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Did people get high in biblical times?

yes people got high 2000 thousand years ago they also got high 15000 thousand years ago on things other than booze because poppies and shrooms for instance are wide spread and can grow in almost any enviroment
 
hydroazuanacaine said:
I'm not defending the big bang, but just think about how complex an intelligent creator would be. "there is no way in hell that could have formed by itself" ...or at least it is a lot less likely than blood clotting.

but that is not what this thread is about. i have not read anything about it, but common sense would say if the had figured fermentation out they had probably figured out tinctures and other ways of using plants to get "high."
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the idea of an intelligent creator is very complex, and is hard for us to understand. according to the Bible, John 1:1-2 to be exact:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Basically God was always existent, and it's something that our brains aren't capable of handling. It's hard to imaging a "negative infinity" but God has always existed. it's just something you gotta have faith in. there's no explanation for it.
 
If people did get high in Biblical Times, it might explain the creative language and themes in the Bible.
 
Korn3x said:
the idea of an intelligent creator is very complex, and is hard for us to understand. according to the Bible, John 1:1-2 to be exact:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Basically God was always existent, and it's something that our brains aren't capable of handling. It's hard to imaging a "negative infinity" but God has always existed. it's just something you gotta have faith in. there's no explanation for it.
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ok. you have the right to believe that. but if you practice that right, you lose the right to point out possible holes in other theories as their disproof and proof of your own. or at least the right to do so without seeming silly.
 
Apostacious said:
According to your bible, this dude named Jesus turned water into wine. So, yeah.
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I lol'd :D

OP: You refer to "biblical times" as if it's from the year 1 to 31 A.D and men walked around in cloth robes and rode donkeys while watching Jesus H. walk on water and cure leprosy...

Natural drugs have been around as long as the earth has and chemical drugs as long as men has been around to create them. I believe living creatures have been "getting high" as long as they've been around.

Like there isn't some weird plant that grew wildly in the year 25 that dinosaurs ate and got fucked up on... LOL.
 
Bardo5 said:
Cultures have been using drugs long before biblical times. Marijuana, psilocybin, dmt, and others were being used before monotheistic religion was even a concept.
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Amen. I think drug use is very VERY old. There are animals that seek out plants that seem to alter their behavior. One anthropologist I read said he thinks psilocybin mushrooms or palm tree trunks that fermented into alcohol naturally, were the first drugs people had.

I do think it's possible that the 'annointing' that's talked about in the Bible and other sources from around that time and place involved something psychedelic that was absorbed transdermally, or at least did at some point in 
 history, as part of a mystic ritual. If you know anyone named Kristen ('annointed'), ask her if she knows if her name refers to an ancient drug ritual.



I'd be more skeptical of claims that the Bible contains trip reports, though.
 
I'd say that Revelations is a pretty crazy [unintentional] trip report ;) .
(perhaps more like something like temporal lobe epilepsy, rather than any drug, though)

Also, absolutely agreed that people have been taking drugs for a very, very long time (well before biblical times! plenty more than 6,000 years for instance ;)). We just thought of them differently, is all. There's leftovers of that culture even today (spiritual sacrament from the god(s), depending on one's polytheistic or monotheistic tendencies, to help communicate with them, etc).
 
MattPsy said:
I'd say that Revelations is a pretty crazy [unintentional] trip report ;) .
(perhaps more like something like temporal lobe epilepsy, rather than any drug, though)
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I asked my mom (a Biblical scholar) about this once. She said that in the original Greek, the Book of Revelation was actually pretty meticulously composed, and some very deliberate patterns can be picked up in all the obscure symbolism. In other words, it doesn't have the haphazard quality of a piece of automatic writing (or a trip report). She agrees with scholars who say that revelation was probably a thickly coded message to the various churches, who were dispersed around the Mediterranean and under threat from Rome at the time Revelation was written.

It only comes off the way it does to us because of what's lost in translation, and because we're completely cut off from the cultural and temporal context in/for which it was written.
 
There's wine in the bible. Also Jesus allegedly used cannabis- http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=678526#post678526
I agree with people above, people have been using drugs for a long time, from intoxicants like booze and amanitas to psychedelics like psilocybin, ayahuasca and mescaline. Terence McKenna's book "Food of the Gods" talks about ancient use of drugs fairly indepth and it's a generally good read.
 
Not unless he ate the skin of the cacti as well. I think fasting for 40 days with minimal sleep would be enough to inspire psychosis anyway

I recall reading somewhere that he used marijuana during a visit to india though.
 
Korn3x said:
There's so much proof for the existence of God. The world itself is proof of his existence. There is no way that some big bang created everything, or that microorganisms arose from a "soup" that was charged by electricity from lightning. the human body is way too complex to have formed by randomization.

just look at the mechanism of blood clotting. it is so complex and precise, that there is no way in hell that it could have formed by itself.

even take a look at how atoms and molecules interact. this world was built for a purpose man.
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This argument is ridiculous. If the human body was designed by God, then God is a fucking moron. You bring up one random example--blood clotting.

Try this exercise: Explain the concept of vestigial organs (e.g., the appendix), and why God would create organs that serve no purpose.

(yes - I believe the Bible chronicles the beginning of time, or at least the beginning of humanity - let's not debate that because you won't change my mind and I won't try to change yours )
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I think Bill Hicks said it best: Dinosaur Fossils.
 
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Of course people were getting high in biblical times, which by the way stretch for many thousands of years. Also the Bible doesnt cover much of the world only the history related to Judaism. So you cant deterime what was going on over the entire world from one book.
 
The Scythians apparently toked like champs, as did a lot of people across the steppes of central Asia since time immemorial. They were around in Biblical times.

It's interesting to note that the nargile / hookah / shisha long predates the arrival of tobacco in the mideast, meaning it was probably originally used for opium ± cannabis.

Both the Passover feast in which Jews participate (the one that Jesus was participating in at the Last Supper), and the subsequent Christian Eucharist, are linked strongly to ancient rituals and mythology that likely long predate monotheism. One of them is definitely human and animal sacrifice, but another is the ritual sharing of some sort of psychedelic food or drink.
 
people of central amierica and india have used dmt and cacktus and mushrooms for thousands of years strictally as speritul and madicinal porpurses / see i use drugs all the time and never learned my abcs and 123s
 
a lot of chinese in ancient times have been smoking opium for a very long time
the people in the bwiti tribe have been using ibogaine in rituals since the beginning. one ritual is the change from boy to man.
columbians have been chewing coca leaves for a long time too
 
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