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Dexedrine first time user. need advice on heart safety (needed for exams)

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trancepeak

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Hi guys its exam week and im looking for an edge. I have a 10 mg sustained release dexedrine pill I want to try but ive been researching and it said it can kill if the user has any history of heart disease. There is heart disease in my family.

Heres why im scared....... Ive had heart palpitations in the past BUT they were from doing heavy things that I believe everyone would get palpitations from? Here they are:

1 Mdma first time and getting drunk (stimulant deppresent = holy shit heart is exploding)

2 Alcohal and pre workout containing 1.3 dimeth ( same)

3 preworkout to study for a week straight (containst 450 mg of cafeene)

After these experiences my heart had some palpitations for about a week but went back to normal after this. The mdma experience was by far the scariest though and lasted longer and at times I felt I damaged my heart for good but the pain went away. What raises more concern is number 3... it happened last week and i still have heart palpitations (not bad though). Could these things happen to me becasue i have heart problems or because they would happen to anyone (my gym friends had the same heart pains after mixing pre workouts and alcohal).

Im hesitant in trying the full 10 mg if there is a chance of death. But i still want to try it becasue of these exams. Maybe if i break the pill and take a tiny amount I would be safer? any advice on how to break the pill and how to take it? I dont have acces to more pills or smaller doses ie a 5 mg pill :(

Thanks, Im very carefull so that is why im posting, and after exams I will check with my doctor to make sure everything is okay. But I always forget becasue my heart went back to normal the other times.
 
Ive had many heart issues in the past like yours also. Taking 10mg Dex you should be absolutely fine, the only problem that your going to have is anxiety about already having pre-concerns with your heart. Dexedrine is by far the mellow-est of the amphetamine based add drugs in terms of speedy-ness IMO

You can always start out with half then if you feel comfortable taking the other half then go for it, if not just save the other half for a later date :)
 
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thanks for the reply :). I'd personally feel safer taking less. How do I do that though? My pill has these little beads in it.....do i crak the pill in half and swallow the beads? haha

Also, what can I expect? I dont want to get high or anything I just want some extra focus. And possibly pull an all nighter.
 
dont do anything weird with the pill if you dont want to get high. if you want to pull an all nighter just take it in the late evening! yeah i have been doing this for finals. Helps with adhd problems and lack of caring especially during the exam. So just take it later, essentially I take mine when I feel myself starting to get tired. If you have any other questions let me know and Ill see if i can help!
 
ok i ll take it around 3 am. my exam is at 1230 the next day. will I still feel awake? Also im not very good with drugs other than alcohal haha. will I be able to talk to people without them knowing Im on something? Also, any tips on the all nighter? Ive never done one before. And as for the heart what if it starts palpitating? just try and ride it out? thanks guys. just wanna be safe. life and marks on the line haha
 
What is your genetic history?

Does your family have a history of heart problems regardless of substances ingested? I've been doing stimulants in large doses for several years and the only 'heart' problems I've ever encountered were panic-induced due to a an overdose on 2c-e that lasted 6 months. Since then, nothing.

I've had my vitals read, blood taken, in defiance of god himself I'm healthy as a 'horse,' as it were.

Bodies vary. If you're doctor says you're okay, take it with a grain of salt but ultimately he's probably right (GP that is).

Obviously you're concerned enough about this to ask the advice of complete strangers, so maybe it's time for a break? There are better drugs out there and better drugs FOR you, in many classes and they come in all varieties. Abstinence from one substance doesn't require abstinence from all. Just be responsible.
 
Uhhh I think if you take it by 3 am you should be fine since you don't have a tolerance or anything. You might crash by the end of your exam. This is what happened to me, but I took the last upper the night before not in the am... its not that bad to crash i just go to sleep and some people i know do benzos or opiates to help with the fall.. but ya ur heart palpitating... to be honest u just gotta convince urself your probably making it up in your head... most of the time you are so paranoid or psych yourself out so it feels like its being weird. If u cant get over it just take long deep breaths and drink water. Honestly, its a risk. People can know your on something. And you will probably think they will know as dex makes you very very alert including overly paranoid. But its one of those things that you can just blame on pulling an all nighter and being tired/sleep deprivation.

just dont do that excuse a lot or all the time lol
Peace!
 
thouart_that said:
What is your genetic history?
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Yeah I was trying to get across the point that I don't and never have actually probably HAD palpitations it just feels like it or I am scared I'm having it. Also, might want to get some anti-anxiety meds like klonopin for the test. You will be anxious from the dex, and the test could be overwhelming on you
 
hmmmm makes me think twice about even doing it. dex is the only thing I have here. If I could I would try modafinil as I heard it isnt as hard.

