Rabidrabbit
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I'm mad I missed out on Methylone/bk-MDMA... boo hiss.
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Did I really miss out on this sub-culture of new RC's?
- Thread starter Diloadid
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I think MXE is still available in the US. Just never was big on dissociation, really. I used to love ketamine, but it got old, so I would imagine it would be the same with MXE. Rabid, I am sad too that I missed out on Methylone, I see it is still commonly available, but eh I dunno if I really want to risk obtaining some. Maybe the emergency schedule will be dissolved soon? Although I have recently gone out of my way to research which of the current phenethylamines and stimulants I would love to research.
Lady Codone
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Actually, some are complete trash while others are amazing. Just like street drugs or pharmaceuticals, no one loves or hates ALL RCs. Some of my personal faves are 4-FA, 4-HO-MET, 2-FMA and 4-EMC.
Personally I don't think people should view it in a "RC vs Real Drugs" way. It's just not accurate and gives the idea that all RCs are similar to each other yet somehow separate from street/pharmaceutical drugs. A drug's newness or legal status does not alter it's effects on your body. Some of these substances are waaay more potent and pure than similar street drugs in similar doses. For instance, my cokehead friend was blown away by methylone and 4-FA. When she offered me some coke (my first time to try it), she prefaced it by saying that "it's not as good as those chemicals you have--maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10."
Yeah.
Personally I don't think people should view it in a "RC vs Real Drugs" way. It's just not accurate and gives the idea that all RCs are similar to each other yet somehow separate from street/pharmaceutical drugs. A drug's newness or legal status does not alter it's effects on your body. Some of these substances are waaay more potent and pure than similar street drugs in similar doses. For instance, my cokehead friend was blown away by methylone and 4-FA. When she offered me some coke (my first time to try it), she prefaced it by saying that "it's not as good as those chemicals you have--maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10."
Yeah.
Lol, I just think of it like this;
some of these chemicals have probably been known about for a while, but their presence has just now been put on the forefront. I'm not debating the purity or however good they are in comparison to popular street drugs of nowadays. I just think really I missed out on 4-MMC/methylone because of the legal bindings surrounding them. And by todays standards, most stimulants are probably stronger than street coke, lol.
some of these chemicals have probably been known about for a while, but their presence has just now been put on the forefront. I'm not debating the purity or however good they are in comparison to popular street drugs of nowadays. I just think really I missed out on 4-MMC/methylone because of the legal bindings surrounding them. And by todays standards, most stimulants are probably stronger than street coke, lol.
verso
Bluelighter
^ These last two posts by Lady Codone and Diloadid hit the nail on the head.
I used to think of drugs like this: you had street drugs (potent), prescription drugs (less potent), and then fake drugs or "RCs" (not drugs at all).
I know that it sounds silly, but I just never imagined that a pill could be any more effective than, I don't know, a line of coke or shot of dope; but then I took some adderall and some oxycontin (not together) and realized that, oh shit, prescription drugs are real drugs after all. lol
I had gained a new respect for pharmaceutical drugs, but research chemicals were still just... cheesy. I mean, they couldn't possibly be any more potent than street drugs and pharmaceutical drugs; but then I took some 25i and some methylone (not together), and oh shit, I realized that research chemicals were real drugs too!
As for "missing out" on the whole research chemical thing... I don't think anyone has really missed out on it. I think Diloadid said it best:
That about sums it up. Were you the first to try it? No, and neither was I, but they're still floating around and they're still relatively "new" on the scene.
I used to think of drugs like this: you had street drugs (potent), prescription drugs (less potent), and then fake drugs or "RCs" (not drugs at all).
I know that it sounds silly, but I just never imagined that a pill could be any more effective than, I don't know, a line of coke or shot of dope; but then I took some adderall and some oxycontin (not together) and realized that, oh shit, prescription drugs are real drugs after all. lol
I had gained a new respect for pharmaceutical drugs, but research chemicals were still just... cheesy. I mean, they couldn't possibly be any more potent than street drugs and pharmaceutical drugs; but then I took some 25i and some methylone (not together), and oh shit, I realized that research chemicals were real drugs too!
As for "missing out" on the whole research chemical thing... I don't think anyone has really missed out on it. I think Diloadid said it best:
That about sums it up. Were you the first to try it? No, and neither was I, but they're still floating around and they're still relatively "new" on the scene.
