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How bad are citric acids on the veins? I guess that could be a stupid question cause my own assumption is that they are very bad, but then again I've been wrong many times that I've assumed something hahahaha!
 
DavisK4high247 said:
The Uk gets all #3 heroin base, and have to mix an acid and all that to shoot it, they do not get #4 heroin like us and I guess the #3 base smokes better ,I know it smokes better than #4 as it is heroin Hcl, made for injecting and snorting, and that #3 is more for smoking and not water soluble without adding citric acid or some vinegar or some acidic stuff..nasty stuff to inject I bet..A lotta those middle eastern cats call #3 base "smoking heroin" I guess becasue it smokes better than #4 as it (#3) is less refined and is a base, and is usually from what I read 60% pure or less at kilogram amounts..
Glad we get #4 here In the US, fuck some low purity #3 I say!! .lol
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True but Its all cut so much I would bet that if you put a UK dime next to a US dime they would be pretty even as far as purity. It cracks me up because I run into ppl all the time while coping and they always complain about how much is in the pack and how so an so has bigger packs. It doesnt fucking matter I would try and tell em, its all cut down to around between 5-15% anyway. You can get the tiniest pack and it could blow away a big fat pack. In Thailand I was getting pure #4 out in the jungle and I was so scared to do up the tiniest amount for fear of ODing. I had to start with a pencil head and work my way up to the right amount. Ppl were dying all the time up in Mae Sai, tourists that is, trying to shoot their normal amount like they were back home. Shit was incredible:| Fact is #4 HAS to be cut to be able to handle it. Someone trying to divi up nickel packs of pure #4 would have a hell of a time cause it would be such a minuscule amt of dope. The cut itself acts as a carrier really, like LSD, pure LSD needs blotter paper or the like because the pure drug itself is so small in regular dosing quantity.

Good lord I love reading and talking drugs. Only thing better is getting high, reading and talking drugs. I think Ill go cop.
 
Yeah I totally agree with you pigpen. A lot of people are idiots when it comes to dope. I was at one of my spots the other day and the dude was offering your money back if you didn't like it, but of course he was only doing that cuz he knew the shit was actually good that day.
Well one guy that was at the spot was trying to tell the dealer that he doesn't even need to give testers and that he can do it himself by mixing the dope with water and seeing what color it turns into. I was too sick to tell him he was a complete fucking moron.
I also love how people think when they get dope and its rocked up and not powder that it must by 100% pure and try saying that "yeah man I had this dope that was shitty man it was probably only like 60% pure" and when I tell em that dope thats even 60% pure would probably kill you even if you only did a fraction of your normal dose with average street dope. They don't wanna believe that the dope they get is only like 10% pure max.
I read a book about the Young Boys Inc. that ran detroit's dope game in the 70's and 80's based mainly on the west side and the Jeffries Projects. They claimed to get near pure dope in kilo amounts and would cut it down 10 times, making 1 kilo into 10 kilos and that the shit was so strong they'd have to put a 2 pack maximum to each customer and when customers would end up with more than that they'd end up dying in their cars by the spot.
A lot of shit in Detroit is rocked up and I guess a lotta people don't realize that heroin is rerocked just like coke to make it look like your getting the shit how it comes from columbia.
One thing I do like about Detroit over other cities though, is the fact that most street dealers don't cut the shit themselves. I mean you will get that shady fuck of a dealer every once in a while, but 9 out of 10 dealers I've ever had sell the shit how they get it, cuz theres money to be made just by breaking the shit down and they know its been cut enough times already. You make more money selling good shit than you do selling bad shit. When it comes to dope quality definitely wins over quanity. I have had dealers though that break the shit down to powder and cut it. Thats why I hate buying lotto tickets cuz its usually powder and probably cut down even more.
1 guy I bought from I heard put a lil coke in the dope. Not a lot, just a tiny bit. I'm guessing for the rush factor. But a lot of people I know would do the dope and end up dropping dirty for coke too. Whenever he would accidently fuck up the amount of cut he put in it. He'd do three packs for the price of 1.
Have any other detroiter's realizing that packs have gotten smaller? The quality is the same, it just seems to have gotten like 2 to 3 times smaller. And its been rare to find anyone that doesn't strictly sell tenths now. I guess a lotta guys are trying to cut down on the amount of traffic comin thru their spots and also trying to eliminate those chippers that only come down for 1 pack.
Qualities finally picking up again though. Just gotta stay on the move with who your getting it from. I know one guy who had an ounce of some fire. 2 hours later he was down to his last 5 packs. The good shits going fast cuz everyone knows its kind of hard to come by right now. I guess thats the name of the game right now, though.
Ill shut up now, with my long winded posting ass.
 
