street.

But most of all, please don't give up on life.
 
Remember that if you've had one relationship. You'll have another. And that the relationship you're focused on now. Or the relationship that you are in now.
Whether it's a favorite person, partner. Whoever, it is this is not the last relationship that you'll have in your life .... unless you want it to be.

And you don't have to sell yourself out. You don't have to degrade your relationship and sacrifice your sense of self and well-being to be in that relationship.

Or be in the present, with the rest of us now.



You feel like it or have a dream that might seem like a signal to reach out to that person. That you have to go and try to reconnect. Well no you don't. It is your brain trying to process that perhaps you're moving on from that. And it's okay to move on.

Sometimes it's those unhelpful Sad beliefs, behaviors, and patterns that go along with that dissolution of the relationship.



That does not mean that you have become that ghost. That your value has evaporated. That is absolutely positively a million percent not true.





I just wanted to say this all once more. If you have your health it can be everything.


I'm Doomed.

Smiles. Take Care Always. 🪻
 
Remember that if you've had one relationship. You'll have another.

Ki3ly's post is wise and I tend to agree with the above line.

If I can't have her love, what use is there?

In the 2019 posts you mentioned a lost love. In the recent update post you said this about finding love:

I did find it again though, after decades I finally found that same feeling I had when I was 16, that same feeling I had for the girl I broke down so hard over in this thread, only more intense, more real, more meaningful, it wasn't unrequited this time..

You may find love again, and it might be even more complete and fulfilling than anything up to this point. This is not to take anything away from, or to diminish in any way, the most recent relationship, because without it you wouldn't be who you are now and you wouldn't be as prepared for the next stage as you are now. You do not know what life has in store for you so long as you remain in it.



And as someone who has also walked out on a psychiatrist in frustration before, I chortled at these lines:

If there's anyone who was dying there, it was him if I had stayed any longer.

THE JERKSTORE CALLED AND THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF YOU. That's what I should've said, shit.
 
the love of your life, your soulmate, your twin flame,
A person you met on the internet and knew for less than a year. You wanted different things and you can't force somebody to feel the way you do but tried anyway so they cut you off when you refused to accept they had moved on, and here we are.

I made a similar mistake many years ago. I felt like my happiness depended on their happiness and I wanted to be the one to make them happy. We both had unaddressed mental health and substance abuse issues and were leaning on each other for different reasons. Eventually they moved on and I realised that I was just a distraction before they figured out what the next part of their life entailed and couldn't handle it. I was pretty unstable for a while but the longer we spent apart the easier things became and the less resentful I felt. It took me years to completely get over everything and I've avoided relationships since as I don't think I'm wired for them. Maybe some day I'll meet someone who changes that, but for now I'm content and at peace.

We reconnected nearly a decade later and are now friends. All the pain and bitterness feels like a distant memory I can barely relate to. It feels like it was different people, and of course back then we were different people.

I wish you well. You're not a bad guy, but love isn't the same thing as obsession. You're obsessed. It isn't healthy and it is destroying you. You are destroying yourself.

Move on. You still have a life ahead of you. Nip the crack in the bud and live it.

That's all I've got. Hope it doesn't come off as harsh. Truly, I wish you well.
 
It really was amazing, she is amazing, she's got such a big fucking heart, one of the most beautiful people I've ever met. Long before I knew what she looked like she already stole my heart, she's got a beautiful soul, but it's been through a lot.. It's not her fault, it's not her fault at all, I cannot blame her, I only blame myself. Her past shaped her, as did mine, we have our own traumas we still carry around with us. We both have some of the same mental problems, we both know crippling depression, have ocd, add, we're both anxious, avoidant, dependent, she has ptsd, I probably got borderline and autism, she's been in psychosis before. We knew all this from the start, it went fucking great. We had a couple of misunderstandings here and there some miscommunications, but it always felt like we could overcome it together. She gave me the strength to feel like I could take it all on again, I gave her hope, we both were overcoming our fears and feeling alive again. That stopped the moment she started withdrawing though. I fucking hate suboxone.. So stupid that I determined she needed help when I'm the one who needs help the most. She's a lot stronger than I am.

