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Didgitals Psychedelic Misadventures Part 3. Accidental Mescaline Consumption

Mescaline alone can cause GI issues for many people. Spreading out the consumption of the mescaline over time seems to help a lot. I hypothesis that mucilage in cacti, which binds much of the mescaline, actually slows the rate of mescaline absorption a lot. Therefore, well-prepared teas might actually cause less nausea than pure mescaline in some circumstances.

What makes a tea well-prepared? I always try to ensure that there are no solid particles or oils, and I reduce the tea to a reasonable portion, usually no more than 1 cup per dose. I've consumed teas from three different cacti. One was light on mucilage, and the other two were mucilage heavy. I've taken such preparations several times at a variety of doses, and none have caused me to throw up. Only the one that was light on mucilage has given me any nausea at all, and even then, I only felt uncomfortable on one trip. That trip was my first strong mescaline experience, and I only felt particularly bad for an hour or so. Ever since then, I experience little to no nausea even with quite big doses. Note that I typically split up my doses over a 20 minute period. Everyone is different though. Some people are very prone to nausea from mescaline in any form.

BTW, the motivation for my hypothesis about mucilage is that the trip time course was very different for me using the cacti with heavy mucilage versus the one without. The cactus without mucilage gave a "fast" trip. GI effects kick in hard and peak within an hour. Body effects kick in hard and peak within two hours. Mental introspection kicks in hard and peaks by 3 hours, and the experience is fully developed with peak visuals by 4 hours. I call the mucilage heavy cacti I've tried "slow" trips. They take up to twice as long to go through these different coming-up stages. Overall, the "fast" experience feels more aggressive, stimulating, euphoric, "drug-like" and comes with more potential for nausea and stronger body energy. Overall, the "slow" experience feels more gentle, less stimulating (and sometimes even a bit sedating), more "medicinal", and feels easier on the body and GI system. The "slow" experience also seems to last a bit longer, but not by much. The "fast" experience seems to lead to more fatigue in the days after.

As can be seen, there are pros and cons to both kinds of trips. I think I'm a bit partial to the "fast" style trip, partly because my earlier strong experiences were all "fast" trips. Another reason is that the "slow" cacti, while less prone to giving me a headache afterwards, seem to leave my guts in worse condition for longer. Perhaps those cacti had more naturally occurring antibiotics, and so it took longer for my gut bacteria to recover. I'm just guessing though.

I'm actually hoping to experiment with a lot of different cacti as time goes on, and my opinions are certain to develop and change. I'll definitely try an A/B extraction on a "slow" cactus to see if the extract gives a "fast" trip instead like I think it will. Good luck to you all whatever you try.
 
I have heard nothing but good things about mesc. Do you think it would be worth all of the trouble dealing with san pedro etc; sounds kind of like adding the toxic/nausea back it? Any experience with "non synthed" mesc and if so had did that go?

CONGRATS DIDGITAL, I was a bit worried about ya. You want to put them all in a book and collab with all us other nuts. You just figure out how to keep us anonymous lol
You can dehydrate and powder the cactus and eat it by the spoonfull with lots of water.
You can make a tea.
You can boil the tea down to a 15mL shot.
You can evaporate the shot and ingest the goo balls.
You can extract the alkaloids from the shot/goo with some basic chemistry.

All of the methods will likely cause nausea, because mescaline the drug itself causes nausea. Some methods work better than others for some people. Spreading out the dose over time worked for me.

Is it worth it? Well, you've got a biased sample in this thread. We all think it is. Your mileage may vary.
 
I am like minded bias wise. (my mom speaks of mescaline as if it were a unicorn to heaven lol) *use to live in albuquerque, peyote buttons etc, but this was the late 80s and i wasn't trippin yet).

So Thank You is my answer. and I'll google of course but I assume all the same antidepressant rules apply? (i would really and so would she to take a probably last mescaline trip *maybe not for me*) But she takes 1 duloxetine per day, ill have to research that unless you just know the answer lol.

and Id like to thank chemistry the unsung unsingable here tho hero lol.
 
No one buys books anymore so why bother? My experiences are almost always reported for free somewhere.

I'm still worried but, doing so much better.

Yes I think working with cactus itself is quite rewarding if messy. You can do a dirty sanchez or bring it to pure mesc. I think there's become an easy way to get pure mescaline citrate via simple cacti extraction if you want to avoid any GI issues.

The Kichwa told me that purging is the point though. I still prefer to make my own (they very practical but they don't know everything).

First of all I am glad that you are doing better and I really hope you didn't actually seize. Don't worry, it will only stress you out. If you smoke pot hit it hard to keep your mind off bzos.

Im tellin ya benadryl at this point; unless your in the benadryl causes me RLS camp... That would suck, trazodone gave me that like a mofo.

