danielsomers
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Hello All. I have worked with E a lot, threapeutically, both with others and on my own. I did last night and followed with 100 mg 5HTP and had a very bad reaction that I think must have been serotonin syndrome and would like to get your thoughts and perhaps confirmation.
I had an initial 70 mg at 6:00 and then a booster of a little more than that, maybe 80 - 90, at 8:00. It tends to wind down fairly quickly for me compared to most other people and at 1:00 am, so five hours out, I thought I was headed for sleep and that it was far enough out to take 5HTP. Big mistake! After perhaps an hour I got really sick, but it doesn't seem to quite fit descriptions I'm seeing of SS. It's actually hard to remember in detail. Really intense mental state--I kept seeing, over and over, some sort of warning a friend had posted on facebook about just what I was going through--though at that point I hadn't made the 5HTP connection in my mind, wondered if I might have developed a new and odd sensitivity to the E, or if even it was contaminated...which it couldn't really have been. Mostly I just felt awful--I can't say exactly, just really bad physically--and also had really disturbing pain around my temples and eyes, which is still there just a little over 14 hours out. (I had lasik surgery some years ago and ever since once or twice a year get a headachy-inflammation feeling in that area, feels like maybe optic nerves, but I don't know.) Then after a while I started to feel nauseaus and eventually threw up--quite a lot of liquid, more than a quart, which surprised me because I was a little concerned about not drinking enough water and hadn't consumed any I think for an hour at least. After that I was better--clearly the body wanted something to come OUT--but still pretty sick and am only just now getting close to normal function--slept all through the day.
The thing is, I didn't have any arm or leg tremors, any racing heartbeat (except maybe while vomiting, though perhaps it was there otherwise and I didn't realize it?) I suppose the mental thing about that warning--it kept coming back, like a loop that keeps relplaying, involved a certain sort of restlessness and confusion--actually, now that I write that...yes, probably so. No diarrhea, except maybe just a peep at the point of....maximal bodily effusion, orally speaking. Mostly I was pretty out of it, coming in and out of (restless) sleep, unable to understand or get a handle on it. Right, so confusion and restlessness--maybe I've answered my own question. And from what I'm seeing 5 hours out is really too soon for the 5HTP. A big lesson in carefulness and the need to plan things out meticulously and stick with it.
Please chime in if you have any thoughts. Thank you!
I had an initial 70 mg at 6:00 and then a booster of a little more than that, maybe 80 - 90, at 8:00. It tends to wind down fairly quickly for me compared to most other people and at 1:00 am, so five hours out, I thought I was headed for sleep and that it was far enough out to take 5HTP. Big mistake! After perhaps an hour I got really sick, but it doesn't seem to quite fit descriptions I'm seeing of SS. It's actually hard to remember in detail. Really intense mental state--I kept seeing, over and over, some sort of warning a friend had posted on facebook about just what I was going through--though at that point I hadn't made the 5HTP connection in my mind, wondered if I might have developed a new and odd sensitivity to the E, or if even it was contaminated...which it couldn't really have been. Mostly I just felt awful--I can't say exactly, just really bad physically--and also had really disturbing pain around my temples and eyes, which is still there just a little over 14 hours out. (I had lasik surgery some years ago and ever since once or twice a year get a headachy-inflammation feeling in that area, feels like maybe optic nerves, but I don't know.) Then after a while I started to feel nauseaus and eventually threw up--quite a lot of liquid, more than a quart, which surprised me because I was a little concerned about not drinking enough water and hadn't consumed any I think for an hour at least. After that I was better--clearly the body wanted something to come OUT--but still pretty sick and am only just now getting close to normal function--slept all through the day.
The thing is, I didn't have any arm or leg tremors, any racing heartbeat (except maybe while vomiting, though perhaps it was there otherwise and I didn't realize it?) I suppose the mental thing about that warning--it kept coming back, like a loop that keeps relplaying, involved a certain sort of restlessness and confusion--actually, now that I write that...yes, probably so. No diarrhea, except maybe just a peep at the point of....maximal bodily effusion, orally speaking. Mostly I was pretty out of it, coming in and out of (restless) sleep, unable to understand or get a handle on it. Right, so confusion and restlessness--maybe I've answered my own question. And from what I'm seeing 5 hours out is really too soon for the 5HTP. A big lesson in carefulness and the need to plan things out meticulously and stick with it.
Please chime in if you have any thoughts. Thank you!