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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

samadhi_smiles said:
you mean tyrosine not tyramine, right?
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Yes that's what I meant - still a bit overexcitable from hunting down a certain BL who's spouting unverified claims as gospel truth!

*blushes at such a silly mistake*


I found myself developing ocd, slight anxiety and strong audio and visual hallucinations after two days or so, My vision is slightly odd to the extent it morphs facebook pictures into pornstar esque shots for a few seconds till I focus.
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Sounds characteistic of sleep deprivation
 
I used to do theatre and touring work, I find sleep deprivation basically makes things unreal, it doesn't really create the apparition style stim psychosis that all tweakers know and love. I think the mechanism is related to dopamine not being able to fufil its messenger role and causing various anomalies I think.
It's evident on loads of stims, and seems to differ depnding on how exactly the dopamine is affected.

Desoxypipradrol is really clear headed for me, apart from the first time I used it (maybe too much) when I really noticed the ocd and tendency to do really random things.

The visual aspect generally kicks in with the stimulation for me, at least very mildly (very pale white waves) depending on how much of a tweaker you are it can get pretty intense, all objects in your visual field moving violently changing into people etc, it isn't paranoid or negative, but having things jumping into your face gets annoying after a while.

The audio aspect is really evident, no other stim does this as far as I know, again it seems to kick in slightly at the same time as the visuals small noises like squeaks and animal noises can sound utterly different, then if you are prone to the whole stim paranoia thing, you can have great fun sitting in a room twitching as you hear rapping on the windows, shuffling by the door and voices discussing you in stage whispers.
 
A friend of mine recently ingested desoxypipradrol and then snorted Fluoro Tropacocaine afterwards, they hadn't slept the previous night.
The combination of the two drugs made them psychotic and they were hospitalised and given high doses of temazepam. After a while they consulted a mental health specialist who discharged them.
Whilst travelling back home the various benzo's (they had also taken valium to try to combat the anxiety) wore off and a combination of this and sleep deprivation once again landed them in hospital, where they spent the night.
They returned home the next day and experienced extreme paranoia and delusions about police watching the house.
They are now fully recovered.

Would the combination of Fluoro tropacocaine and desoxypipradrol be responsible for the psychosis that ensued? Two DARI's resulting in too much dopamine in the synapse?

SWIM racked out a small sample line of Fluoro Tropacocaine
as his first experiance with the chemical, it had the appearance
of white cristals, and was in the citrate form.

It looked about half the size of a normal cocaine line, however
probably was a little greater as it was in a denser cristally form.

After snorting the substance SWIM felt a slight numbing followed
by burning sensation to the nose, SWIM imediatly felt the effects.

Unfortunatly SWIM had taken desoxy earlier that day that seriously
potentated the effects of the FTCC to a degree that the half
line felt like I had snorted upwards of a gram of cocaine, and
lasted well over 10 hours.

SWIM ended up suffering paraniod delusions after being given high
dosese of vallium and temazepam after being hospitalised, and
was sectioned overnight under the mental health act.
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I apologise for the use of the term swim.
 
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i have taken desoxy every morning for the last couple of weeks never exceeding 1mg, and usually taking about 600ug. i truly hope it is safe because i could see it being a permanent ADHD solution for me. call me crazy but 1mg produces just as much stimulation as a 17mg concerta! it is also worth noting that the combination of methylphenidate and desoxy is not an especially interesting one, it seems to increase the anxiety and 'shell shocked' feeling i get at the end of the day.

my main issue is the trouble with sleep (even low dose taken 1st thing in the morning) and the inconsistency of the effects, sometimes it dosent seem to hit me for hours and then BAM! other times it feels like im rapped in a silk blanket of stimulation throughout the day.
 
and if you read the fine print (rationale for design) you may note references to amp addicts as the target population...

militant it is, but i have noted no adrenergic action, just a fairly mild DA reuptake inhibition state - not a buzz but on par w/good doppio espresso

although it made sleep not entirely necessary, it never affected sleep paterns per se - 10mg and 30 minutes later, sleep easy if the body is horizontal. that said, pepole with undamaged metabolisms report sleep dep lsting up to a week from one-time dosing.

an amasing property of this one is it overrides the action of serotonergic psychs to the point where desoxy and mdpv were proclaimed to be anti-drugs.

noted effects on cardiovasc. system by many - never noted, guess i'm completely heartless.
 
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this idea about desoxy interacting with psychedelics is interesting, i havent explicitly combined the two but i have used them in close proximity and experienced no cross-tolerance that i can notice. i know there is no real reason to compare the two other than they are both RC stims but ill say it again MDPV dosent hold a candle to desoxy in my mind. its still rough around the edges but with practice i feel i could master it. anyone know the active dose of the d-isomer?
 
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different horses for different courses - desoxy for relaxing 4th-7th day of the doof, the PV is for RECABLING....
 
