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Desoxypipradrol - First Experience(s) - 5mg+7mg - A Comparison
Those who do not want to read the full report skip ahead to the red FIN sign for a conclusion and summary
Route : Insufflation/Nasal
Weight : 185lbs
Resting Heart-Rate: 64BPM
Tolerance to stimulants : None [Drugs taken in the past 7 days - cannabis (last night), clonazepam(last night)]
Decided to write this up as there are very little desoxy reports - The only other one being F&B's
Sorry for the long trip report, It's quite easy to blabber on for pages when you're on a drug that motivates you - I've adopted this style for trip reports as they are my favourite kind to read before I try a new drug (more informative than a story)
Enjoy!
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11AM - Woke up realizing I'd passed out last night on 2mg clonazepam and decided to take this stimulant I'd had lying about.
11:18AM[T+0min] - Snorted 5mg, stinging pain the back of my throat. Not the worst pain from snorting a rc but not the best either
11:39AM[T+20min] - Notice some slight stimulation, jaw clenching. No euphoria really as of yet. It's also cleared up my blocked sinuses :D
11:50AM[T+31min] - I notice a little bit of euphoria coming on, not strong at all. Nothing compared to the euphoria-bliss that is MDPV. A slight flutter in my chest. My appetite remains unchanged and I decide to go have a wee piece in sausage
12:05AM[T+46min] - The euphoria is certainly not as prominent as MDPV, but still enjoyable. I ended up staying in the kitchen and cleaning it up - I guess that is why the drug was seen a possible ADHD treatment. By this time all the bad taste in my mouth/throat/nose has gone The jaw clenching (which was minor to start with) has dissipated for the most part by now also.
12:18AM[T+59min] Heart-Rate: 88BPMwhich is weird because I've read desoxy causes little to no peripheral sympathomimetic side effects. I usually clock my heart-rate at about ~65
12:27AM[T+1hr,08min] I am tempted to re-dose as I feel like I've hit my plateau. I am hesitant however as there is such little information on this drug (not having a erowid entry is particularly annoying). I still feel pretty much the same, energetic, mild (very mild) euphoria. Pupils appear to be dilated.
12:32AM[T+1hr,12min] I have the urge to tidy up some more, so I fill this urge
12:56AM[T+1hr,30min] Definitely plateaud - Its quite enjoyable to clean. I think my urge to redose may be down to some mechanism similar to coke/ket where you just want more. I am still very alert and active. My rooms not been this clean in ages. I think I may re-dose soon to see what else this drug has to offer
Redose 7mg
1:18PM[T+1hr,42min] Despite my better judgment, I redosed another 7mg. Luckily for me I have enough benzos here to put a small army to sleep. As soon as I snorted it I felt an immediate increase in heart-rate. Heart-Rate:108BPM. I don't notice any bad taste/stinging with this line. For an unknown reason. Maybe some sort of anesthetic effect on the throat? There seems to also be a sudden rush of euphoria this time, whereas my first dose was a slow-gradual build up
1:29PM[T+1hr,53min] Heart-rate: 112BPM I am able to eat my lunch fine, no paranoia whatsoever about my family noticing I've taken something. The physical effects of this drug are very small. At the most you're just more chatty. I would never dream of talking to my parents on coke/speed, or even MDPV for that matter. I decide to go upstairs anyway since I'm sniffing a lot (like you would if you snorted anything)
1:43PM[T+2hr,07min]I agree with MDPVagrants opinion that this stimulant causes you to get distracted. In example; You'll do one task for 5-15minutes at the most and then move on to 'something more interesting' However, the other task will lay in the back of your mind, dormant, and you will inevitably come back to it. My posting format is proof of this, usually I do trip reports and come back every 30minutes or so to add something but this is being written in a rather spontaneous way in which thoughts spring to my mind. I disagree, however, about his opinion of focus.
1:52PM[T+2hr,16min]Heart-Rate: 120BPM The euphoria is definitely back. Its not a "grab-your-chest-ecstasy" euphoria. More of a relaxed calm, feel good euphoria. Or as my mate calls it, a "work-aholics euphora' where you get a sense of achievement from completing a task which could possible be mistaken for euphoria. Pleasurable - yes. It may be suited for those people who feel no euphoria from MDPV (hey, everyones different right?) but for now MDPV is still my favourite. So far I've yet to get any of the anxiety or the 'sense of impending doom' that I hear often described in desoxy threads. But I'm sure I've got that to look forward to in the coming hours.