pigpen1968 said:
Im curious, do you ever see tar in the SW? It being Meican Town and all I would think their would be some floating around. I personally have never once seen tar in Michigan except that one time I came back from Mexico.

Its as if some great God of Poppies has declared there will be no tar East of the Mississippi and no powder West. Although I did used to get some brown chunk in Oakland about 13 yrs ago otherwise it was all tar, I hate that shit. Fucking Mexicans need to hire some Asian cooks. Shooting that tar garbage into your arm, you mind as well drink their water too while your at it.
(BTW, I love Mexico and their ppl, and even their tar when I cant get anything else) (Juseus Malverde is always in my heart)
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I have never seen tar in the S.W. side, or mexican town whatever you want to call it. I know a couple of people who get tar in Toledo though. Don't understand why its there but not in detroit.
 
Good post EZ, I agree except where Im at on East Side near GrandB I havent seen anything but nickels. I should probably beat the streets and look for something better. Theres only two spots that ppl have been using for years now over here. Everytime I try a new guy its always crap though. Its nice to go with what you know, even if you do know that its not going to be the shit every time.

I hear ya about the rocked up shit. I see it and I get a big hard on but its no different than the rest, it sure looks good in that big brown chunk form though.

I gotta go hit the safe points bus at 1.

Bearded 1, thats what the SW side is called, Mexican Town, its not a derogatory thing.
 
Pigpen, I know its not derogatory. But someone after your post asking me about the S.W. said tar was mainly west of rockies so I put mexican town in there too to just make sure everyone new it was sw detroit and is called mexican town. Its mostly mexican people there and I thought there would be tar there too. There are some awesome places to eat there before you cop too!
Be safe everyone!
 