Seyer
Bluelight Crew
And then theres the "brand new" RCs that will show up on the market each year.
RC's just kind of blow my mind really, because I'm sure that with the quantity of various substances that are being pushed out, one of them has to be quality. I mean, that cathinone family is pretty interesting to me. Most of the ones I've researched have horrible side-effects. Maybe though, the positives out-weigh the negatives?
my favorite RCs so far are MXE and 2c-E. I really wanna try ethylphenidate though, although i guess i can just do ritalin and drink at the same time to get that...
2c-e seems pretty interesting. Ethylphenidate as well. Surely tho the effects would differentiate between drinking with taking methylphenidate in comparison to only ethylphenidate. I'm sure the breakdown is different? Somehow.
Blanch
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2c-e... yuck! it feels like really dirty lsd to me.
Seyer
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To each their own. I personally love 2C-E. While some people are incapacitated by the bodyload at 18mg, Im flying high, running around all smiles at 40mg. Its a very strange chemical thats completely different for everyone.
deficiT
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Yeah MDPV was pretty fucking whack, methylone was just alright, and I tried meph for the first time the other night and I'd say thats the best of the three def like a mix between coke and mdmda, but it burnt like a sumbitch!!!! The best Rc's are the trippy ones like the 2c's and the tryptamines is my opinion
Lol. I'm kind of over doing psychedelics, but 6-APB seems like a pretty interesting substance. I enjoy MDA quite a bit, molecules seem similar. That is the thing with these RC's I am noticing now. So many to really pick and choose from... tsk tsk. I have heard IV MDPV is pretty intense, dunno about trying it tho~ It seems like IV'ing most any RC would be a general bad practice in harm reduction.
coelophysis
Bluelight Crew
I used to be the same way. Now I can't even think about it without gagging. The last few trips I had on it were very nauseating. Lost the magic with that one QUICK.
highhooked
Bluelighter
o yes how could I forget...ethylphenidate! Hell yeah ha It totally slipped my mind. I gotta get some.
Ethyl, alcohol and 4 fa should make for a great time. Next pay day...
Ethyl, alcohol and 4 fa should make for a great time. Next pay day...
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
It's pretty damn intense, (as is IV Mephedrone), but it's still not as insane as cocaine. However I agree, shooting any RC is not wise, and injecting MDPV left me in pretty rough shape. It's super fiendish but unlike coke, it's really long lasting, so fixing throughout the day leaves you a paranoid and delusional mess. The end result is totally not worth it. I'm kind of relieved that PV and Mephedrine is no longer available legally where I live (for myself). Those drugs are no less addictive than cocaine/crack, and their cheapness and legality made it very easy for someone with poor impulse control (like myself), to get really out of control.
Did you ever try 6-APB? If so, did you find it similar to MDA? This question can you really be answered by anybody. But IV MDPV seems like it would be insane. I guess somebody has to test the waters tho, when it comes to IV'ing RCs that way the community of RC users will be enlightened.
EPH and 4fa cancel each other out. EPH is a Dopamine reputable inhibitor, while 4fa is a dopamine releaser.
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
No, Ive actually been interested in 6-APB, and was considering buying some a while back, but decided against it because as I said, I've had very poor control over stims in general in the past (the only ones I seem to be reasonable with at D-amp and propylhexadrine). IV MDPV is similar to IV cocaine, but you don't really get a bellringer, or rather, in order to catch one, you'd have to tread into very dangerous dosages, with a ROA that is already notorious for being risky. I really wouldn't recomend MDPV to anyone, and certainly not to those who already have an affinity for IV cocaine... After 2 weeks of fixing this shit I really gained an appreciation for coke's short duration, which had been my biggest problem with it in the past.
MDPV circulates my area, for some odd reason. I do love IV cocaine (wasn't my doc), but I'm trying to stay away from the rig, so I doubt I would much like to IV MDPV. When I was in recovery, I was surprised at how many people were in there for RC related issues. One of my favorite people there was a former cocaine addict that got wide open again because of IV'ing 4-MMC/MDPV. He hyped it up quite a bit too, and bluelight only verifies what he told me.
I'd like to read a bit more on what people would consider 6-APB being close to. I really am in love with empathogens, and if it really was similar to MDA in any way/feeling, I would definitely like to research it personally.