2:30PM[T+2hr,54min]Heart-Rate has dipped slightly to 108BPM Sat downstairs talking to my mum/sister for a bit. Wasn't worried they'd notice since, as I stated before, very few physical things this drug effects. Desoxy makes me very chatty, much like coke. Naturally, I'm a pretty quite person (which I hate) so I could see desoxy coming handy as a (especially with its long duration) low-dose drug I could take to help me stop being so quite. Desoxy, similar to cocaine doesn't just increase your confidence but you actually enjoy talking to people more. My thoughts are racing a bit more now whereas they seemed to flow easily earlier. Euphoria has remained steady throughout excluding the re-dose or when I accomplish something.
3:00PM[T+3hr,24min]Some of the euphoria is starting to be replaced with anxiety. Worrying about things I wouldn't of gave a second thought for a few hours ago. I really hope that I'm not one of those people that end up with a 'sense of impending-doom' as I was rather starting to enjoy the drug. "This is an anthem - filo & peris ft. eric lumiere" comes on though so the anxiety is (temporarily) gone.
3:36PM[T+4hr]I was trying to convert the Ms.Norway2006 porn into the .3gp format for my mates phone and ended up watching it :D this got rid of my anxiety for some reason. However, I feel as if the drug has worn off my completely. I've read many reports of this lasting anywhere from 20-72hrs so I know my mind must be playing tricks on me. Unless I've got another 16hours of mild simulation to look forward to (I hope not!) right now I just feel slightly stimulated. No euphoria whatsoever at the moment. None of that real "I need to do something now!" feeling. Weird. I do, however, have that greedy-coke feeling of "go one, just take another line" However, I will leave that for another time when I'm more familiar with the drug. Driving test tomorrow which I'm trying to avoid ending up being either over-stimulated(up all night on desoxy) or under-stimulated and drowsy (due to taking benzos to get to sleep)
4:26PM[T+4hr,50min]Not much has changed since I last posted. Still so-so just mild stimulation. I would say only slightly higher than caffeine if I'm being honest. I've also found that my motivation has dropped significantly. I'm also angrier for some reason. I'm disappointed that this is all the drug has to offer. I'm also getting annoying at little things (ie; my brother blasting the TV when I'm clearly listing to music.) Normally things like this wouldn't annoy me. weird. I still have that greedy coke desire to take more. I don't think it'll get much better than this..(so much for 20hrs, eh?)
5:23PM[T+5hr,47min]Heart-Rate: 92BPM I've spent the last hour reading through F&Bs Trip report (which was very hard to do as desoxy makes you want to change what you're doing every 5minutes) It appears that a lot of people are having different reactions to this. So far, for me the drug lasted 3-5hours I imagine I'll be stimulated for the next 10-15 though. This drug is unlike any I've ever tried. For example - erowid charts usually look like this I imagine the chart for desoxy would differ significantly. Most charts rise until a peak and then drop. Desoxy seems to rise, drop, and then rise again. Like a roller-coaster. Theres been times when I've felt nearly baseline and then get a sudden rush of energy and euphoria a few minutes later. So far, it looks like I have a body chemistry similar to Xorkoth who says;
7PM[T+7hr,38min]Heart-Rate: 88BPM Not much change since my last update. Gradually coming down. Even though the euphoria ended for the most post 3½ hours ago I've had gradually decreasing mild stimulation since. For example I stopped shaking my leg about 30minutes ago
9PM[T+9hr,38min]Heart-rate: 88BPM I think I've crashed? I'm unsure as it's a first experience. My head is feeling fuzzy and I'm feeling more of the fuzzy-mind intoxicated instead of clear-headed stimulation. My back and leg muscles are sore. My mouth tastes kinda funny. The kinda feeling when you feel the inside of your mouth after a E binge sober and realize its been through a war. Although it's not bad at all, it's noticeable. My nose is went stuffy again also
12PM[T+13hr,38min]Heart-rate: 88BPM Heart rate has remained constant for the past 5hours. I would say I'm pretty much baseline, or rather, I have been parallel to it for several hours. Nothing enjoyable or recreational now just "awake-ness" not even motivation. Its just like I've woke up. I'll probably end up taking a benzo in a few hours to sleep because I see no point in staying up.
12:25PM[T+14hr,02min]Heart-rate: 80BPM Enough of this jittery, amphetamine like high. 10mg valium down my neck!
