Opioids detoxing after hospital stay - advice?

[The Doc.]

I wasn't trying to argue or say you said anything wrong at all.
I completely agree with everything you have said, and can relate to almost all of it
I was just trying to reiterate what you said to stress it to the OP.
Sorry if i came off wrong with that post.

All good my friend I just wanted to day that yes I do mean it in that way I know its possible for an addict to be in recovery if they put their mind to it but will always be in revovery for as long as they live. I know what you mean I wish I could beat every person over the head and call them stupid who is playing around with oxy not even realizing how strong this drug actually is and how many lives its ruined. Oxy is synthetic heroin after all.
I don't think k we will ever get through to the OP though he will have to learn the hard way I suppose or who knows maybe he's the exception to addiction.
Thanks I can relate to a lot of what you said I've lived a struggle since age 14 also never had a stable life.

 

[The Doc.]

Continuing to use especially with the mind frame u have will set u up for addiction. And honestly ur behavior is already going that way...u showed a willingness to get thru the w/ds but ended up rationalizing more use.
Once an addict always an addict IS correct. And count urself lucky that u haven't come to this conclusion yet. And by that I am not talking about an addicts actions or lack of moral character. What I mean is that once ur brain is addicted to opiates and u have suffered through w/d. Ur brain is now wired in a way that just one or two days of use will require u to again go thru w/d.
And each time, the symptoms become more and more severe. U learned this already by having to w/d after pain medication was prescribed to u in the hospital. And if ur w/ding again right now... I'm sure u understand. I hope u seek our support in that case. I am not judging u in fact I am trying to save u from further (and trust me worst ) suffering. Please feel free to PM me if u need some advice. I am no one to judge. I wish u a furthered successful recovery.

I don't think he wants to believe he's addicted so I wouldn't try to get him to understand it people usually need to figure it out themselves things like addiction is hard for people to understand. You are right we don't judge we are simply looking out for the OP cause he reminds us of what we were like before becoming full blown addicted how we thought we could show people we can use and not get hooked and justifying why we continue to use the whole time.

 

[IllicitOne]

i view it differently than you guys. taking 30mg didnt reset my withdrawls at all, no symptoms. i have been through them twice. this time was mild as i stated, the time before sucked. So yes, Hdouble, I have gone through them.

I don't know if i could be labeled an addict or not. I used them every day for 2 months. Did I think I was addicted? No, Im sure no one does the first time. Did I realize I was addicted when I went through withdrawals? Yes.

Do I still enjoy opiates? Yes. Do I think Im an addict? No. Do I know this is dancing with the devil? Yes.

Trainspotter, though the two are similar in chemical nature, no they are not the exact same substance. Though they do share a similar chemical structure, Heroine has added CH3 and O bonds (chemistry). No doubt they are chemically similar, but they are not the exact same.

Im sorry you guys got into drugs so young and continued the use for so long. I came here for a question on withdrawals, and Ive been told some horror stories. Our lives are not in the same spot. Im 23, about to graduate with a degree in electrical engineering from a good school, I dont have kids, Im not presently addicted to a substance, I have my life in order (aside from this injury). Im not gloating, or trying to be disrespectful of your life choices in any way, but trying to push me into the mold you were at is improper. Due to our differing ages at times of use and the longevity, were all different. Even you two arent at the same spot.

You guys can believe you are always going to be an addict and once an addict always an addict and life sucks and woe is me (when/if you stop) or you can think damn, I came through a lot and beat that and Im NO LONGER ADDICTED.

Its my belief saying your always an addict is a cop out. If you want to believe that who am I to tell you otherwise, youre obviously much deeper into the game than I ever was. I do NOT understand an addiction of the length of you two because youre right, I never had that. Just as you cant understand (albeit, probably better than the reverse) an addiction as short as mine. That sentence was worded weird, apologies but I hope it gets across.

Thanks for your continued support. This drug has ruined lives, Ive had friends who were in similar situations in terms of length of use and it fucked them. I seem to be able to control it better than others. Dont believe me? I dont care. Im not saying Im better than you, I just have been able to manage my self control up to this point. Believe in me or dont, makes no difference.

