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Dexamphetamine is a straight street drug

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D-amp really has very little pratical, reasonable medical use, apart from REAL narcolepsy. I'm amazed it's still around after 70 years of massive abuse-probably second only behind Valium, but seems to be scripted regularly in Oz WA.

It produces strong, racy, speed reactions in a short time after being taken, and this makes it a prime street drug-pure pharmaceutical speed.

I take Ritalin and was given Dex once for a month. Just 15 mgs had me bouncing around like the energiser bunny.

I have met people who take high doses to get buzzing before going out partying.
 
Well that depends on how you feel about ADD as a medical condition.

I'm personally of the opinion that ADD does exist (although is probably over diagnosed), and for treating ADD I'd imagine dexamphetamine is a far superior to methylphenidate or any of the other alternatives. I've known people who've had their life improved substantially with ADD treatment.

Yes, it's abuseable, but that doesn't negate the medical potential. Should we deprive people of medication that improves their quality of life because other people abuse the same medication? That's absurd.
 
i actually know someone with severe narcolepsy, and cataplxia [spelling. loses all muscle control when she laughs, goes totally limp with her eyes rolling in the back of her head]. the narco' is pretty disabilitating when she misses even one dose time. and she has some pretty good stories that i cant be fucked typing...

anyway, she has the stuff thrown at her in a huge number, 2 varieties probably a high dose and low dose, and has a huge stockpile around so shes a trooper when all other sources are dry. my god iv got pretty fucked of that stuff! what good times...

what was that you were saying about abuse again??
 
I agree with crankinit. Definitely has medical value, but obviously easy to abuse too.

nods said:
I'm amazed it's still around after 70 years of massive abuse-probably second only behind Valium
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Any basis for this? Do you mean just out of pharmaceuticals? Still would've thought opiates are right up there
 
I've been prescribed (getting re-prescribed soon) for D5 and it helped me through school now it helps me through work, keeps me awake and every now and then I have it just for fun. ;)

Biggest comedowns though. Lower than the high which requires a downer to stop one from topping. Hating life coming down from 25mg at work this evening; had to ring in alprazolam. :|

Certainly has legitimate uses... and certainly has a fantastically subsidised price. (thanks to the PBS in australia - price edited out)
 
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Yeah the comedown is brutal. But thankfully short-lived compared to meth.
 
Dexedrine

"keeps me awake and every now and then I have it just for fun."

YES EXACTUALLY my point, Johnny cash did so too in 1958, and guess what-he felt good, had an electricity flowing thru him and could work for long hours. 1959-1967, he Elvis abused the tabs. At his worst cash was taking ~100, 5mg tabs daily, and mixing it with with Meprobamate and booze-he looked like a meth head during this time. He'd take 60mgs and the demons would tell him to take another 40mg. he developed parkinsons later on, due to his amphetamine abuse.
 
It's all about using it as prescribed and not chasing a 'high/buzz' from them. I get my daily scripted amount of dex each day so abuse isn't possible, though I have abused them in the past.

They're of great therapeutic/medical benefit for myself.

Ritalin has a large abuse potential also, considering most people find it's actually more euphoric than d-amp when insufflated or IVd (I do not recommend this). So I don't really understand what this thread is saying? or asking?
 
"The great mathematician Paul Erdos was fond of his dexies too - check out "The man who loved only numbers" "

Erdos was the greatest mathmatician of our time, all he cared about was math-Nasa employee and the mathematician against which all were judged.

He didn't take Dex thou, remember this guy was multiplying 3 digit numbers mentally at age 3. he lived with his Mom till he was 60yo, she died, he went to his Dr for depression, and was given Benzedrine and or Ritalin in 1971. he took these everyday for 25 years till he dropped dead while lecturing.

His collegue bet him to quit the pills for 1 month. he did but his brain shut down, he couldn't work. After the month he continued the pills and continued his work.
 