E A z y said:
Yeah I totally agree with you pigpen. A lot of people are idiots when it comes to dope. I was at one of my spots the other day and the dude was offering your money back if you didn't like it, but of course he was only doing that cuz he knew the shit was actually good that day.
Well one guy that was at the spot was trying to tell the dealer that he doesn't even need to give testers and that he can do it himself by mixing the dope with water and seeing what color it turns into. I was too sick to tell him he was a complete fucking moron.
I also love how people think when they get dope and its rocked up and not powder that it must by 100% pure and try saying that "yeah man I had this dope that was shitty man it was probably only like 60% pure" and when I tell em that dope thats even 60% pure would probably kill you even if you only did a fraction of your normal dose with average street dope. They don't wanna believe that the dope they get is only like 10% pure max.
I read a book about the Young Boys Inc. that ran detroit's dope game in the 70's and 80's based mainly on the west side and the Jeffries Projects. They claimed to get near pure dope in kilo amounts and would cut it down 10 times, making 1 kilo into 10 kilos and that the shit was so strong they'd have to put a 2 pack maximum to each customer and when customers would end up with more than that they'd end up dying in their cars by the spot.
A lot of shit in Detroit is rocked up and I guess a lotta people don't realize that heroin is rerocked just like coke to make it look like your getting the shit how it comes from columbia.
One thing I do like about Detroit over other cities though, is the fact that most street dealers don't cut the shit themselves. I mean you will get that shady fuck of a dealer every once in a while, but 9 out of 10 dealers I've ever had sell the shit how they get it, cuz theres money to be made just by breaking the shit down and they know its been cut enough times already. You make more money selling good shit than you do selling bad shit. When it comes to dope quality definitely wins over quanity. I have had dealers though that break the shit down to powder and cut it. Thats why I hate buying lotto tickets cuz its usually powder and probably cut down even more.
1 guy I bought from I heard put a lil coke in the dope. Not a lot, just a tiny bit. I'm guessing for the rush factor. But a lot of people I know would do the dope and end up dropping dirty for coke too. Whenever he would accidently fuck up the amount of cut he put in it. He'd do three packs for the price of 1.
Have any other detroiter's realizing that packs have gotten smaller? The quality is the same, it just seems to have gotten like 2 to 3 times smaller. And its been rare to find anyone that doesn't strictly sell tenths now. I guess a lotta guys are trying to cut down on the amount of traffic comin thru their spots and also trying to eliminate those chippers that only come down for 1 pack.
Qualities finally picking up again though. Just gotta stay on the move with who your getting it from. I know one guy who had an ounce of some fire. 2 hours later he was down to his last 5 packs. The good shits going fast cuz everyone knows its kind of hard to come by right now. I guess thats the name of the game right now, though.
Ill shut up now, with my long winded posting ass.
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Man I know dope is cut,but the cops and DEA analyze dope off the street and the average purity in some areas is 70-80% retail, and 20-30% in others. The dope including low % dope and pure dope averages out at over 35% in the US. Their are regualar seizures in Memphis of street level amounts of heroin that are well over 50% on avg. and larger amounts 90% or so.. I have been to Thailand 12 years ago and have sampled the pure #4 SEA dope and I know that its a whole different ballgame to the dope here, but dope has been above 10% in the US since 1980..Average purity of grams of dope are different from city to city and from dealer to dealer..But it's a lot purer than 10-15%, at least in the US according to Forensic labs, Police labs, DEA labs etc.. and individual labs monitor the purity of street dope , and it's not as high as most people think most places, but it is 30-40% at least on average..Some places twice that, but I agree if you are used to doing 1/10th of a gram of 30% pure heroin and you inject a 1/10th of 60% pure heroin you will OD, unless you have a high tolerance already , but the average user if they are used to getting really high off a shot of 30% pure heroin as an example and they do a shot of the same amount that is 60% pure then an Overdose will happen!! Later on i'm high and ready to lay down..lol..
 
most of the dope here in Ohio is tar, and I think that the Toledo tar comes from here in Columbus

kinda strange, yes, how one state North (Michigan) it's all powder and no tar
 
curious about my side

ok so iwas excited to try out the dope here cause i did about a year ok and it was fire been out in vegas for past year and it was all tar aka black it was ok the real good shit burned dark red mmmmmmm but for the most it was pry about 40% i shot it once and puked all day the person i was with thought i was gonna od lol needless to say i stayed with my reynolds one less charge too even though i was selling about 40 dimes a day but anyway im back in mi and have detoxed and been clean for 2 weeks just got quite a good job and will probobly walk around the eastside until i find some i know i know i should be scared but after what ive already been through im not you just have to know how to carry yourself and not act like a lil B*tch lol my worst fear is a f*cking crackhead taking my 20 and dippin leaving me with that so close feeling but anywho back to what i was getting at someone i know just od'd i dunno if it was from to much or from bad cut anyone know if bad dope is going around and if i sniff a pack will it get me high? keep in mind i smoked a gram a day sometimes one and a half if i wasnt smoking weed too. what are the percentages ill find some if i "beat the grass w a stick"?
 