Thanks sarah for the good wishes, should be 100% by august, hopefully earlier. W/ds are over, Im stoked, made it back to school, got through it. Thanks bluelight

 

[The Doc.]

i view it differently than you guys. taking 30mg didnt reset my withdrawls at all, no symptoms. i have been through them twice. this time was mild as i stated, the time before sucked. So yes, Hdouble, I have gone through them.

I don't know if i could be labeled an addict or not. I used them every day for 2 months. Did I think I was addicted? No, Im sure no one does the first time. Did I realize I was addicted when I went through withdrawals? Yes.

Do I still enjoy opiates? Yes. Do I think Im an addict? No. Do I know this is dancing with the devil? Yes.

Trainspotter, though the two are similar in chemical nature, no they are not the exact same substance. Though they do share a similar chemical structure, Heroine has added CH3 and O bonds (chemistry). No doubt they are chemically similar, but they are not the exact same.

Im sorry you guys got into drugs so young and continued the use for so long. I came here for a question on withdrawals, and Ive been told some horror stories. Our lives are not in the same spot. Im 23, about to graduate with a degree in electrical engineering from a good school, I dont have kids, Im not presently addicted to a substance, I have my life in order (aside from this injury). Im not gloating, or trying to be disrespectful of your life choices in any way, but trying to push me into the mold you were at is improper. Due to our differing ages at times of use and the longevity, were all different. Even you two arent at the same spot.

You guys can believe you are always going to be an addict and once an addict always an addict and life sucks and woe is me (when/if you stop) or you can think damn, I came through a lot and beat that and Im NO LONGER ADDICTED.

Its my belief saying your always an addict is a cop out. If you want to believe that who am I to tell you otherwise, youre obviously much deeper into the game than I ever was. I do NOT understand an addiction of the length of you two because youre right, I never had that. Just as you cant understand (albeit, probably better than the reverse) an addiction as short as mine. That sentence was worded weird, apologies but I hope it gets across.

Thanks for your continued support. This drug has ruined lives, Ive had friends who were in similar situations in terms of length of use and it fucked them. I seem to be able to control it better than others. Dont believe me? I dont care. Im not saying Im better than you, I just have been able to manage my self control up to this point. Believe in me or dont, makes no difference.

Thanks sarah for the good wishes, should be 100% by august, hopefully earlier. W/ds are over, Im stoked, made it back to school, got through it. Thanks bluelight

Good luck with everything none of us were judging you we just can't help but at least try to keep another soul from falling into addiction mabye you did beat it 2 months is not a long time mabye you only got physically addicted in that time but for some reason your mind didnt either way we here wjat your saying all the tine from people chipping on heroin and yes i kbow its not the EXACT same chemical structure but thr withdrawals are the same ive experienced both and felt no difference in heroin to oxycodone in terms od addixtion and the high that i chased. Once again I wish you the best nothing but respect from all of us but you won't convince us that we can beat an addiction and say were cured cause it won't happen we can't prove all the doctors and scientists wrong who have researched addiction ever since A.A. was first founded Almost a century ago. All of us addicts have seen somebody clean for 20 Yeats who thought hey I'll just have one drink with my friends at the bar I must be cured by now I don't even think about it or mind state is different this time around or whatever excuses they give. Then after one drink they remember the feeling so next time they have 2 then 3 then they have their shirt off trying to fight everybody in the bar like when they were a full on alcoholic 20 years ago.
The reason you heard all these horror stories is because their are no happy endings when it comes to people who use oxy/heroin/ opiates in general its all fun at first but quickly turns to a lot of pain suffering, lonelyness and sadness. This is why we are all trying to stress this to you this life is probably one of the worst lives a person could lead, everyday we wake up sick as hell and feeling hopeless I contemplated suicide many times but I'm no pussy I know I gotta play these cards like I said I've had a tough life but I have no one to blame for my addiction but myself I chose this life after all I could have said no I don't wanna try oxy but I did and can't change the past only try to help others follow a better path at least I tried that's all I can do. I sincerely hope you do good in life you seem like a nice person we ate not judging you for what you put into your body only trying to keep you from leading a miserable life as a junkie.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

i view it differently than you guys. taking 30mg didnt reset my withdrawls at all, no symptoms. i have been through them twice. this time was mild as i stated, the time before sucked. So yes, Hdouble, I have gone through them.