But I knew from the beginning that I probably wasn't ready, I was scared to drag her down with me. My life is a mess, I've never really dealt with any of my problems, she was afraid I would go poof again if something would happen, just disappear and withdraw from life like I usually do. I was so determined to make this work though, but it came too soon, probably for the both of us.. Timing is everything.. That's what she said to me in the beginning, at the very start.. Fuck, fucking serendipity. She simply stole my heart, I couldn't help my feelings, we both couldn't. It's not like I have that many options to choose from, I'm not desirable, I don't put myself out there. The dates I've had were few and far between in the last 20 years, all ended up being one night stands and flings not lasting more than a few weeks. There's only a couple of women I've really had these deep feelings for in my life, only a couple that I've really had a good connection with, some of those I went poof on because of things happening in my life, so I never could find out. It's always what could've been with me, as the years pass by I keep on finding myself going back to those places instead of searching for new ones. I know it is unhealthy, I know I am. I know she was, but does that mean we just don't even give each other a chance if we've got baggage? It's not like I am looking for damaged women, it's not like I aim for co-dependencies, but I do require connection, familiarity, so therein lies the crux, her problems and her personality, it's what made the bond as well, we both felt and shared each other's pain, we're both too empathetic, we feel pain too much, it was like looking in a mirror. The way we deal with and respond to it is different for everyone though,

I really fucking hate myself, I don't forgive myself. I did stalk her when I was finally able to talk to her again yeah. It just reignited me, finally seeing her name again, it awakened me from the slumber I was in those 4 months prior. In those months I told myself I wasn't going to reach out and stalk her when it was her decision to leave me behind, I did want to, I intended to send her some physical mail when all the other ways we stayed in contact with were gone all of a sudden. But I had no idea she'd found someone else either, I knew she was trying to move on from me though, but I still thought there was hope, because of what she's told herself about me, all the wrong conclusions, that I then only manage to turn into right conclusions after I went nuts on her when I got blocked and ignored while I was doing benzo's cold turkey, it's like a bad dream, a nightmare turned reality. I could see myself doing it, I knew what the consequences would be, that I would lose any chance I still potentially had left, but I felt the responsibility to let her know as well. She does need to realize she was wrong about some things, as was her doctor, thinking she cannot be in psychosis because she's not doing cocaine, not realizing suboxone withdrawals can do the same. But I had hoped I'd be able to come to terms with it all as well, that it would give me some relief, that I'd be able to move on more easily if I let her know what was on my mind this whole time. It didn't. It destroyed me. I knowingly caused her pain, but it's also had the complete opposite effect. It only strengthened her beliefs, and it only rekindled all the feelings I had for her, it's just a fucking tragedy. All the things I did, it was wrong, it turned out wrong,I never intended to hurt her, but I knew it was going to. I just felt like it was imperative to let her know, let her know it were delusions, let her know to never let herself get swallowed up by them again, fearing it would always follow her around no matter what, she just had to know, I didn't want it to influence the rest of her life, whether is was going to be with or without me. She deserves stability, it was killing me the whole time when she was going through all of that, you have no idea how fucking worried I was and have been this whole time.

Have you ever felt anxiety so great that it consumes your entire being? She does, I do, it's the fucking worst feeling ever, I didn't know what to do anymore, it was hurting the both of us. I just couldn't tell her when she told me "you don't just tell someone they're in psychosis", so I didn't, I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I thought that just offering more rational explanations while taking her seriously was the only way forward until she was finally done withdrawing, but it never felt right that I kept it from her.. I just couldn't tell her, I was being tactful because I knew what the implications would be, it was a mistake that I thought I could handle it all on my own instead of telling her that she needed help, I didn't want her to be admitted, didn't want to lose her, it was so selfish looking back..

