hatrix
Bluelighter
I have around 2gs of Phenazepam that I've been sitting on for a while. It was given to me free from one of the (IMO) greatest vendors there ever was, but he has now sadly closed shop sometime ago.
Any who, I know Phenazepam isn't water soluble. Also, based on its density, when put in water all particles of actual Phenazepam should float to the bottom. So with that knowledge I filled a little cup with a small amount of water then proceeded to dump a small amount of phenazepam in the water (around 20mg). Am I wrong in thinking that after stirring for a while all the product should be at the bottom completely intact ?
What I'm left with after 10 minutes of stirring (admittedly not very long) is some normal intact product at the bottom as it should be, usually pooling together in the center if I stir in a perfect circle motion. On the top of the water however is lots of thin blobs which are crystalline, as they spark in the light. If the Phenazepam were to stick together in small clumps, would it stay on top instead of floating to the bottom causing what I'm seeing ?
Having a density of 1.61 g/cm3, in general Phenazepam should sink when placed in water.... Of course when I first placed it in the water in a pile the pile didn't sink, I had to poke at it to break it apart, so that seems to almost answer my question there.
While typing this I've tried poking at the blobs more to break them apart and get them to sink and it seems more and more of them are actually sinking. There's far less on the surface, now mostly very very small bits scattered about.
Now the reason I'm asking is because I believe my product is cut based on my dosing of it in what should be plenty for more of a recreational effect, and I've redosed upwards of 6 times in the past 2 days. The first day I used it I had a solution made at 1mg/mL and I dosed 3 milligrams. Didn't really get me to where I wanted to be (since I was coming down from a stimulant) and dosed 2 more milligrams throughout the night dissolved on Ritz. I called it quits though and eventually fell asleep around 7-8 hours after plugging 20mg of Adderall. I thought it helped me get to sleep earlier than usual Tuesday night, but it might have just been my tolerance build up to amphetamines. Coming down from 4-FA I took the very next day, I tried using phenazepam again. This time however, I weighed out 50mg then split that pile in two as evenly as possible. I then split that pile and so on until I had a pile anywhere from 1-5mg. I ate it and still never truly felt a benzo like effect. Tried doing it a couple more times that night but still wasn't satisfied/feeling much of anything other than possibly placebo.
So the next day when I wake up, Thursday, I had only slept a couple hours at most but had to go to class. Before leaving I tried eating an amount of powder in the same manner as the night before, making sure to split piles as evenly as possible. (I know this is dumb, I've seen all the hundreds of disaster threads so please don't lecture me on this....). Went to class, didn't feel anything the entire time other than physical anxiety side effects from the 4-FA comedown. I got home and then proceeded to sleep for about 3 1/2 hours before going to my last class. Came back home and plugged a combo of 20mg Adderall (XR crushed up) and a small amount of Phenazepam.
I knew there had to be some amount of phenazepam in my blood already, how much though I'm not sure. I was completely underwhelmed from the adderall and figured it might happen because of the phenazepam being built up over a couple days. I didn't get any rush like usual and was only slightly speed with increased heart rate, etc. so I decided to plug 50mg of 4-FA an hour and a half after the Adderall. This led to some uncomfortable stimulation not very long after and I have been trying to dose more phenazepam and finally get that benzo feeling where I know I can fall asleep.
Still haven't got there. Either that or I'm messed up on it and just can't tell. I can walk perfectly fine, speech is normal (recorded myself to make sure), and I'm still ridden with an uncomfortable body load from coming down off both stimulants. I've tried dosing 3 or 4 times now tonight with the pile separation method. I'm only trusting this method because I honestly believe the product is heavily cut. Plenty of hours have gone by since the first dose or two, I should at least feel them but it seems extremely extremely mild. I used to be prescribed xanax and used it for comedowns multiple times, I know what to expect.
Sorry for the really long post, I know I'm rambling. It's cause I'm most definitely still speeding/tweaky, going to show the Phenazepam hasn't hit me very strong.
Also to add, since typing this up took me a little while, there's barely anything left on the surface of the water anymore and I'm sure with a tad bit more stirring nothing will be left at the top. It's to hard to tell if anything dissolved. I'm going to have to try a larger amount and then run it through a coffee filter, then weigh it again and see if there's a difference.