TylerE. said:
shit im the biggest junky here


"I injected some black tar heroin a couple weeks ago, i felt it oozing into my veins and then I kinda just saw fairies telling me to lay down in bed, well long story short, I think I choked and died cause I kinda have flashes of being in an ambulance and im posting this from the ER, this one bitch in here keeps staring at me and I yelled at her "YOU CANT HAVE MY HEROIN BITCH" and she she yelled back "FUCK YOU DIRTY CRACKHEAD"
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HAHAHAHA i had a similar experience you should have seen the guys face when i told him i smoked at least ten times a day (more like f*kin 20) i was so high when he asked me how i afforded it i actually told him i sold it AND they had picked me up from my hotel room lol
 
DavisK4high247 said:
Man I know dope is cut,but the cops and DEA analyze dope off the street and the average purity in some areas is 70-80% retail, and 20-30% in others. The dope including low % dope and pure dope averages out at over 35% in the US. Their are regualar seizures in Memphis of street level amounts of heroin that are well over 50% on avg. and larger amounts 90% or so.. I have been to Thailand 12 years ago and have sampled the pure #4 SEA dope and I know that its a whole different ballgame to the dope here, but dope has been above 10% in the US since 1980..Average purity of grams of dope are different from city to city and from dealer to dealer..But it's a lot purer than 10-15%, at least in the US according to Forensic labs, Police labs, DEA labs etc.. and individual labs monitor the purity of street dope , and it's not as high as most people think most places, but it is 30-40% at least on average..Some places twice that, but I agree if you are used to doing 1/10th of a gram of 30% pure heroin and you inject a 1/10th of 60% pure heroin you will OD, unless you have a high tolerance already , but the average user if they are used to getting really high off a shot of 30% pure heroin as an example and they do a shot of the same amount that is 60% pure then an Overdose will happen!! Later on i'm high and ready to lay down..lol..
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I dont know man, I have a hard time believing that your average pack of dope here in the States is anywhere near even 30%. When Ive had the pure shit, what would equal a dime there was in no way a third of a dime pack here. It was so small you would have a hard time even handling it to put it in a pack. The uncut #4 NEEDS the cut just so it can be handled. Im no chemist, Im just going by what Ive seen, and what Ive seen is a $5 amount of #4 could fit on a sharpened pencil head. Ive also read many times of dope of the #4 quality being stepped on 10 to 1. Theres just no way pure #4 only gets 2 grams of cut for every one gram of raw which by my figuring would make it 30% pure. Also take into account that #4 is usually about 90% not 100, but that wouldnt make a whole lot of difference in our discussion.
 
DavisK4high247 said:
Man I know dope is cut,but the cops and DEA analyze dope off the street and the average purity in some areas is 70-80% retail, and 20-30% in others. The dope including low % dope and pure dope averages out at over 35% in the US. Their are regualar seizures in Memphis of street level amounts of heroin that are well over 50% on avg. and larger amounts 90% or so.. I have been to Thailand 12 years ago and have sampled the pure #4 SEA dope and I know that its a whole different ballgame to the dope here, but dope has been above 10% in the US since 1980..Average purity of grams of dope are different from city to city and from dealer to dealer..But it's a lot purer than 10-15%, at least in the US according to Forensic labs, Police labs, DEA labs etc.. and individual labs monitor the purity of street dope , and it's not as high as most people think most places, but it is 30-40% at least on average..Some places twice that, but I agree if you are used to doing 1/10th of a gram of 30% pure heroin and you inject a 1/10th of 60% pure heroin you will OD, unless you have a high tolerance already , but the average user if they are used to getting really high off a shot of 30% pure heroin as an example and they do a shot of the same amount that is 60% pure then an Overdose will happen!! Later on i'm high and ready to lay down..lol..
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This is a nickel I just picked up. Id say its about average from all the others I get. Some a little smaller some a little bigger but its about average, the norm. Im havin a hard time believing that that is 1/3 real shit. If I took 1/3 of this size pack from some of the stuff I had used in SEA it might not have killed me but would have definitely put me in a serious nod, like a $40 nod by USA street standards. Im not tryin to be a dick Davis, Im more curious why we have such different ideas on what purity is. Is the current DEA or cops dope purity tests different than others, different than the older tests. Has the mean changed? (I believe 'mean' is the right word) or average. I dont doubt your insight Davis, you seem to know more than I do when it comes to purity levels, Im just going by what Ive seen.
 

