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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

TheSpade said:
I shall certainly be keeping the dose low if I consume, being awake for days is my idea of hell.
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Oh come on, tripping out from sleep deprivation is intense stuff; and as a bonus it is often comical in hindsight. I wonder how this drug would affect you beyond the 72hr mark in comparison to the well known effects of amphetamine psychosis that beset the user after a couple days or so without sleep.
 
hmmm. its been about 20 hours now. took 10mg at 8:30pm, fell asleep at 4am, woke up at 6am, its now 4:38pm. the last hour has been me trying to keep the lid on the "anxiety can"... its a can of anxiety in my stomach that is just about to burst open. My head feels like someones hand it resting on my brain, under my skull. there was a period where my heart felt like it was picked up out f my chest and then thrown back into it. That was... unsettling... I'm scared of talking to people, but i catch myself talking to people and i wonder where the fear went. odd.

have done heaps of work, but found it hard to settle on one thing for a while. and i really really really really want a bong, but thats 3 hours away at home :(

feeling very tired right now.
 
One good thing to be said about desoxy is it's incredibly low toxicity (at least physically). Like pipradrol, it requires 100's of times the effective dose to reach the toxic dose.

If it had been hideously toxic, I would not have been anyrthing like as enthusiastic about it because I know some people do frankly stupid things with drugs
 
does anyone else find desoxy makes them smell funny? or am i just imagining it? I've got a cold and a blocked nose but i swear i smell odd.

It doesnt make me as paranoid about meth, but now that i think i smell bad, im paranoid that i do smell bad and i swear my workmate just held their breath as they walked past me. haha!

it also lets me eat, which is a godsend :)
 
fastandbulbous said:
One good thing to be said about desoxy is it's incredibly low toxicity (at least physically). Like pipradrol, it requires 100's of times the effective dose to reach the toxic dose.

If it had been hideously toxic, I would not have been anyrthing like as enthusiastic about it because I know some people do frankly stupid things with drugs
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I just wanted to ask y you say it has an extremly low toxicity?
I know you are very experienced, and i think a chemist, but i found it to be horrible. It may have been an individual reaction, but let me explain. It will serve as a warning to others, and an embarassment to me.

I ordered a gram of desoxy, after lots of experience with mdpv.

i tried 5mg first and it was fine but not really noticeable.

i then tried 5mg in the morning, and when it wasnt doing much tried anothe 7.5 or so. then i felt it, but it seemed to wear off quickly, but i think it comes in waves. anyway i proceded to dose it like i would mdpv(stupid). I ended up doing well over 50-60mg within a 24 hour period. i had an enjoyable time, but was awake around 72 hours. after getting a nights sleep, the next day i had horrible chest pain and trouble breathing. this proceded for the next two weeks horribly, and uncomfortable for at least a month. Along with the chest pain and breathing problems, i had pain in what seemed to be every organ. It hurt to pee, my ears were constantly popping and uncomfortable. I also had strange ticks, or twiches in my arms and legs. also had black floaters n my vision.

all problems are gone now, an inhaler helped along with pain killers for the pain.

Im not sure why this happened, or what it was, as the doctors couldnt tell me except that it shocked my system.

my wife had the same amount with no problems, but be careful with this substance.

I was stupid and learned my lesson to go slow. I wont be trying it again, got rid of it all.

I will stick to mdpv, but others will get enjoyment from desoxy.

I just thought i would write my experience down, as a warning and so you can all call me stupid for doing what i did.

I am glad the experience is over.

Again be careful. Others have reported similiar pain, after high doses.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Rather than 'lets you eat' I think a better description would be it doesn't fuck your appetite like other central stims. I can eat a 12" pizza on big doses of amphetamine, so 'lets you eat' seems somewhat subjective
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Well thats why I said "lets me eat" :) I have trouble with the physical process of eating on amps. They make it really hard to swallow. Not so with desoxypipradol.

Strange stuff. keeps me up but doesnt wake me up. I have managed to eventually get to sleep each night after a 10mg dose in the morning. Concentration gets enhanced sometimes but finding something interesting is hard.

I swear to god it makes my sweat stink. *must not focus on possible non-stench*
 
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You arent the first one to report smellling bad on it, and i noticed it too. Desoxy makes your sweat smell, and when i go outside on mdpv, it smells like cum.
 