I don't know if i could be labeled an addict or not. I used them every day for 2 months. Did I think I was addicted? No, Im sure no one does the first time. Did I realize I was addicted when I went through withdrawals? Yes.

Do I still enjoy opiates? Yes. Do I think Im an addict? No. Do I know this is dancing with the devil? Yes.

Trainspotter, though the two are similar in chemical nature, no they are not the exact same substance. Though they do share a similar chemical structure, Heroine has added CH3 and O bonds (chemistry). No doubt they are chemically similar, but they are not the exact same.

Im sorry you guys got into drugs so young and continued the use for so long. I came here for a question on withdrawals, and Ive been told some horror stories. Our lives are not in the same spot. Im 23, about to graduate with a degree in electrical engineering from a good school, I dont have kids, Im not presently addicted to a substance, I have my life in order (aside from this injury). Im not gloating, or trying to be disrespectful of your life choices in any way, but trying to push me into the mold you were at is improper. Due to our differing ages at times of use and the longevity, were all different. Even you two arent at the same spot.

You guys can believe you are always going to be an addict and once an addict always an addict and life sucks and woe is me (when/if you stop) or you can think damn, I came through a lot and beat that and Im NO LONGER ADDICTED.

Its my belief saying your always an addict is a cop out. If you want to believe that who am I to tell you otherwise, youre obviously much deeper into the game than I ever was. I do NOT understand an addiction of the length of you two because youre right, I never had that. Just as you cant understand (albeit, probably better than the reverse) an addiction as short as mine. That sentence was worded weird, apologies but I hope it gets across.

Thanks for your continued support. This drug has ruined lives, Ive had friends who were in similar situations in terms of length of use and it fucked them. I seem to be able to control it better than others. Dont believe me? I dont care. Im not saying Im better than you, I just have been able to manage my self control up to this point. Believe in me or dont, makes no difference.

Thanks sarah for the good wishes, should be 100% by august, hopefully earlier. W/ds are over, Im stoked, made it back to school, got through it. Thanks bluelight

Well good luck to ya man.. congrats on being cured of your addiction..

 

[IllicitOne]

Well good luck to ya man.. congrats on being cured of your addiction..

i didnt say i was cured of anything, just that i had gotten through what i was going through. ill always like opiates, theyve saved me when i was in immense pain and as we all know they provide a nice euphoria. does always liking them make me an addict? Having a mental craving today sure made me think about this again. you all say this once an addict always an addict, im interested as to why you believe this.

if that is the case; then the following CANT be true:

Mike uses substance A for 5 years in addict behavior, ie, physically/mentally dependent. He stops and goes through withdrawals. Fast forward 5 years. Mike uses substance A once, and does not fall into his previous behaviors.

This happens, which by basic logic means that once an addict always an addict cannot be true. (this assumes one is talking about immediately falling back into addict behavior.

Maybe you arent using that definition, or different logic, but I am curious as to why you think the way you do. Genuinely curious as there may be something I am not thinking of.

 

[sarajenni88]

Continuing to use especially with the mind frame u have will set u up for addiction. And honestly ur behavior is already going that way...u showed a willingness to get thru the w/ds but ended up rationalizing more use.
Once an addict always an addict IS correct. And count urself lucky that u haven't come to this conclusion yet. And by that I am not talking about an addicts actions or lack of moral character. What I mean is that once ur brain is addicted to opiates and u have suffered through w/d. Ur brain is now wired in a way that just one or two days of use will require u to again go thru w/d.
And each time, the symptoms become more and more severe. U learned this already by having to w/d after pain medication was prescribed to u in the hospital. And if ur w/ding again right now... I'm sure u understand. I hope u seek our support in that case. I am not judging u in fact I am trying to save u from further (and trust me worst ) suffering. Please feel free to PM me if u need some advice. I am no one to judge. I wish u a furthered successful recovery.