I dont know what you mean by genetic history but I have been told that evey male on my dads side has had heart problems and my grandpa has died of a heart attack. i had palpitations like this before and gotten blood tests and seen my GP and he said I was completely fine. My guess is if I survived mixing MDMA and alcohal i could take some dex?

The mdma and alcohal was one of the most frightening experiences in my life lol. Didnt sleep has shakes. Heart was exploding in my chest. Pain went away eventuallly but i had to eat clean and up my cardio, but after a few weeks i forgot all about it.

Alcohal never casues pain. It seems to be stimulants though. (I also weight train and bodybuild so my diet is spot on......could be why i survived that? :S). Oh and naturally ofcourse. I cant imagine what steroids would do to my heart. Id hve to get an ekg before I ever thought of running something
 
judging by the way you describe your MDMA experience (all the stim overload symptoms) Dex might not be good. best thing would be to not take it for the first time before an exam, take a little bit in a less stressful environment to observe how you react to it before risking your exam marks (and possibly health)
 
Everyone told me I had that experience becasue I was drunk. So the combo is what made my heart hurt. But theres no question that I was kept up from the mdma. I got out of bed feeling as if I had slept and had a normal nights rest. I figured there was some speed mixed in but everyone else said it was pure. Who knows. I had muscle tiwtches at night and would feel cold. My gut feeling says not to take dex. I think that if my palpitations settle down by thursday night. Then I'll take it.
 
ok its that time. Im still having heart palpitations but i need to stay up. Im thinking of cracking open the pill and pouring about a quarter of half of the beads into an empty glucosamine pill to take it and waiting an hour to see if it affects me.....smart or no?
 
smart, that way if you're feeling fatigued before the test you can reup

and as for hearts, people drop dead all the time, even young kids in football etc. For the most part if your heart has a weakness, you wont get to learn about it because you are dead. Its kind of fatalistic, but theres not much you can do about a congenital defect.

Also, in the future if you decide to stim, taking a blood thinner can help. Fish oil is supposed to have a blood thinning property, so does alcohol and aspirin.
 
gaktattack said:
smart, that way if you're feeling fatigued before the test you can reup

and as for hearts, people drop dead all the time, even young kids in football etc. For the most part if your heart has a weakness, you wont get to learn about it because you are dead. Its kind of fatalistic, but theres not much you can do about a congenital defect.

Also, in the future if you decide to stim, taking a blood thinner can help. Fish oil is supposed to have a blood thinning property, so does alcohol and aspirin.
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Ended up taking a long hard look at the pill and flushed it down the toilet lol. Im too scared. I may try it in the future when my heart is completely pain free and my doc has ran some tests. And alcohal mixed with a stimulant? Thats a one way ticket to snapping the shit out of your heart lol. you're right about the fish oil though.

I ended up taking a cafeene pill and strangely enough my heart calmed down. I ll ride this out on caffeene. First all nighter ever. Getting a lot done. Im pretty surprised. Thanks guys
 
Your experiance with MDMA/alcohol sounds like SVT(supraventricular tachycardia). It's basically where your heart rate is over 100, often around 200. It is caused by some drugs and alcohol. It can be scary and be very uncomfortable, but is not dangerous. I've had this, from adderall then caffeine/ephedrine the next day, thought I was having a heart attack. Went to the hospital, go bitch at about the adderall(which was prescribed, didn't believe me) like I was a fucking tweaker. My heart is fine. I don't have an EKG to test you, but I think this might be what you experienced.

trancepeak said:
Ended up taking a long hard look at the pill and flushed it down the toilet lol. Im too scared. I may try it in the future when my heart is completely pain free and my doc has ran some tests.
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Damn you, that's real drug abuse;)! Sorry, just pissed that my bitch ass docs won't give my ass some adderall anymore.

If you are young, don't have other risk factors, like high blood pressure or obesity, and people in your family don't get heart disease at your age, then I think your overreacting.How's your blood pressure on dexedrine? not heart rate.

Still better to be safe than sorry.
 
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