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^^davis seems to know about everything everywhere..you haven't noticed that yet?

brandonlkj said:
ok so iwas excited to try out the dope here cause i did about a year ok and it was fire been out in vegas for past year and it was all tar aka black it was ok the real good shit burned dark red mmmmmmm but for the most it was pry about 40% i shot it once and puked all day the person i was with thought i was gonna od lol needless to say i stayed with my reynolds one less charge too even though i was selling about 40 dimes a day but anyway im back in mi and have detoxed and been clean for 2 weeks just got quite a good job and will probobly walk around the eastside until i find some i know i know i should be scared but after what ive already been through im not you just have to know how to carry yourself and not act like a lil B*tch lol my worst fear is a f*cking crackhead taking my 20 and dippin leaving me with that so close feeling but anywho back to what i was getting at someone i know just od'd i dunno if it was from to much or from bad cut anyone know if bad dope is going around and if i sniff a pack will it get me high? keep in mind i smoked a gram a day sometimes one and a half if i wasnt smoking weed too. what are the percentages ill find some if i "beat the grass w a stick"?
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Its called punctuation fool..you know commas and periods..you should try it sometime
And don't double post either
 
pigpen1968 said:
This is a nickel I just picked up. Id say its about average from all the others I get. Some a little smaller some a little bigger but its about average, the norm. Im havin a hard time believing that that is 1/3 real shit. If I took 1/3 of this size pack from some of the stuff I had used in SEA it might not have killed me but would have definitely put me in a serious nod, like a $40 nod by USA street standards. Im not tryin to be a dick Davis, Im more curious why we have such different ideas on what purity is. Is the current DEA or cops dope purity tests different than others, different than the older tests. Has the mean changed? (I believe 'mean' is the right word) or average. I dont doubt your insight Davis, you seem to know more than I do when it comes to purity levels, Im just going by what Ive seen.
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I was getting stuff over the summer that was about a 1 on a 1/10 quantity scale. The bags were tiny, like 1/5 of the size of the bag in the pic, I remember because I was saying that the bundle was really the size of like 2 bags. It was really white, and although I sniffed it, I know it turned dark from when I licked a little off the inside of the glassine bag.

It had to have been the most pure stuff I got, because although I was dissapointed at the size, I was straight nodding off of what would be 1 decent line. So I agree with you about the percentages seeming to be off. I would think that what I got was damn near pure, so given that it seemed to be atleast 2x as strong as my other dope, you would figure that the dope is usually just below the 50% mark. However, back in 2006 dope seemed to be stronger on average, so I could see it being above %50 back then.
This is in NY btw.
 
chinky said:
um no we won't..stop trying to make yourself feel better by thinkin that we are gonna run dry..where not a bunch of wankers everybody knows america loves it drugs..if anything and there was a drought like you claim, america would be the first on the list to get the product and you lesser countries would be shit out of luck..we are the number 1 consumer of all drugs, so why would they fuck us over? they wouldn't.. why please the 5 people in ireland who do dope when you have 50 people in america to take care of



if anything west of the rockies doesn't get the powder but between the rockies and the river I would guess its more powder then tar with texas being the exception..and east of the river has plenty of tar its just certain pockets of it, its not prevalent like powder
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i think the uk does consume more heroin than the usa on official figures of 30-35 tons a year vs 22-25 tons a year hard to belive i know but before drought heroin is much cheaper than usa on the gram to kilo amounts
 
4x4ledbury said:
i think the uk does consume more heroin than the usa on official figures of 30-35 tons a year vs 22-25 tons a year hard to belive i know but before drought heroin is much cheaper than usa on the gram to kilo amounts
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Im curious where you got the stats from, do you remember? Im just curious.

It would be interesting to compare purity levels between the two. I also wonder how Portugals heroin is now that its been legalized for around 10 years now. I wonder if its gotten any better, not that Ive been there or had any. Im just wondering how legalization has affected prices and purity levels. I would think it would either get cheaper or better quality, or both.
 
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