I kept our lives in stranglehold because I gambled on a good outcome, I wanted that happy ending, I wanted her to overcome the subs, the resulting anxiety and paranoid delusions, I wanted to finally meet her and make it real, embrace her in my arms, hold her tight and never let go again. But I folded under the pressure, I couldn't handle it, I thought I could, I hoped I could, but it only made everything worse. We both could've ended it so much earlier, we both knew somewhere it was always going to be impossible, we both lied to ourselves I think, it went on for too long, but I just didn't want to give up on her, on my love for her.. I wanted to save her, she wanted to save me, it was always going to end up like this, we were both too optimistic, we both wasted time trying to fix each other, it were never our problems to fix, but what else can you do when you feel so much for someone? What else should I have done? I feel like everything I did was wrong, that all my decisions were the wrong ones, I cannot stand that I can't stop obsessing about it, that I can't let it go. I'm the one who needs to be fucking medicated, finally accept help instead of thinking I can do it all alone.

I'm so fucking sorry it all went this way, that it all ended this way, that it never even got to begin. I feel responsible for all of it, for ever thinking I was going to be enough for her, that I could build the life with her she deserves the way I am, that I put her through so much pain, that it only ended up hurting us both, something we both promised not to do to each other, it's fucking unforgivable, I don't forgive myself. Not right now, don't know if I ever will, it's something that runs too deep. I'm too fucking weak, I tend to give up easily.. I didn't ever want to give up on her though, accepting that it's been over for a long time seems impossible again right now. I simply don't see a way out right now..

Sorry for not addressing each post in particular and thanks for replying you guys.. ❤️ I was in the process of making a post and then my uncle came over, he's trying to drag me out of here, try to get my mind off of everything. I need to take a benzo first cause I can't stop crying and shaking, I'll just hit enter on this and check in later one of these days.
 
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-"it's just the fucking internet, don't worry about it"
That's what I told her when this began.. :unsure: lmao, fuck.. 😭
 
It sounds like the two of you had an amazing relationship.
It was, to me it was.. It was amazing.. 😭
I hope you're ok.
I'm not improving atm, every day seems to get worse. Whereas in the previous months I still had some hope, which I know sounds ridiculous considering everything, all that hope is gone now, I don't have hope anymore. I'm in deep grief, again, even deeper this time.. I can't break that cycle, it keeps going, over and over again. I'm not sure how much longer I can keep feeling this way, I want it to end, I'm torturing myself unwillingly.
You need to quit the pipe, mate. It's destroying your neurons, it's you're fucking ruin - you deserve better. 💜
I did. I said that to myself as well this new years and kept that up almost 10 days, but the instant gratification factor was just too tempting. Last weeks I blew a lot of money again, kinda sick of the high cost and the resulting crashes. The more you smoke the harder the crashes, it's led to this inevitable breakdown. I've been extremely self-destructive the last year, first months I was trying to keep myself sedated with high dose benzo's, went through almost half a gram of bromonordiazepam, remainder of the etizolam which was like 200mg, lot of pyrazolam, norflurazepam, buncha other stuff. Last dose of all combined benzo's I took was equivalent of 200-300 mg valium and it didn't put me to sleep, had to take a drink and some benadryl along with it to feel anything. This was right after I finally spoke to her again, her reactions kinda shocked and depressed the fuck out of me, so I decided to quit cold turkey, which was one of the most hellish experiences I've ever had, I understood her anxiety better, but if she will ever understand what I went through, I don't think she will, hope she never has to find out either..

Quit weed, quit benzo's, started feeling a little better, started reaching out, my ex contacted me, introduced me to crack. Hey it cleared my sinuses, I didn't believe her, but it did. Headcold gone, instantly hooked lol. No that took a couple weeks of some smoking here and there, but before you know it you're smoking it every day, then on your own, first every week, then every other day, and if you stop, oh yeah, it doesn't help, these crashes are new kinds of lows I'd rather not have to deal with ever again, but especially right now, it's making me not care anymore about what happens to myself. So I went back to smoking weed, benzo's and alcohol to knock myself out. Also not good, but it's really like, whatever, meh. It's simply self-medication, shrinks will put me on a buncha shit as well, maybe I can get some benzo's out of them, but that won't be anything longterm. Big chance all I'm getting is mediocre ssri's and anti-pychotics, but hey, I guess it's finally time to try their legal mind altering drugs and accept nothing in my life has been working so far.