4:30AM[T+18hr,07min]Heart-rate: 84BPM WTF I'm still up! The valium did nothing. Just took 2mg xanax. I'm not even stimulated at all. I'm just...awake. I feel like I've just woke up
9:30AM[T+23hr,07min]This is the time I got to sleep, woke up at 12 and didn't felt as if I'd gotten a full nights sleep.
FIN
Summary:
Euphoria: euphoria was prominent for the first 3 ½ hours then I had 30minutes of anxiety. At the 4th hour euphoria was gone and never returned.
Appetite Although I could probably eat anything put in front of my I'm never throughout these 20hr had the desire to eat. So I guess it could be considered a suppressant
Stimulation: I am still stimulated almost 14hours into it. It's not an enjoyable stimulation at the moment. For the first 5hours or so it was nice, and motivational. I got lots of stuff done. But right now I feel pretty tired even though I know I probably couldn't sleep
Libido: Saw little to no increase in sexual appetite. Severe shrinkage down there also. Not an aphrodisiac like MDPV
Physical AppearanceYou could talk to your boss or parents easily on the dosage I took. No visible effects. I think there was slight pupil dilation and jaw clenching but not noticeable
Conclusion: I have much still to learn about this drug. For me it only lasted 4 hours with 12hours of after effects (mild stimulation) if I'm being honest. I will need to try a larger dose. So basically, it lasted 2hours (euphoria) after my 7mg redose. Really weird, I was expecting a lot more from this drug as I'd read countless reports of people up 20-72hours. Maybe my body chemistry doesnt suit it? This is a drug you'd take if you had a long day of manual labour ahead of you. However, you get distracted easily and can't do a task for more than 15minutes. You can also quite happily sit still in a chair watching TV for 15minutes which would be near to impossible on MDPV. All in all, I'd take MDPV over Desoxy any day. But as Xorkoth stated, many have said the same and changed their minds
substancecode_desoxypipradrol
explevel_firsttime
categorycode_solo
categorycode_disappointing
categorycode_recreational
categorycode_indoors
Those who do not want to read the full report skip ahead to the red FIN sign for a conclusion and summary
Route : Insufflation/Nasal
Weight : 185lbs
Resting Heart-Rate: 64BPM
Tolerance to stimulants : None [Drugs taken in the past 7 days - cannabis (last night), clonazepam(last night)]
Decided to write this up as there are very little desoxy reports - The only other one being F&B's
Sorry for the long trip report, It's quite easy to blabber on for pages when you're on a drug that motivates you - I've adopted this style for trip reports as they are my favourite kind to read before I try a new drug (more informative than a story)
Enjoy!
-----
11AM - Woke up realizing I'd passed out last night on 2mg clonazepam and decided to take this stimulant I'd had lying about.
11:18AM[T+0min] - Snorted 5mg, stinging pain the back of my throat. Not the worst pain from snorting a rc but not the best either
11:39AM[T+20min] - Notice some slight stimulation, jaw clenching. No euphoria really as of yet. It's also cleared up my blocked sinuses :D
11:50AM[T+31min] - I notice a little bit of euphoria coming on, not strong at all. Nothing compared to the euphoria-bliss that is MDPV. A slight flutter in my chest. My appetite remains unchanged and I decide to go have a wee piece in sausage
12:05AM[T+46min] - The euphoria is certainly not as prominent as MDPV, but still enjoyable. I ended up staying in the kitchen and cleaning it up - I guess that is why the drug was seen a possible ADHD treatment. By this time all the bad taste in my mouth/throat/nose has gone The jaw clenching (which was minor to start with) has dissipated for the most part by now also.
12:18AM[T+59min] Heart-Rate: 88BPMwhich is weird because I've read desoxy causes little to no peripheral sympathomimetic side effects. I usually clock my heart-rate at about ~65
12:27AM[T+1hr,08min] I am tempted to re-dose as I feel like I've hit my plateau. I am hesitant however as there is such little information on this drug (not having a erowid entry is particularly annoying). I still feel pretty much the same, energetic, mild (very mild) euphoria. Pupils appear to be dilated.