Ur question answered.
Once ur brain is addicted its always addicted. That doesn't mean that ppl cannot make different decisions and change their lives. Honestly ur views on self control and w/d as a hangover is offensive and inaccurate. Its quite one-dimensional. We were helping someone going thru a PHYSICAL dependency ( you). And if that dependency starts and ends here for you that's exactly what I wanted to accomplish. Don't attack ppl who know much more on the subject.

 

[IllicitOne]

uhm, i dont see how having the self control to not use a substance is offensive...? The physical dependency did not start here, it started in the hospital. The physical dependency ended with a little help from here. Now that that is over, I fail to see where addiction is. Is it mental cravings? A desire to do it more?

If each time my symptoms get worse and worse....this hasnt happened.
if i need one-two days of use to get withdrawls... this hasnt happened.

My brains probably wired a bit more towards opiates, I did them for two months...but your once again cramming my 2 months addiction into your...5 years did you say? Im sorry its on the first page and I forgot, but those are quite different times. I do find myself having definate mental urges after this 3 week span, but I dont throughout the year at all...really ever. Im never going through a day and thinking "damn, I really want some oxy right now".

Your saying my view is one dimensional, how is that any different from your one dimensional view of once an addict always an addict? Maybe if you shoot heroin for 10 years you cant go back and do more heroin, but I dont find any issues popping an oxy or two one night, having a chill time, and not doing it again for months, even years. This just does not sound like addict behavior, and im not saying that because "Im not an addict" I would say that about anyone....wouldnt you? What addict behavior is this?

You gave some solid advice sara, I think this is a really interesting subject. Just trying to see inside all your heads and why you believe people cannot change. I think comes down to length of use though, the longer the habit the harder to kick probably...more intense w/ds, worse cravings, longer time to develop bad habits, probably easier to fall into a habit of x years than x months

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

Congrats OP!
Glad to hear you will never be addicted to opiates in your life since you have self control.. ahh i remember when i did too, good memories.

Can this be closed now mods?
The question was answered and now it's just turning into an argument between hindsight and foresight.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

OP i got your PM but your inbox is either full or you can't get anymore messages until you reach bluelighter status i tried to reply.

Here this is the only way I can tell you what I had to say:

maybe the forum isnt the best way. I am interested in your view point, or just really whats behind it. You worded what you had to say the most articulately and Im not as experienced as you so I would like your input.

You know the whole backstory. I was, in my opinion, addicted to opiates for 2 months. Granted, it was my first time really using them often so the addiction probably set in 2-4 weeks in? But the whole time I had no intention of stopping so that's basically addicted.

When I did, I went cold turkey. I didnt actually expect withdrawals, but when I got through them (took about a week) I had felt like I had gone through hell. Xanax killed off most of the worst symptoms and it really was akin to a bad flu. Anyways, the one symptom that persisted was the mild "night sweat" or I guess inability to control temperature regulation (cold when its hot out and vice versa). FYI, abuse dose was several 80s a day railed. Maybe 4-5, depending, towards the end.

After that, I didn't use opiates again on that scale. Over the course of the next five years I did use recreationally (after giving it a good 6 month break). I'd pop a few vicodin here and there, or some percocets. I do enjoy them, I alway will enjoy them. Is this what makes me an addict?

I dont find myself mentally craving them (or hadn't,, until this hospital stay). The cravings are the worst part, I remember them from 5 years ago. Your head tries to justify using them, or wanting them, and it takes a lot to tell yourself no. Does that mean Im an addict? Or was physically addicted?

Like I said, Im never like that, which is the hardest part of the w/d I think. After two years do you till have mental cravings? Is that why you think you are still an addict in recovery? Cravings different than just knowing you enjoy them?