I took 14 mg orally roughly 24 hours ago and now I am feeling no noticeable effects. The come up was gentle and as it increased I became more and more OCD. I did not eat anything for dinner - a rare occurrence for me - even though I had prepared a meal. That was after about three hours after taking the desoxy. After having a relatively enjoyable time bumbling around doing nothing in particular I went to the computer to continue doing nothing in particular. There, I tried to finish the citation for a paper and would go over and over, redoing and rearranging the text, adding and deleting punctuation to make sure that it was in perfect conformity with the mighty MLA. After about 45 minutes I was finally satisfied with the resulting completion of 4 sources cited. By this time it had been about eight hours since I had dosed.
After that it was the time that I usually go to sleep so I lied down in my bed and thought about many things which I should write down. I turned on the light and got a pen and paper and to my dismay the inspiration left nearly immediately. Predictably, with the lights off again and the note pad and pen tucked away the ideas came back. I rested for about seven hours contently thinking.
When it came time to get up the majority of the positive effects had diminished greatly. I wasn't that tired - it had been around 15 hours since taking the stuff - but felt quite morose. Throughout the day I would go through periods where I was quite talkative and content.
The physical effects were much more than I expected. For over twenty hours my mouth was going crazy. I have had this happen for shorter periods of time on MDMA and amphetamines but I am not sure if it can be considered bruxia. My teeth did not grind but my tongue remained in constant motion; at the peak of the experience I was swallowing probably once every ten to twenty seconds. While producing heroic amounts saliva my mouth was still parched. By the end my tongue had taken on a hue similar to the color of red meat when left uncovered for a day. For those who have not had the joy of seeing that, it is the shade of stereotypical zombie skin minus some green.
 
i just want to say that i have been using desoxy daily for about three months now never at doses more than 1mg (usually about 500mcg). i find it to be a *truly* amazing substance, i have absolutely no desire to abuse it and think it actually works for my adhd better than any of the conventional treatments i have tried, when i read about people taking 5mg+ of this stuff it gives me the shivers because 1mg really produces profoundly strong effects (elevated body temp, sweating, pressured speech)

can anyone speak as to the dangers of daily use versus methylphenidate, or whats sorts of preventative measures should be taken to prevent potential toxicity, a daily dose of idebanone?
 
^^have you used adderall(amp/d-amp)? I used to get Rx'd methylphenidate but I hated it, lousy stim IMO, had tons of unopened bottles lying around. LOOOVE addreall tho, 1pill in the morn 1 in the noon perfect for my add/mood/just about everything(miracle drug IMO).
>>How would desoxy compare to adderall, or is it closer to methylphenidate, or is it it's own thang? I'm really looking for something to replace adderall as my insurance is gone. I was thinking either this or PEA/phenylalanine but I have my doubts about using those 2.
 
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i think desoxy is far superior to AMP in a lot of ways, when you get down to it AMP is better for short term projects (cramming for a test, writing a long paper etc.) but daily low dose (25mg or less) therapeutic use took a toll on my body you would not believe . MPH is FAR less toxic feeling, less of an appetite suppressant, less stomach acid production, less flaking skin, less looking like a junkie. its also less euphoric but thats a good thing in the middle of psychology class. part of the reason it feels so much less toxic is because it is. desoxy feels quite a bit like MPH for me slightly less useful and more euphoric, but one of the best stims i have ever used.
 
i know most people say that desoxy is stable but ive noticed my solution change to a light butterscotch color over the course of three or four months...but no noted change in potency.
 
For anyone without much experience with stimulants looking at this thread, I took 4mg and it kept me awake for about 54 hours. I could have forced myself to sleep a little earlier, but be careful with this!
 
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hamhurricane said:
i know most people say that desoxy is stable but ive noticed my solution change to a light butterscotch color over the course of three or four months...but no noted change in potency.
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hamhurricane, even some of the most stable molecules cannot handle being stored in solution. If kept dry and crystalline, that shouldn't happen.
 
Does anyone have any experience in dissolving this stuff in water and/or vodka? Will it remain stable?
 
hamhurricane said:
i know most people say that desoxy is stable but ive noticed my solution change to a light butterscotch color over the course of three or four months...but no noted change in potency.
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Fungahhh said:
Does anyone have any experience in dissolving this stuff in water and/or vodka? Will it remain stable?
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Although 2-DPMP (2-diphenylmethyl piperidine == desoxypipradrol) is a relatively stable compound stored at a reasonable temperature and away from contact with chemicals prone to reacting with it, its storage in a non-sterile solution may expose it to more adverse conditions such as the enzymatic action of micro-organisms - organisms that might pollute the solution even if the 2-DPMP itself remains unscathed, which seems uncertain.

Addition of various preservative and/or anti-microbial substances such as alcohol, benzoic acid or its salts, benzalkonium chloride, etc. seems likely to extend the shelf-life of the solution.
 
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