I think you have changed my mind on the cactus issue. I am not brilliant by anymeans but I think I can figure out how to not eat raw chunks of cactus. (I feel like people failed to mention that it is extractable, or maybe they felt they weren't allowed as it does imply chemistry to an extent. (which im pretty sure is fine)

I know you are against the book idea and was mostly pullin your chain.....Who cares if people buy it as long as they read it without ill intent towards us.....seems an anthology of sorts could be more fitting. Whats my motivation? Well I just had the track/song I made mixed and mastered by a large studio and I want to shoehorn it in there somewhere....my song on an international website full of people learning how to survive there substance use: Now that is a captive audience. *Excellent* In Monte Burns Voice......

But "Best of Bluelight" doesn't really read the way id like it too. (suprise my subjective "best" is different from yours) and I do think that a book, or even a link off bluelight (w/e prefered media) that alot of people would be interested in reading about our more 'extreme' experiences. Probably even keep some darwin candidates around a couple yrs longer......I am not sure why it seems to be all on you...but 'heroes are not defined by their abilities but by their actions' (not even the quote I was looking for).

Ex. When suboxone was first becoming widely available I remember reading some dudes like ten yr struggle with it, day by day.....the whole time the same shite drum loop in the background (thankgod for mute)
 
well pellotine is in peyote buttons; not totally unrelated. If you succeed be real careful with the pellotine mescaline ratio. (says the lamens who is well aware you KNOW what you are playing with) .... Take staying alive equally as important as the science! Pellotine seems to be fairly unresearched from what I see, someone claims its not pyschoactive but thats just a reddit post.....im guessing you know more than I am about to learn in a 10 minute googl, just be safe.
 
I know I've seen a few people here suggest we need to (somehow) do some kind of media production be it a book or a movie. Here's my idea: How about a dark humored sitcom! I'm not sure what to call it. Maybe "Losers", since Winners Don't Use Drugs?
 
You can evaporate the shot and ingest the goo balls.
i thought about smuggling the goo as mud on my shoes once. I was told that's the first spot they look lmao.

I know my misadventures aren't smart, but they do seem to stimulate conversation at least.

Heh bluelight movie sounds more ridiculous than anything I've ever conceived.

Side story from the OP, I had recently proposed to a girl for the first time of my life. She said "I'm not saying no, I'm not saying yes. I'm saying maybe later" A few days later we got into some fight that blew up, and i don't wanna get too detailed but thats when i really went off the rails, and woke up and flushed my benzos. Love is weird.
 
I actually think a bluelight movie would be great, let's get hamilton or morgan freeman to narrarate, Just no faces hahahaha. Let's show Yopo trees and what not. Bluelight is an amazing place, it's my go to for actual coversation regarding any substances. I love erowid too.

FYI ecstasydata had their DEA license pulled, so currently there is no place in the US to actually get your substances tested. SHAME SHAME
 
I actually think a bluelight movie would be great, let's get hamilton or morgan freeman to narrarate, Just no faces hahahaha. Let's show Yopo trees and what not. Bluelight is an amazing place, it's my go to for actual coversation regarding any substances. I love erowid too.

FYI ecstasydata had their DEA license pulled, so currently there is no place in the US to actually get your substances tested. SHAME SHAME

Oh wow, well that is HORRIBLE. DEA licencse, that must be how they avoid being prosecuted for mailing contolled substances? I always wondered what the difference between them shipping my piss around and me shipping pods around. Now I get it.

Didgital -- Can you still order San Pedro and Peruvian torch online legally in the US. (not where to get; just is it legal still)

Haha the Burt Kreischer (sp) movie had a lot less to offer than a bluelight movie would be. Idk how the hell you would make it cohesive AT ALL if you dive down rabbit holes into peoples more exotic adventures. (and to me that is the fun part). Still say Anthology, you could movie/episode it out that way and parcel it one or two peoples stories at a time. I know I would be good for a couple shows I am pretty sure people with interest in drug use (especialy fringe drug use) would watch and get a kick out of. NO DAMN MORAL OR TAKEAWAY. Kind of like a thousand ways to die, lol "a thousand ways to stay high?" idk

I have been told I should write an autobiography about all the ish I've done a bit.....however my name means nothing. You don't buy the autobiography of the guy down the street lol.
 
Didgital -- Can you still order San Pedro and Peruvian torch online legally in the US. (not where to get; just is it legal still)
Yes it's legal, and pretty darn easy to source. Occasionally you'll see them at Lowe's or even Walmart though they are likely to be PC (predominant cultivar) and not potent. Just do a quick google search. Also if you're on Facebook there are groups where people trade and sell very exotic varieties. Last I checked "Lumberjack" was considered to be the most potent, with a whopping 5% content.

I don't think this counts as sourcing?
 
No, not sourcing. Just telling me it is still legal an what a preferable strain would be. I would have extrapolated to look for a source which you didnt give (and i dont want); I certainly hope it isnt ive edged up closer to the line than that.

oh the group thing, still ok, I dont see anything about anything but exotic varieties of cacti I assume
 
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