Interested in your input and opinions

You got all of what others and i had to say in the thread, if we wanted to go into more detail about our personal lives like all the things we have done, things we've been through, things that happened to us, things "wrong" with us and our lives, and basically everything you want to know. Most wouldn't feel comfortable sharing that info with someone we don't really know over the internet.
We told you the things that we thought could help you and SOME of our back story.. you don't need to know our whole lives.
Yes, i have had a hard life.. but everyone thinks they have. My life is very complicated and it keeps on getting more shit shoveled onto it faster than i can get rid of it.
We are just trying to help you learn from our mistakes. If you aren't making them than I am sorry we made you feel as if you were another "statistic" like us.
People who have been through all this hard stuff really just want to make sure others don't go through it, we may come off as assholes when we try to get our points across but we are good people.
It is kind of like when you're in school and the people who have been through this try to tell all the students about it and keep them from doing what they did and all the kids are like "yeah okay this guy is way over reacting, it won't happen to me".
That person is just being sincere and trying to get a point across.. it doesn't always work for everyone though.
A lot of us learn the hard way.

Sorry i can't help anymore.

 

[sarajenni88]

^^^^^^^ yes.
And for the record I've never used heroin. My dependence started due to pain management. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and then early onset osteoarthritis. My life is not horrible. I am a semi-successful writer and a very successful mother.
But my physical dependence is something I deal with daily and its a struggle.
That doesn't mean I am doomed to a life of drug addiction. It means my BRAIN will always be dependent on opiates whether I'm on them or not. For many ppl will power has very very little to do with true addiction. We are not trying to" pigeonhole" you as an addict. Its just a warning that u want to heed. I'm glad u can't understand us. But if u continue to view opiate addiction as a matter of will power it could cost u a lot. That's all I was trying to get across to you!!!

 

[sekio]

Just because you are dependent on opioids once, doesn't mean you will be so forever. Maintaining a positive attitude helps a lot when you deal with these sorts of problems.

Find other sources of euphoria and good times in your life and eventually you will feel better, assuming you're otherwise healthy.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Yeah dependence and psychological addiction are very different things. When people say, you're an addict for life, they don't mean you are dependent for life.. just that you'll always have to deal with the cravings and the risk of falling back into active addiction is always there.

 

[The Doc.]

sarajenni88;1225041^^^^^^^ yes.
And for the record I've never used heroin. My dependence started due to pain management. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and then early onset osteoarthritis. My life is not horrible. I am a semi-successful writer and a very successful mother.
But my physical dependence is something I deal with daily and its a struggle.
That doesn't mean I am doomed to a life of drug addiction. It means my BRAIN will always be dependent on opiates whether I'm on them or not. For many ppl will power has very very little to do with true addiction. We are not trying to" pigeonhole" you as an addict. Its just a warning that u want to heed. I'm glad u can't understand us. But if u continue to view opiate addiction as a matter of will power it could cost u a lot. That's all I was trying to get across to you!!!

That's exactly right Sara just because this guy made a senerio where he says a guy uses a substance for a while becomes addicted gets clean and uses again and doesn't become addicted. Soooo okay this is what's supposed to make us believe addiction is curable and make us not believe all the doctors and scientists who have studied addiction since A.A. was first founded almost a century ago? I don't think so buddy your coming off like an arrogant prick if I must say so both to me and Sara who are trying to help you.

We are not crying poor me Woe is me like the op said in a very insulting way before by saying addiction stays with a person forever we are simply living in reality. If you keep going the way you are your gonna find out like the saying goes if you play with fire eventually your gonna get burned. How bout you get rid of your medicine cabinet of opiates? No you won't do that okay fine what are you gonna do when that runs out.

You have a lot to learn if you think addiction is curable we speak the truth when we say addiction stays with a person for life you don't choose to accept it even tho you just went through withdrawals after being on meds for your surgery if you didn't already have a addiction then you wouldn't have had withdrawals stopping the meds you were on for such a short time. A normal person taking their meds as prescribed for a short time will not have withdrawals stopping them. Yes i know they wernt quite as intense as last time but thats because you took them the way your suposed to. You choose not to believe the truth so that's okay you can keep thinking the way you do. Every addict who truly tried to stop their drug of choice knows this mabye you haven't done it enough or maybe you just don't want to quit cause then you can't go take opiates from your cabinet whenever you want.