12:32AM[T+1hr,12min] I have the urge to tidy up some more, so I fill this urge
12:56AM[T+1hr,30min] Definitely plateaud - Its quite enjoyable to clean. I think my urge to redose may be down to some mechanism similar to coke/ket where you just want more. I am still very alert and active. My rooms not been this clean in ages. I think I may re-dose soon to see what else this drug has to offer
Redose 7mg
1:18PM[T+1hr,42min] Despite my better judgment, I redosed another 7mg. Luckily for me I have enough benzos here to put a small army to sleep. As soon as I snorted it I felt an immediate increase in heart-rate. Heart-Rate:108BPM. I don't notice any bad taste/stinging with this line. For an unknown reason. Maybe some sort of anesthetic effect on the throat? There seems to also be a sudden rush of euphoria this time, whereas my first dose was a slow-gradual build up
1:29PM[T+1hr,53min] Heart-rate: 112BPM I am able to eat my lunch fine, no paranoia whatsoever about my family noticing I've taken something. The physical effects of this drug are very small. At the most you're just more chatty. I would never dream of talking to my parents on coke/speed, or even MDPV for that matter. I decide to go upstairs anyway since I'm sniffing a lot (like you would if you snorted anything)
1:43PM[T+2hr,07min]I agree with MDPVagrants opinion that this stimulant causes you to get distracted. In example; You'll do one task for 5-15minutes at the most and then move on to 'something more interesting' However, the other task will lay in the back of your mind, dormant, and you will inevitably come back to it. My posting format is proof of this, usually I do trip reports and come back every 30minutes or so to add something but this is being written in a rather spontaneous way in which thoughts spring to my mind. I disagree, however, about his opinion of focus.
I can't really comment as I've never tried Adderall or Ritalin but it certainly helps you focus just as well, if not better than MDPV. (it beats coke/amphetamine by miles) However, I am still in the very early stages of this drugs effects and I expect my opinion is most likely to change in the following hours.MDPVagrant said:
1:52PM[T+2hr,16min]Heart-Rate: 120BPM The euphoria is definitely back. Its not a "grab-your-chest-ecstasy" euphoria. More of a relaxed calm, feel good euphoria. Or as my mate calls it, a "work-aholics euphora' where you get a sense of achievement from completing a task which could possible be mistaken for euphoria. Pleasurable - yes. It may be suited for those people who feel no euphoria from MDPV (hey, everyones different right?) but for now MDPV is still my favourite. So far I've yet to get any of the anxiety or the 'sense of impending doom' that I hear often described in desoxy threads. But I'm sure I've got that to look forward to in the coming hours.
2:30PM[T+2hr,54min]Heart-Rate has dipped slightly to 108BPM Sat downstairs talking to my mum/sister for a bit. Wasn't worried they'd notice since, as I stated before, very few physical things this drug effects. Desoxy makes me very chatty, much like coke. Naturally, I'm a pretty quite person (which I hate) so I could see desoxy coming handy as a (especially with its long duration) low-dose drug I could take to help me stop being so quite. Desoxy, similar to cocaine doesn't just increase your confidence but you actually enjoy talking to people more. My thoughts are racing a bit more now whereas they seemed to flow easily earlier. Euphoria has remained steady throughout excluding the re-dose or when I accomplish something.
3:00PM[T+3hr,24min]Some of the euphoria is starting to be replaced with anxiety. Worrying about things I wouldn't of gave a second thought for a few hours ago. I really hope that I'm not one of those people that end up with a 'sense of impending-doom' as I was rather starting to enjoy the drug. "This is an anthem - filo & peris ft. eric lumiere" comes on though so the anxiety is (temporarily) gone.
3:36PM[T+4hr]I was trying to convert the Ms.Norway2006 porn into the .3gp format for my mates phone and ended up watching it :D this got rid of my anxiety for some reason. However, I feel as if the drug has worn off my completely. I've read many reports of this lasting anywhere from 20-72hrs so I know my mind must be playing tricks on me. Unless I've got another 16hours of mild simulation to look forward to (I hope not!) right now I just feel slightly stimulated. No euphoria whatsoever at the moment. None of that real "I need to do something now!" feeling. Weird. I do, however, have that greedy-coke feeling of "go one, just take another line" However, I will leave that for another time when I'm more familiar with the drug. Driving test tomorrow which I'm trying to avoid ending up being either over-stimulated(up all night on desoxy) or under-stimulated and drowsy (due to taking benzos to get to sleep)
4:26PM[T+4hr,50min]Not much has changed since I last posted. Still so-so just mild stimulation. I would say only slightly higher than caffeine if I'm being honest. I've also found that my motivation has dropped significantly. I'm also angrier for some reason. I'm disappointed that this is all the drug has to offer. I'm also getting annoying at little things (ie; my brother blasting the TV when I'm clearly listing to music.) Normally things like this wouldn't annoy me. weird. I still have that greedy coke desire to take more. I don't think it'll get much better than this..(so much for 20hrs, eh?)