I just wanted to ask y you say it has an extremly low toxicity?
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Terms like 'low toxicity' are not an absolute, but refers to the majority of cases. After all a dose of aspirin or penicillin can kill some people, but they're both classed as low toxicity. The hydroxylated version, pipradrol is also classed as low toxicity. What you experienced sounds a lot like anxiety induced symptoms along with the dopaminergic overload that people taking L-DOPA for Parkinson's get - I've heard of other people suffering the same after taking frankly silly doses. When something has an active dose of 1-2mg when considered for clinical use, you don't go off the deep end and take 40x that dose in a 24 hour period; an equivalent would be taking 400mg (40 x 10mg) of dexamphetamine in 24 hours with little tolerance.

That would produce the same sort of symptoms
 
fastandbulbous said:
Terms like 'low toxicity' are not an absolute, but refers to the majority of cases. After all a dose of aspirin or penicillin can kill some people, but they're both classed as low toxicity. The hydroxylated version, pipradrol is also classed as low toxicity. What you experienced sounds a lot like anxiety induced symptoms along with the dopaminergic overload that people taking L-DOPA for Parkinson's get - I've heard of other people suffering the same after taking frankly silly doses. When something has an active dose of 1-2mg when considered for clinical use, you don't go off the deep end and take 40x that dose in a 24 hour period; an equivalent would be taking 400mg (40 x 10mg) of dexamphetamine in 24 hours with little tolerance.

That would produce the same sort of symptoms
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thanks for the reply, and i know it was a stupid dose.

At the time i had only read things about it having a low toxicity and a high range of safe doses. And like you said, it was certainly an individual reaction, as others have done the same and not gotten the symptoms.

Definitly be careful with this one as you said its effective at low doses so not much reason to be stupid like i was. I dont wish that month of hell on anyone.
 
Just curious about the stinky sweat thing.. has anyone ELSE told you this, or have you just been choking on yourselves? =p

If you haven't had an outside opinion, what are the odds that this stuff just boosts your sense of smell and you notice it a lot more?
 
well when i got into the car my girlfriend said "whats that lovely smell?", "me, i stink, i think my sweat smells weird or my clothes are old or something" i replied. "no its a really nice smell, aftershave or something?".

i had put on some deoderant before i got on the train but i could still smell the stench and hardly smell the deoderant, but my girlfriend swears that she could smell the deoderant and that it smelt nice and not at all like ballsweat.

it made me wonder "if you can have visual and auditory hallucinations or distortions, why not of the other senses, like smell"
 
on DXM I can only drink water out of certain containers because the smell of plastic or metals gets too intense
 
Chest pain

bhmoab1 said:
I just wanted to ask y you say it has an extremly low toxicity?
I know you are very experienced, and i think a chemist, but i found it to be horrible. It may have been an individual reaction, but let me explain. It will serve as a warning to others, and an embarassment to me.

I ordered a gram of desoxy, after lots of experience with mdpv.

i tried 5mg first and it was fine but not really noticeable.

i then tried 5mg in the morning, and when it wasnt doing much tried anothe 7.5 or so. then i felt it, but it seemed to wear off quickly, but i think it comes in waves. anyway i proceded to dose it like i would mdpv(stupid). I ended up doing well over 50-60mg within a 24 hour period. i had an enjoyable time, but was awake around 72 hours. after getting a nights sleep, the next day i had horrible chest pain and trouble breathing. this proceded for the next two weeks horribly, and uncomfortable for at least a month. Along with the chest pain and breathing problems, i had pain in what seemed to be every organ. It hurt to pee, my ears were constantly popping and uncomfortable. I also had strange ticks, or twiches in my arms and legs. also had black floaters n my vision.

all problems are gone now, an inhaler helped along with pain killers for the pain.

Im not sure why this happened, or what it was, as the doctors couldnt tell me except that it shocked my system.

my wife had the same amount with no problems, but be careful with this substance.

I was stupid and learned my lesson to go slow. I wont be trying it again, got rid of it all.

I will stick to mdpv, but others will get enjoyment from desoxy.

I just thought i would write my experience down, as a warning and so you can all call me stupid for doing what i did.

I am glad the experience is over.