Never date a woman who uses drugs or drinks too much. Even those who are in recovery.

It is potentially dangerous for both people; if each has or had a drug problem.

If people hate me more; ok, but it is the truth

You can find love again. Just be sober and only date chicks who aren't or were ever addicted to drugs or who drink heavily.

Find a woman who has a great relationship with her family and no baggage.

Find a woman who can help you if you need it. Don't go near women who have red flags, who are needy, ect...

A romantic relationship IMO is about two people who wish to share their lives with someone else. Not trying to fix serious problems both of them have.

Find a low maintenance woman, with a kind and empathetic heart; who has no baggage.
In an ideal world.. But it isn't, nor are my options or the guarantee I will ever develop the same kinda feelings for them. Maybe we both should've known better, but I didn't care she had problems, we simply told ourselves what we went through, over which we deeply bonded. I didn't set out to solve her problems either, it was simply what I felt obligated to do after I developed all these feelings for her. I wasn't going to run out on her just because things got more difficult, I could have several times, she could've as well, but we didn't. Until she did, but long after she wrongly concluded I was mentally checked out already, just like she probably really was herself for months already..
Trying to find meaning by placing all your trust into another person; to find meaning and purpose?

Two halves don't equal one good relationship, usually.

Your need to have a woman to make you feel whole; that means you really aren't ready for a normal relationship.

You can't be a whole person if you desperately need a woman to make you feel like a whole person.
It wasn't a need, but it does feel like that when it happens, yeah, it completes or makes you (more) whole in a sense. I don't consider it a cure or a requirement to be happy in life, but I think experiencing love is one of the most meaningful things that can happen in someone's life, I was content with my life at various points throughout the last decades. The relationships I had during those times didn't go anywhere, wasn't looking for it either, wasn't specifically looking for her this time either. It always just happened organically. If I'll ever be a whole person, lol, not likely, define whole in your own definition anyways. Simply having your life in order according to societal norms and being happy with yourself?
If she moved on a month after your relationship, she was done, before your relationship was over
I'm well aware of that, I'd say she started making up her mind 1-2 months before going by the things she asked, the things she said, the tone in which it was said, hell, maybe even 5 months, looking back it was obvious. Still, your heart likes to believe otherwise, it tricks your brain, mine anyways. I still had hope somewhere, no matter how weird that sounds, even if there was the slightest chance, I didn't want to give up when I finally got the chance to speak to her again. All that hope is lost now, so I feel lost as well.
She would have flipped on you quicker than a switchblade, when you threatened to tell her family. That should have been expected.

The blackmail thing; Trust went to 0%
They should have known much earlier, so I did send a message. I know it would've ruined any potential chance I theoretically still had left, but I felt like her health, her future, it was more important.. It didn't matter, it had no effect, it didn't get read or taken seriously. She was already in a relationship with another guy, finally doing better, so it probably only confirmed her side of the story. It only destroyed me and damaged her unnecessarily. You know how awful it felt thinking I had to do that? As if I did it for my own ego.. She just has to know, I don't want her to ever lose herself in the delusions again, I wanted her to be safe, to get better.. That's all I wanted.

Remember that if you've had one relationship. You'll have another. And that the relationship you're focused on now. Or the relationship that you are in now. Whether it's a favorite person, partner. Whoever, it is this is not the last relationship that you'll have in your life .... unless you want it to be
I definitely don't want this to be my last relationship, maybe if she changes her mind, tho, lmao, sigh.. She means so much to me, it's hard to imagine I will ever find someone like that again. This was kinda my last chance at having a kid with someone from my own generation as well, something I'd never seriously considered before. Or it has to happen right now, this coming year, but I don't see myself fixing all my problems that soon, or even betraying my feelings, moving on from her is so incredibly hard. I thought I could handle dating again for a very short period while I was sober, but it made me terribly depressed. Certainly not ready for it currently, wouldn't be fair to anyone else either being as miserable as I am now. Imagine me having a kid the way I am right now anyways, poor fucking kid.. I just wanted her to be the mom of mine, cause she's an amazing mother already, wanted to have that with her, more fucking selfishness.
That does not mean that you have become that ghost. That your value has evaporated. That is absolutely positively a million percent not true.
Telling myself anything different right now would be lying to myself. This is pretty much how it feels atm. What good is a man who lies and cries in bed all day and wallows in self-pity? I already had zero value and it turns out I was worth very little to her as well, my self-worth has evaporated.. I am a ghost, I have been haunting her and myself, I'm stuck in this mortal plane not able to pass on.
I'm Doomed
:hellmo:

I know your pain.

