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Diazepam on come down question.

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Simple question, can I take diazepam to ease the come down from a roll go help sleep and relax the muscles? I think I have read that people have but what are the risks? How does it interact with the mdma? (Please can I have the 'for dummies version of the answer lol)

I sometimes find that I've been tensing my shoulder and neck muscles through a roll and it's agony the following week.
 
It's pretty safe on the tail end of a roll and might help with the muscle relaxation. The only time I got severe muscle spasms/tension was after high dosage, perhaps you're taking too much?
 
Dummies answer - its safe to take. 5mg should be enough to make you sleep, try 5 and wait about an hour before upping your dose.
 
Thanks.
I usually take about 200mg, I've tried less but below 180mg will leave me a little frustrated. Quite honestly I've not been able to test my stuff recently without being a guinea pig. Feel free to tell me off but I believe I get quality stuff here in NW UK. It's become easy to get good stuff these days.
I do work out a lot though maybe this is why I find myself tensing a lot. Plus tensing feels real nice lol.
I don't get a bad 'hangover' from mdma btw just a little tired. Usually I go swimming the next day and have a sauna to help with muscle ache.
I acquired some 20mg Diazepam from a reputable source. So I'll break them down and give it a try. I've took it before hand too 10mg to see what it's like. Didn't have any adverse side effects.
 
taking diazepam is perfectly fine. but with non-adulterated mdma you shouldn't have a problem with sleeping.
you should really test your stuff. these doses suspicously fit those for methylone, which is a lot more likely to cause sleeplessness and muscle tension than mdma.
 
Tried a few benzos coming down; etizolam I got memory loss so used diazepam instead a while after starting to come down where the bruxism is worse and getting annoying; makes you more comfortable and stops your jaw going.
 
Diazepam and clonazepam are wonderful for MDMA in my opinion. Unlike alprazolam and lorazepam, it doesn't "hit", they both sneak in... so it doesn't kill what you're feeling.

Same goes for etizolam in opinion (I haven't been able to find MDMA since I discovered etizolam) as well as (based on structure activity relationship only) clonazolam.

I can tell you that I've never had clonazepam or diazepam stunt a roll... but alprazolam for sure. Keep in mind... 5mg of diazepam is roughly equivalent to .25mg clonazepam or alprazolam. Its next to nothing... but its enough and it lasts a long time.
 
Thanks guys. This site is very helpful. Is 5mg enough then?

It's not like the pain is so bad I'm crippled after mdma lol I'm just getting old :/

Been doing mdma since 1997ish was taking way too many mitzies back then wish this site existed back then. Had some horrible come downs back in the day. I used to love the chattering jaw sensation coming up lol
 
5mg is enough to relax me and make me not care about anything, but 10mg is fine just the same. the good thing is, you can always redose if you don't have the desired effect, so starting low is a good idea. letting the tablet dissolve under your tounge makes it come on quicker if time is a factor.
 
Black said:
taking diazepam is perfectly fine. but with non-adulterated mdma you shouldn't have a problem with sleeping.
you should really test your stuff. these doses suspicously fit those for methylone, which is a lot more likely to cause sleeplessness and muscle tension than mdma.
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The UK was one of the first places to ban methylone, I don't think it's very common there anymore... As far as I'm aware methylone getting sold as MDMA is much more of a problem in the US than it is in the UK and the rest of Europe. That said testing your stuff is always a good idea. From what I know, pills and crystal in the UK are commonly cut with caffeine or amphetamine, supposedly this can make it some more potent, but also cause problems with sleeping.

I've never used diazepam before, but if I can believe the conversion charts, I'd recommend at least 10mg of diazepam. 5mg would be the equivalent of 0.5mg of etizolam or .25 of Xanax (benzos I have experience with), enough to mellow me out a bit, but not knock me out if I'm still feeling residual stimulation.
 
St3ve said:
The UK was one of the first places to ban methylone, I don't think it's very common there anymore... As far as I'm aware methylone getting sold as MDMA is much more of a problem in the US than it is in the UK and the rest of Europe. That said testing your stuff is always a good idea. From what I know, pills and crystal in the UK are commonly cut with caffeine or amphetamine, supposedly this can make it some more potent, but also cause problems with sleeping.

I've never used diazepam before, but if I can believe the conversion charts, I'd recommend at least 10mg of diazepam. 5mg would be the equivalent of 0.5mg of etizolam or .25 of Xanax (benzos I have experience with), enough to mellow me out a bit, but not knock me out if I'm still feeling residual stimulation.
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that's true, i missed that part. but it isn't impossible, even here with the flood of good pills and methylone illegal there will turn up some methylone sold as mdma every now and then. anyway, with the information of the op rolling since the 90s, i now doubt he would confuse the two.

ime the conversion charts aren't that accurate, that means ymmv. 0.5mg of alprazolam gives me comparable effects to 5mg of diazepam, which again feels rather like 1.5mg of bromazepam, while it should be 0.25 - 5mg - 3mg. maybe i'm just an outlier, but they surely aren't spot on for everyone.
 
When I have taken 5mg and then 5mg later I really wished I had just taken 10mg; I just think it would have hit better (nice) to smooth stuff out - I agree pure MDMA is very soothing but there can be the-perfectness-has-stopped : ( feeling and maybe more the jaw clench. 10mg is a medical dose, no problem with it. You need higher for any sort of recreation for most i think.
 
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