5:23PM[T+5hr,47min]Heart-Rate: 92BPM I've spent the last hour reading through F&Bs Trip report (which was very hard to do as desoxy makes you want to change what you're doing every 5minutes) It appears that a lot of people are having different reactions to this. So far, for me the drug lasted 3-5hours I imagine I'll be stimulated for the next 10-15 though. This drug is unlike any I've ever tried. For example - erowid charts usually look like this I imagine the chart for desoxy would differ significantly. Most charts rise until a peak and then drop. Desoxy seems to rise, drop, and then rise again. Like a roller-coaster. Theres been times when I've felt nearly baseline and then get a sudden rush of energy and euphoria a few minutes later. So far, it looks like I have a body chemistry similar to Xorkoth who says;
Although I'm pretty stimulated at the moment (leg shaking, energetic,etc) If I could buy a drug in the shop legally that put me into this state instantly I probably wouldn't waste my money on it. However others say that there's a increase in euphoria/energy at the 8th hour. I'll just need to wait and hope I am one of those peopleXorkoth said:
7PM[T+7hr,38min]Heart-Rate: 88BPM Not much change since my last update. Gradually coming down. Even though the euphoria ended for the most post 3½ hours ago I've had gradually decreasing mild stimulation since. For example I stopped shaking my leg about 30minutes ago
9PM[T+9hr,38min]Heart-rate: 88BPM I think I've crashed? I'm unsure as it's a first experience. My head is feeling fuzzy and I'm feeling more of the fuzzy-mind intoxicated instead of clear-headed stimulation. My back and leg muscles are sore. My mouth tastes kinda funny. The kinda feeling when you feel the inside of your mouth after a E binge sober and realize its been through a war. Although it's not bad at all, it's noticeable. My nose is went stuffy again also
12PM[T+13hr,38min]Heart-rate: 88BPM Heart rate has remained constant for the past 5hours. I would say I'm pretty much baseline, or rather, I have been parallel to it for several hours. Nothing enjoyable or recreational now just "awake-ness" not even motivation. Its just like I've woke up. I'll probably end up taking a benzo in a few hours to sleep because I see no point in staying up.
12:25PM[T+14hr,02min]Heart-rate: 80BPM Enough of this jittery, amphetamine like high. 10mg valium down my neck!
4:30AM[T+18hr,07min]Heart-rate: 84BPM WTF I'm still up! The valium did nothing. Just took 2mg xanax. I'm not even stimulated at all. I'm just...awake. I feel like I've just woke up
9:30AM[T+23hr,07min]This is the time I got to sleep, woke up at 12 and didn't felt as if I'd gotten a full nights sleep.
FIN
Summary:
Euphoria: euphoria was prominent for the first 3 ½ hours then I had 30minutes of anxiety. At the 4th hour euphoria was gone and never returned.
Appetite Although I could probably eat anything put in front of my I'm never throughout these 20hr had the desire to eat. So I guess it could be considered a suppressant
Stimulation: I am still stimulated almost 14hours into it. It's not an enjoyable stimulation at the moment. For the first 5hours or so it was nice, and motivational. I got lots of stuff done. But right now I feel pretty tired even though I know I probably couldn't sleep
Libido: Saw little to no increase in sexual appetite. Severe shrinkage down there also. Not an aphrodisiac like MDPV
Physical AppearanceYou could talk to your boss or parents easily on the dosage I took. No visible effects. I think there was slight pupil dilation and jaw clenching but not noticeable
Conclusion: I have much still to learn about this drug. For me it only lasted 4 hours with 12hours of after effects (mild stimulation) if I'm being honest. I will need to try a larger dose. So basically, it lasted 2hours (euphoria) after my 7mg redose. Really weird, I was expecting a lot more from this drug as I'd read countless reports of people up 20-72hours. Maybe my body chemistry doesnt suit it? This is a drug you'd take if you had a long day of manual labour ahead of you. However, you get distracted easily and can't do a task for more than 15minutes. You can also quite happily sit still in a chair watching TV for 15minutes which would be near to impossible on MDPV. All in all, I'd take MDPV over Desoxy any day. But as Xorkoth stated, many have said the same and changed their minds
substancecode_desoxypipradrol
explevel_firsttime
categorycode_solo
categorycode_disappointing
categorycode_recreational
categorycode_indoors
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