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Benzos Diazepam Valium Withdrawal

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^seeing as its benzodiazepine withdrawal we're dealing with here, an anti-epileptic of a different class would probably be more in order
 
dokomo said:
^seeing as its benzodiazepine withdrawal we're dealing with here, an anti-epileptic of a different class would probably be more in order
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But this isn't an epileptic seizure, so tapering from a benzodiazepine like lorazepam would make sense. I was prescribed lorazepam for when I had my first xanax-induced seizure, and it worked fine. The exact reason for its working, I have no idea, but I trust my doctors to do the right thing.
 
verso said:
But this isn't an epileptic seizure, so tapering from a benzodiazepine like lorazepam would make sense. I was prescribed lorazepam for when I had my first xanax-induced seizure, and it worked fine. The exact reason for its working, I have no idea, but I trust my doctors to do the right thing.
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Anti-epileptic in the context that I used it means anti-seizure. Certainly a benzodiazepine would work, but if the person's goal is to get off of benzodiazepines, prescribing more of them isn't really the best way to go when other medications are available.
 
dokomo said:
Anti-epileptic in the context that I used it means anti-seizure. Certainly a benzodiazepine would work, but if the person's goal is to get off of benzodiazepines, prescribing more of them isn't really the best way to go when other medications are available.
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But she would be getting off of the benzodiazepines. Lorazepam is one of the more anemic benzos available, and tapering from off of lorazepam is much easier than say clonazepam or alprazolam. I think I see what you're saying, though, that there are medications out there to prevent seizures without their being benzodiazepines. That would make more sense, but I am just not sure how effective they are in preventing benzo-induced seizures. If these medications worked as well as slowly tapering off of benzodiazepines, then I imagine that they would have given me those medications at the ER. You know?
 
Be careful with codeine during benzo withdrawals. IMO, due to it's more stimulating properties as opposed to other opiates, it can lower your seizure threshold or act as a catalyst for the seizure.

I had a seizure coming off of Xanax, and it happened 30mins after I took a rather large dose of codeine to ease the chaos.
 
This might sound really, really stupid, and I am reluctant to even mention it, but uh... the OP should probably try to avoid stressful situations. I found that after kicking benzos cold-turkey, my seizure came right at the time I was most anxious. I was working on finishing a paper for one of my classes, but I wasn't sure that I would finish it on time. I became really super anxious and started to hyperventilate, and then it was lights out...

My theory is that your body has gone so long dealing with anxiety a certain way, with benzos, of course. And after quitting the benzos, your body still expects the clonazepam or alprazolam or whatever to come to the rescue once it experience anxiety. Once it realizes that no chemical is coming to the rescue to help deal with the anxiety, it short-circuits the brain.
 
You need to see a doctor man. Quitting benzodiazepenes cold turkey is not like other medications. For the sake of harm reduction you must go.
 
opiates have given me mixed effects while I've been on wd. Sometimes they help me sleep good for a change and sometimes i they give me bad insomnia now which never happened before bzwd. In general they aren't too bad, but stay away from tramadol type ones for sure. I strongly recommend against antihistamines and powerful NSAID pain relievers too. definately read up on fluroquinilone antibiotics i.e. Cipro and stay far far away from them. I took Cipro during BZ use and it will fuck with you bad.
yes, you should get to a doctor who will taper you off slowly, 200 is alot. every doctor I saw denies the existence of bzdwd and attributes my symptoms to anxiety--i must have an awesome fucking imagination to make my bicep twitch like that!
Don't take any crap from doctors that are full of shit, go out of town if you must and taper properly. A man told me the other day that the doctor he saw Cold Turkeyed him for benzos and he had a dozen seizures. Alcohol doses very regularly and in moderate amounts might be more useful than codeine, and alcohol can be seizure protective in this instance. Just make sure your dose doesn't wear off which is very difficult. But, really get to the proper doctor and get off this shit slowly.
 
as far as opiates in wd, kratom helps me a lot but i am almost 18 months off benzos. i didnt take any drugs during the acute withdrawal phase except for a couple high doses of ketamine which luckily didn't have any negative effects but looking back on that im not sure it was a smart idea.
 
Well I went to my GP first thing this morning.

He wasn't very nice, he said he felt cold towards me due to a recent complaint I made against the surgery. Anyway after urine tests he prescribed me 20mg Diazepam and to be honest I took it and I haven't felt any ease in my sypmptoms at all. They could be a placebo for all I know.