But you're good. ❤️

25 yrs later.....
Yeah, trauma sucks, it's pretty sad, I know.. 😞 I'm hoping it won't take this long next time, but lets check in 25 years again.

it might be even more complete and fulfilling than anything up to this point.
That's what I'm afraid of really, the might. Right now I'm sucked dry and can't see myself giving anyone else that level of dedication, of openness, it's thrown me back and reinforced my beliefs, my inadequacies, avoidance is intense fear of letting the ones you care about down, which I did, keep on doing. It's a big reason of why I keep withdrawing from life. I will be more reserved again now, the awareness already kept me from trying not to make the same mistakes with her, but then those turned out all to be mistakes, so hey, I am doubtful. I've improved already from years prior seeing as I remained for 9 months, but the end result is that I've withdrawn again. Being left behind by the person which you believed were going to spend the rest of your life with, it's more devastating than anything.

A person you met on the internet and knew for less than a year.
I know, it sounds ridiculous to me as well, but whether it's the internet or real life, whether it's a month or 10 years, sometimes the connection and feelings you have for someone are so whole and complete, it was like coming home when we started talking.. I know the terms I used are just hyperbolic and not even my own words, I could only agree with them, but yeah, the connection was out of this world, the feeling was.. Can you really blame me for not having experienced that before? You can call it pathetic, can call it an exaggeration, but some people will never feel the way I've felt.. We did feel like we found our soulmate, even if we're not, yeah we did feel that way..
You're obsessed.
You, have become obsessed.
lmao, I know, a lot of people tell me, I have ocd, it's annoying. Stopping yourself from thinking and going over scenarios over and over and over is extremely tiresome. With chess looking further ahead than 10-20 moves is comparatively easy, it has rules, a fixed playfield, it has predictable outcomes, there's only so many variables. There are no reliable outcomes when it comes to real life situations, the outcomes are endless. I have kept explaining and explaining it to myself and her by writing and analyzing trying to work through everything, but this only works temporary, just like distractions, it can make things worse as well. Sitting with the anxiety and not letting yourself overthink seems impossible in these situations. Relationship ocd is something we both struggled with, she was going by gut feelings a lot, I know myself that you can't trust your gut feeling when you've got the ocd ruminations as that shit is influenced and coloured by our past, leading us to make wrong decisions based on those deep fears we're always trying to prove or disprove. You know what works? Communication, which I was lacking in after a while and which has now disappeared completely. But yeah, I am obsessed with how this all went, I'm obsessed with her, it absolutely is destroying me, I know.. Just can't believe I will never be able to even see her now, it has fucking killed me. I need help asap, just can't go on like this any longer.

I still want her to talk to me, still want to have answers, I still want her, to be able to love her, it's fucking hell.. 😭

I know everyone and her included told me that maybe it never really was love, but I disagree.. For me the feeling remained, it endured, beyond infatuation, I made a conscious choice and committed, I've shown it through actions, I listened, I was supportive, I was empathetic, we communicated and we trusted each other. I did black out on some difficult questions she asked me concerning our plans before she even started withdrawing, because I didn't really have any answers that fast, I simply let my feelings guide me.. But when all the delusions started taking over her life, our lives, I stuck around to be able to be there for her, to support the woman I love, but it all got more difficult to consistently keep showing I love her. It feels terrible that I've let her down so hard, something I don't forgive myself for, something I wish would've gone differently, it's something I cannot let go. It feels unfair, to both her and me, that's simply not how it should've gone.. It makes me literally sick to my stomach.

I woke up 2 hours ago, but I just want to sleep again. All I'm able to do is cry.. I feel fucking helpless.
 
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