Again be careful. Others have reported similiar pain, after high doses.
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Negligent overdozing of Desoxy resulted in extreme chest- or stomachpain some
ten hours later. Could not walk or stand upright. Painkillers seemed to help
hardly at all. After 3-4 hours later it started to fade att the same pace as it came.
Desoxy is still my favourite, but I won´t overdo it.
Neither will you? OK
 
I believe someone here was wanting to know about smoking the HCL at a smaller place. The outcome was predictable. A total of 28mg was done within one hour and there was some definite stimulation, jaw tension, as well as other muscles being tense. 2.8mg oral one hour ago and not much to report. It left quite a bit of white-ish film in the glass (small bubble at end w/a small hole..you know which kind I mean). Was in a 50/50 water/everclear solution. This was relayed to me by a rabbit in India (vacation) /disclaimer.

A question for the experienced/knowledgeable: Are the 'intense' euphoria waves mostly from smoking the base?
 
this substance sounds really interesting. and to think i almost totally ignored this thread cuz i thought the name was too complicated.
 
3mg insufflated followed by 3mg some 3hrs later as a booster when I was feeling just great from the first 3mg... going out... dinner (didn't manage to eat it all up, though I did eat most of it), wine, later beer.... and I had 200mg methylone with me for extra fun... wasn't sure about any hyperstimulation that might ensue from the combo so I had me some 0.5mg alprazolam with all that at some point... and it was all good. Bliss, almost...

When I got home in the wee hours, however, I realised how the stim/downer combo can make for poor judgment. I ended up eating some 100mg of butylone to enhance my wellbeing and then ended up licking a bag that must have had some 5-10mg (really hard to tell, with hindsight) of alprazolam powder left in it... the state following that is hard to describe... not unlike a speedball or something (say, opiates & coke together)... but a tad slow and occasionally I felt like I was not even there... even then I didn't sleep until the evening of the following day... kind of floating through the day... Anyway, I'd never had such a high dose of benzos, ever, and the comedown of the whole affair (uppers, and downers... my GABA receptor crying out for new stimulation and my dopamine levels at an all-time low) is a lot like that from an alcoholic all-night coke-binge and I've been battling with my anxiety, listlessness & despondency for a day and a half now, looking at my never-enough-pleasure-principle mentality critically and wondering if I'm not, after all, bipolar or something- I mean, the euphoria I got was amazing, and then I end up feeling so low. I just pride myself on the fact I got through the days of yesterday and today without self-medicating in any way, though tonight I think a little ketamine might be in order... but I digress, this isn't really just about Desoxy any more...

just for the record - the above scribblings are about combining with alcohol, benzos & methylone (itself a dopaminey substance) - would repeat, but probably with less desoxy and I suppose without the benzo. Though it struck me how approachable I seem to get when on a benzo in public (never done that before) - I seem to become almost as magnetic as on methylone... folks just talk to me and come close to me like I've got the magic. Well, 1-2 days later, it feels profoundly un-magic... tbc
 
Ximot, while I understand the urge to add another 3mg to the first lot, once tou've done something like that it's best not to carry around any other drugs other htan possibly enough benzo to take the edge off it; def not 10mg of xanax and 200mg of methylone as you must have known what was going to be the end result. Higher doses of desoxy just seem (with me anyway) to induce a state difficult to distinguish from hypomania (if you do suffer from bipolar depression, you'll have thought that state far too familiar - that's how I can tell when I've had enough desoxy, when I feel like I've suddenly been catapulted into a hypomanic episode). That said, even with natural hypomanic states, insight into being in a hypomanic state isn't always obvious, it's just over the course of 20 odd years of knowing it happens I've learned to recognize certain cues (lack of critical self judgement or poor impulse control are the two big indicators for me).

Even then, it's hard to turn your back on it because it does tend to turn you into the life & soul of the party. If it reaches the stage where you could talk just about anybody into bed, when you really don't want to, then alarm bells should start ringing VERY loud in your head.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing a moralizing lecture as I've done exactly the same as you more times than I can count, it's just I know there's a price to be paid for it. Don't berate yourself for it, just make a point of being aware next time you find yourself in that sort of territory.

PS If you can find that happening without any sort of drug trigger, the welcome to the world of affective mood disorder conditions - a very two edged sword to be sure
 
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