Any who, I know Phenazepam isn't water soluble. Also, based on its density, when put in water all particles of actual Phenazepam should float to the bottom. So with that knowledge I filled a little cup with a small amount of water then proceeded to dump a small amount of phenazepam in the water (around 20mg). Am I wrong in thinking that after stirring for a while all the product should be at the bottom completely intact ?
What I'm left with after 10 minutes of stirring (admittedly not very long) is some normal intact product at the bottom as it should be, usually pooling together in the center if I stir in a perfect circle motion. On the top of the water however is lots of thin blobs which are crystalline, as they spark in the light. If the Phenazepam were to stick together in small clumps, would it stay on top instead of floating to the bottom causing what I'm seeing ?
Having a density of 1.61 g/cm3, in general Phenazepam should sink when placed in water.... Of course when I first placed it in the water in a pile the pile didn't sink, I had to poke at it to break it apart, so that seems to almost answer my question there.
While typing this I've tried poking at the blobs more to break them apart and get them to sink and it seems more and more of them are actually sinking. There's far less on the surface, now mostly very very small bits scattered about.
Now the reason I'm asking is because I believe my product is cut based on my dosing of it in what should be plenty for more of a recreational effect, and I've redosed upwards of 6 times in the past 2 days. The first day I used it I had a solution made at 1mg/mL and I dosed 3 milligrams. Didn't really get me to where I wanted to be (since I was coming down from a stimulant) and dosed 2 more milligrams throughout the night dissolved on Ritz. I called it quits though and eventually fell asleep around 7-8 hours after plugging 20mg of Adderall. I thought it helped me get to sleep earlier than usual Tuesday night, but it might have just been my tolerance build up to amphetamines. Coming down from 4-FA I took the very next day, I tried using phenazepam again. This time however, I weighed out 50mg then split that pile in two as evenly as possible. I then split that pile and so on until I had a pile anywhere from 1-5mg. I ate it and still never truly felt a benzo like effect. Tried doing it a couple more times that night but still wasn't satisfied/feeling much of anything other than possibly placebo.
So the next day when I wake up, Thursday, I had only slept a couple hours at most but had to go to class. Before leaving I tried eating an amount of powder in the same manner as the night before, making sure to split piles as evenly as possible. (I know this is dumb, I've seen all the hundreds of disaster threads so please don't lecture me on this....). Went to class, didn't feel anything the entire time other than physical anxiety side effects from the 4-FA comedown. I got home and then proceeded to sleep for about 3 1/2 hours before going to my last class. Came back home and plugged a combo of 20mg Adderall (XR crushed up) and a small amount of Phenazepam.
I knew there had to be some amount of phenazepam in my blood already, how much though I'm not sure. I was completely underwhelmed from the adderall and figured it might happen because of the phenazepam being built up over a couple days. I didn't get any rush like usual and was only slightly speed with increased heart rate, etc. so I decided to plug 50mg of 4-FA an hour and a half after the Adderall. This led to some uncomfortable stimulation not very long after and I have been trying to dose more phenazepam and finally get that benzo feeling where I know I can fall asleep.
Still haven't got there. Either that or I'm messed up on it and just can't tell. I can walk perfectly fine, speech is normal (recorded myself to make sure), and I'm still ridden with an uncomfortable body load from coming down off both stimulants. I've tried dosing 3 or 4 times now tonight with the pile separation method. I'm only trusting this method because I honestly believe the product is heavily cut. Plenty of hours have gone by since the first dose or two, I should at least feel them but it seems extremely extremely mild. I used to be prescribed xanax and used it for comedowns multiple times, I know what to expect.
Sorry for the really long post, I know I'm rambling. It's cause I'm most definitely still speeding/tweaky, going to show the Phenazepam hasn't hit me very strong.
Also to add, since typing this up took me a little while, there's barely anything left on the surface of the water anymore and I'm sure with a tad bit more stirring nothing will be left at the top. It's to hard to tell if anything dissolved. I'm going to have to try a larger amount and then run it through a coffee filter, then weigh it again and see if there's a difference.
I knew it was going to give that vibe half way through typing it.