I don't want to hear anymore us addicts are simply crying poor me cause your one too do you want to see what its like to stop your drugs and see if you don't become addicted years later when you try it again then throw out all your pills come on do it I thought it was all about self control and being tough? Well how come you can't see to stop. Just cause you can afford to go to school doesn't make you better or smarter than us some people don't get opportunities like others. Just cause you can still make it to school doesn't make you not an addict it means your functioning right now I mean I'm functioning I work hard everyday 12 hours a day 6 days a week I'm cutting up 60 foot beams all day with a chainsaw breaking my back. I've worked all by myself running whats suposed to be a 3 man operation cutting orders,putting away stock with the forklift, loading trucks, and cleaning up I've done this 7 years all while addicted to drugs.

I've known too many addicts to think once you quit drugs your cured its just not the case I've lost quite a few friends to drugs and am watching drugs slowly kill the rest. Just recently my best friend got back into drinking booze after being clean for 3 years he reminds me of you how you think of addiction as being cured. He thought I'll just have one beer with my bro on his birthday why not he said his mind state was different than when he was an alcoholic and he doesn't want to get drunk blah blah blah I told him you can't cure an addict but he figured he doesn't live on the streets no more so he should be fine stopping. He was wrong he is now at home shaking and shivering and having seizures from withdrawal cause he went on a bender and I saw him with his shirt off fighting guys outside the liquor store and I saw the person from 3 years prior come right back. You'll never convince us we can fully beat our addiction sure we can be in revovery and work hard at it our whole lives but we can never lose that addict gene deep inside our brain it will always be there. You will learn one day we may be the same age but when it comes to addiction you have a lot to learn now don't insult me Sara or h double o deezy anymore we were trying to help you and you insult us not cool. Sorry for calling you an arrogant prick but it makes me mad hearing you talk that way after all we've been through and all the friends we've lost to addiction. Go tot he streets instead of school one day and see all the hopeless addicts and gain some respect for them cause that very well could be you in a few years the way your going pal. Well Bye for now lunchtime is over hope you understand addiction a little better.

 

[The Doc.]

Yes Mr S that's what we mean dependent means your currently in active addiction you need a pill to get well every morning. A person can be an addict and not be dependent cause they are in recovery but the person will always be addicted once they reach a certain point in their addiction its a lifelong struggle of cravings and idolising their drug of choice. Mabye the op isn't quite there yet but one things for sure it only take time and eventually that evil substance is gonna bring you down as long as you continue to use.

 

[The Doc.]

Just because you are dependent on opioids once, doesn't mean you will be so forever. Maintaining a positive attitude helps a lot when you deal with these sorts of problems.

Find other sources of euphoria and good times in your life and eventually you will feel better, assuming you're otherwise healthy.

I don't think she meant dependent she meant addicted meaning the chance to become dependent after an addict gets clean is always there.

 

[sarajenni88]

You will learn one day we may be the same age but when it comes to addiction you have a lot to learn now don't insult me Sara or h double o deezy anymore we were trying to help you and you insult us not cool. Sorry for calling you an arrogant prick but it makes me mad hearing you talk that way after all we've been through and all the friends we've lost to addiction. Go tot he streets instead of school one day and see all the hopeless addicts and gain some respect for them cause that very well could be you in a few years the way your going pal. Well Bye for now lunchtime is over hope you understand addiction a little better.

Ty sir

 

[The Doc.]

I think the OP should go to some A.A. meetings in his area and tell all the people who have been coming to A.A. meeting for support with their addiction that they should get over their addiction and that they should be cured. Think about it even after being clean for 20 years. I mean do you think they go for fun? If after 20 years of being clean and in recovery they still feel the need to go to meetings for support how can they be cured. Just shows how much you have to learn I've been to many A.A. meetings and met lots of good people who all say the same thing Addiction is a lifelong disease and you work at it for life.