I feel at my wits end with it all tbh. I'm so fed up.
 
Well Im moving back to Ontario tomorrow,and I have been on Clonazepam,Alprazolam and Temazepam daily since about July or so.I have to get my last scripts tomorrow,and make em last,as well as amy methadone script.its gonna suck when I run out back home,Im gonna go as long as I can with my pills and script before checking into the hospital.

but with alprazolam,which Ive been maintaining on,I get the shakes and feel like I'm gonna have a seizure(since Ive had them before I know how it feels when coming on)until I throw a few mg's under my tongue.I've only taken 2.5 mg's this morning and its keeping my wd's at bay,but the OP is using Diazepam,so the w/d probably won't come on full tilt for about a week without use.especially after 200 mg's a day for an extended period.You've got to get on a taper plan OP.Benzo addiction is serious shit.
 
I'm on a three month taper with my doctor which started today. I took 20mg which is 10% of the dose I was taking a fortnight ago. I was taking 6mg xanax until 10 days ago.

So I was 10 days of taking no benzos apart from 2mg xanax sat night that I was saving for a tooth extraction.

The 20mg diazepam I took today - three hrs ago. It hasn't made me feel any better, I can't feel any difference in my symptoms.

I am at a loss as to what to do.
 
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So how are you feeling? No relief? I feel so bad for you. Please let is know if it does or doesn't get better. Good luck.
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No relief at all, and thismorning I feel ten times worse. I can't eat, I have a bad tummy and feel like I'm going to be sick.

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This is a pretty serious habit you are getting over. I don't know much about the medical system over there, but you need to A.) either go to a psychiatrist to help with a taper, or B.) see a different GP. Benzo withdrawal isn't a joke, and a doctor who is at all decent should know this.

You are going to have to explain it calmly, and be patient with them as sometimes they feel biased about the situation. Really though, you need medical help and they should recognize that.

20mg is definitely going to lower your risk of a seizure, but not your anxiety and other symptoms a whole lot. A psychiatrist will help with all the lingering anxiety with a habit like that, and help you taper at a level where you don't feel nearly as uncomfortable.

Good luck, I hope you get some help. :(

EDIT: Saw your most recent post, sorry I should have looked a little farther. I still agree with my above statments, but first I wouldld explain to your doctor that it is literally 10% of the dose that you were habitually taking. My doctor does a 5% down taper schedule, and weekly or bi-weekly depending on my anxiety. Although I doubt they will be so helpful to give you that high doses, but a dose of 50-100mg seems much more appropriate. And then tapering from there.
 
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Help you with what? Your thread title is very ambiguous, "please help me" could mean anything...
 
You should print off Dr. Ashton's manual from beno.org.uk, one of the best resources on the net, and uk based. You should return to your Dr. and explain that a normal taper is 10% per month, remind him of his duty of care and also that any previous complaint you may have made about the surgery should not impinge on his care towards you.

I'm assuming you're in the UK?

Ask your GP for an agreed reduction protocol that starts at a maintenance dose (i would say approx 60mg diazepam min). As a last resort and if he's not open to any of you suggestions say that you will have to go to A&E for treatment. If he started you on the benzos in the first place, and prescribed for over a month then he is partly to blame, and you might wish to remind him of this. You can insist to see another doctor at the surgery or your best bet, if you can afford it or have insurance is to see someone privately who will have few problems in scripting what you want.

Print out a copy of the patient's charter http://www.fipo.org.uk/pdfs/FIPO_Patient_Charter.pdfand take it with you, it will show you're serious and you know your rights. The key phrase is 'duty of care', which should remind him that regardless of your self-inflicted problem he still has a duty of care to manage your health and wellbeing - as this is also the measure the GMC use in complaints it should remind him of how poorly he treated you if a complaint is made to the GMC or PCT.

Good luck, and given how weak you must be mentally go to your GP with your partner.
Good luck and god's speed.

PAX
 
Maybe you should find another GP. Doctors can be dicks and some won't allow their patients to participate or make suggestions in their treatment.
 
Thanks everyone. My gp wouldn't help me. I'm now back in a&e on a heart monitor and the works. Heart going to fast. To hot and hurting all over. Feel like I'm going to keel over. Limbs flying all over the place when I go in to this dream like sleep state which isn't really sleep. Very strange feelings of not being really here. Never take benzos unless you plan to be on them forever :(
 
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