I will most strongly advocate the continued prescription of dexamphetamine for medicinal purposes.

ADD/ADHD is most certainly a genuine medical condition and one which i suffer with personally.

I'll give you a small snippet of personal insight so you can judge if we are all just faking it to get bucket loads of a "party drug".

Prior to being prescribed dexies many years ago, i suffered from racing thoughts, constant inattention, my mind flicking between 6 things at once...this made it extremely difficult for me to sleep at night.

All my life i'd never had a good nights sleep. Dexamphetamine slows my mind down, allowing me to put one thought infront of the other instead them all just flooding in at once. Basically, amongst other things, DEXIES LET ME SLEEP. Thats right, Not only do have no trouble sleeping on dex, I actually find it much easier. You cant imagine how much life has improved because of this.

Have a second thought before you say..ban dexies, theres no need, they're all fakers.(Im thinking of YOU Martin Whitely member of the Legislative Assembly in WA and all round CUNT)
 
Dextroamphetamine is just a stereoisomer of amphetamine so in that sense it pretty much is a 'straight street drug'. Not sure why that would automatically be assumed to negate any medical value it has though.

I'm of the opinion that amphetamine analogues are over prescribed (especially to kids), but in saying that, I do believe ADD/ADHD is a real condition that can be greatly helped with medications such as this. There's also research into it's potential benefits as a treatment for methamphetamine dependence.

I also think a lot of people who abuse meth/amphetamines are self medicating to some extent. Despite it perhaps seeming 'obvious' that people with chilled out personalities tend towards uppers and vice versa, to compensate for whatever they're 'lacking', in reality I find the opposite is true. The iceheads I know (including myself) seem to tend towards having highly strung, anxious personalities naturally, and meth/amphetamines can seem to level that out. I know that personally, being high on meth is the only time I ever feel truly 'still' and comfortable.
 
Im such a noob when it comes to scientific research with some pharms but what i never understood is that ADD/ADHD people are hyperactive so why would one give them speed to make them more so? Id give em a good dose of opiates or benzos to help calm em down.
 
Sustanon said:
Im such a noob when it comes to scientific research with some pharms but what i never understood is that ADD/ADHD people are hyperactive so why would one give them speed to make them more so? Id give em a good dose of opiates or benzos to help calm em down.
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Nahh. In people with true ADD/ADHD, the frontal portion of the brain, the bit responsible for higher order/executive functions is underactive. Its the part of the brain that puts the brakes on everything else going on, allows for organisation and undivided attention etc. The reason why ADHD kids are perceived as hyperactive is because they cant focus on one thing at a time. They have no impulse control, they dont ever stop to think...because they cant.

Amphetamine and other psychostimulants speed up the brain, in particular the frontal cortex. So on dexies, this part of the brain functions at a level comparable to the rest. It sort of balances you out. You can now organise thoughts, instead of having them all flood in at once. It's counterintuitive i know but it makes sense when you think about it.
 
oh I see now, looking at his post history, he uses ritalin, which is mainly used in children
 
Sustanon said:
Im such a noob when it comes to scientific research with some pharms but what i never understood is that ADD/ADHD people are hyperactive so why would one give them speed to make them more so? Id give em a good dose of opiates or benzos to help calm em down.
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What ignatius said, I'll just expand by saying that it's theorized dopamine plays a large role in ADD/ADHD.
 
^I read somewhere in the last couple of years that a possible reason for ADHD is faulty dopamine reuptake pumps - that in some people these reuptake pumps continuously leak dopamine into the synapse. Taking drugs that affect these pumps (like dex, ritalin) will actually completely block the faulty pumps - hence effectively lowering dopamine concentrations in the synapse (opposite to what normally happens with these drugs).

Interesting theory.. dunno how likely that is but sounds plausible
 
^^ Wouldn't that mean a dopamine antagonist (since they also block dopamine receptors) would work just as well or better (being antagonists rather than agonists like amphetamines) for ADHD..?
 
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