 

[CouldBU]

Thanks

I'm glad I found this post. I came here today for another reason, because I was thinking about opiates again after 3 yrs clean and was doing some research. I'm in the same situation, had some root canals done in last month and infection spread, was on antibiotics and hydrocodone. While finishing 2 rounds of antibiotics for the abscesses, I came down with acute appendicitis and had an appendectomy. I was only in the hospital 2 days and was given morphine, dilaudid, and oxycodone. I also had some Fentanyl post-op. I came home with an oxycodone prescription. I needed them for pain for a few days, but not as many as the Dr. gave me. A week after the appendectomy, I went back to the dentist to complete root canals and there was a problem. The tip of the root didn't seal properly and the dentist said "medicine" came out the tip. He said call him if it started swelling. By next day my tooth was throbbing and gum was swelling. I went back and he put me on more antibiotics and more hydrocodone. I needed the pain meds for about 3 days. I finished the antibiotics and pain is gone, has been since Sun. I took nothing for pain Mon., ibuprofen on Tues, for headache. By Wed, I was feeling so irritable I couldn't stand myself and found myself thinking how much better I would feel if I took a pain pill. I ended up taking a hydrocodone, and same thing again today. Only 1, but 1 leads to another.... I don't want to go back to the way things were 3 yrs ago. After reading this, I know the wise thing to do is give my pills up to my roommate in case of legit medical need, but refrain from using them otherwise. I'm a bit concerned since I have another root canal scheduled later this month and maybe a few more after that so it looks like the hydrocodone may keep flowing for a bit. I still have oxycodone, but I didn't take that last 2 days, probably because I know it will drag me in faster than the hydrocodone. Regardless, it all started with hydrocodone last time. It's easy for me to tell strangers on the net I will give up my pills, but won't be as easy for me to tell my roommate. She might .actually take my pills away....and you know how that thinking works, lol. Anyway, thanks for the headsup folks, I appreciate your words of wisdom to the the OP and to me in turn

 

[The Doc.]

I'm glad I found this post. I came here today for another reason, because I was thinking about opiates again after 3 yrs clean and was doing some research. I'm in the same situation, had some root canals done in last month and infection spread, was on antibiotics and hydrocodone. While finishing 2 rounds of antibiotics for the abscesses, I came down with acute appendicitis and had an appendectomy. I was only in the hospital 2 days and was given morphine, dilaudid, and oxycodone. I also had some Fentanyl post-op. I came home with an oxycodone prescription. I needed them for pain for a few days, but not as many as the Dr. gave me. A week after the appendectomy, I went back to the dentist to complete root canals and there was a problem. The tip of the root didn't seal properly and the dentist said "medicine" came out the tip. He said call him if it started swelling. By next day my tooth was throbbing and gum was swelling. I went back and he put me on more antibiotics and more hydrocodone. I needed the pain meds for about 3 days. I finished the antibiotics and pain is gone, has been since Sun. I took nothing for pain Mon., ibuprofen on Tues, for headache. By Wed, I was feeling so irritable I couldn't stand myself and found myself thinking how much better I would feel if I took a pain pill. I ended up taking a hydrocodone, and same thing again today. Only 1, but 1 leads to another.... I don't want to go back to the way things were 3 yrs ago. After reading this, I know the wise thing to do is give my pills up to my roommate in case of legit medical need, but refrain from using them otherwise. I'm a bit concerned since I have another root canal scheduled later this month and maybe a few more after that so it looks like the hydrocodone may keep flowing for a bit. I still have oxycodone, but I didn't take that last 2 days, probably because I know it will drag me in faster than the hydrocodone. Regardless, it all started with hydrocodone last time. It's easy for me to tell strangers on the net I will give up my pills, but won't be as easy for me to tell my roommate. She might .actually take my pills away....and you know how that thinking works, lol. Anyway, thanks for the headsup folks, I appreciate your words of wisdom to the the OP and to me in turn

Your very welcome my friend glad to see we got through to someone that's all. That's smart of you for recognising that you have a problem so opiates are a no no unless you want to fall victim to being dependent again or if you are in extreme pain or dying.
Good luck with everything I hope you find the strength to give your pills to your friend and that you don't end up like a lot of us who are pretty hopeless and live everyday by waking up sick as hell and needing 100 bucks just to feel normal for another day. Its the worst life a person could lead so deal with the bit of withdrawals you'll have now and stay away from the dam poison unless absolutely necessary. You can pm me if you have any questions