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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

feel something, I guess. maybe the 7yrs I was prescribed ritalin has something to do with it? adderall doesn't do much for me either.
 
Pseudo: 4 mg won't produce a mind blowing experience. The levels that might induce some serious euphoria are associated with unwanted side effects. Notable side effects with high doses, particularly with repeated doses (1/day): Hyperkinesia, paranoia, compulsiveness. Neuromotor effects can probably get pretty severe/irritating, with trouble coordinating and timing movement. I guess it's pretty similar to side effects from DA agonists.
 
maybe this just isn't for me. I'll finish up what I have and hopefully will like it in someway. my girlfriend, on the other hand, is in the "do things" mode right now, 4mg too.
 
vagrant, you are retarded. Your posts in this thread have been irresponsible and crazy so far, with you breaking numerous promises to yourself, freaking out, and acting a fool far too often. You're on drugs, you think you're cool, and you're risking your life and the obscurity of this drug on some retarded whim.

If you are really brain dead enough to risk your life like this, work your way up to your dose.\

ed: and if you say that the post was a fantasy- you're assuring people you could do it but won't, what role can that possibly play in harm reduction other than to drive some newb lurker to kill himself?
 
^ LOL but true also!


MDPVagrant I realise you weren't serious, BUT it was still a fairly fucking outrageous idea by anyones standards. The type of thing I would 'maybe' post then think 'oh fuckshit' when I woke up.

It doesn't bear thinking about.
 
^^ Perhaps, but it's amazing how much better you feel when your sleeping habits are good. Although, some people regularly sleep TOO much and that's also quite bad in my experience. My little sister used to sleep 11-12 hours a day and was always tired and grumpy.
 
Has anyone else smoked it, or even gone crazy and injected it? Smoked, it hits you in agbout 10 seconds and KEEPS rushing for about 2 hours. I would imagine a crack user would LOVE the rush of a big (say 50-100mg) hit of the stuff. Is the freebase a liquid (I assume it is)? WOuld making a carbonate salt make it better for smoking? Smoking isn't big and it isn't clever... but man it works so well with this stuff.
 
Nope. I still plan to write a report about my experiments with 250mg of it (not all at once, not at all!).

My most interesting experience was after using it for 4 days in a row. I got some sleep each night but not a lot, and although I wasn't tired at all (didn't feel it anyway), on the 4th night I began to experience some bizarre effects that I can only assume were sleep deprivation.

On that 4th night, I took an extra 10mg dose after having had 2 10mg doses earlier in the day. I was going to be having sex, so just for fun (desoxy makes it extra fun =D) I took a dose of an herbal sex pill called Ejaculoid. It contains a number of things, I can't find my notes now, but I know it included yohimbe, long jack, and like 6 others.

Anyway, sex was very good, and afterwards I stayed up and smoked a bowl of really good nuggets. All of a sudden, after exhalaing the first hit, my entire body started buzzing with extreme pleasure, almost to the point of being dissociative. My field of vision became washed in faint swirling colors. I guess I can't describe the body high much with words, but it was the most intensely pleasurable body high I've ever had, although emotionally the euphoria was not very strong.

I went to lay down and put in a CD of assorted Boards of Canada tunes I had never heard before (thanks F&B for mentioning them numerous times, causing me to find them). I closed my eyes, and so began a somewhat psychedelic experience. I noticed there was a lattice of color, some sort of spinning web, that became brighter the more I rolled my head around on my pillow. This spinning web moved with the music and was quite breathtaking. At this point my body felt like it was phasing out of existence.

This continued for a few hours, and I never ended up getting any sleep. Occasionally I seemed to "break through" this spinning lattice web and extremely vivid and bright scenes would confront me, symbolic and highly realistic. It's been too long so I can't recall what they were.

The next day was not bad, really. I was up all day, did complex tasks, and went to bed the next night. After so little sleep (this was the end of my desoxy but I had been experimenting for a week and a half or so), I required lots for a few days, and then I was back to normal.

Reading back on what I just wrote, it doesn't sound too amazing, but really, it was. I'd never had that type of drug effect before.
 
Damn, I feel like I am missing out here.

I think this was hands down the worst stimulant I've tried so far. All it did was keep me awake and on the verge of panic the whole time. I couldn't really focus very well, and never got anything resembling euphoria out of it. It pretty seriously screwed my sleeping patterns up as well.

I did try smoking smaller amounts of it, which was pretty easy on the lungs, but that didn't change much aside from kicking in pretty quick.

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Ejaculoid. lol.

BoC is fantastic, especially "Music has the right to children" (and in particular, the track "Pete Stands Alone". I listened to it on the edge of a mountain face in the latter part of a mushroom trip and watched the sun set. amazing.)
 
fizzacyst said:
Damn, I feel like I am missing out here.

I think this was hands down the worst stimulant I've tried so far. All it did was keep me awake and on the verge of panic the whole time. I couldn't really focus very well, and never got anything resembling euphoria out of it. It pretty seriously screwed my sleeping patterns up as well.
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Well, in my trials (all done within a short period of time, like 1.5 to 2 weeks), I had days of not liking it and days of liking it. As I got used to it, I pretty consistently liked it. Reliably, if taken in the morning, it would first jack me up and make me sweat (the sweating kept up all day, and was smelly - I don't usually smell - which was the worst side-effect). Then I'd work all day in the zone, get out of work, go home, and by then I'd be in the really great part, pleasurable body high, strong urge to babble on and on, and so forth.

The experience I described above was a one-time thing, but really quite awesome. It definitely took a toll though. Not the kind of toll that too much amphetamine or any amount of MDMA causes, though.

I also forgot to mention that on the day of the experience I outlined above, I had had about 7mg of amphetamine sulphate in the early evening which definitely added to the physical aspect. Hey, what can I say, I had been using it for days on end (desoxy), and I was getting compulsive. 8o

This stuff was hard to get the feel of, that's for sure. But I like it. But not enough to seek out more.
 
MDPVagrant said:
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I think it's fair that a substance like this (both highly potent and very long-acting) require extraordinary harm reduction measures if recreational use is intended. Anyone who jumps in half-cocked will pay the price for their poor judgment and lack of common sense.
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Yeah, thats why I held off on messing with it until there were enough reports to get a solid feel for how long it lasted. I think one needs to be extremely careful with exceptionally long lasting drugs of any nature.

I did have sedatives sufficient to go elephant hunting and whatnot, but they didn't do a lot to ease the tension/anxiety. By the time it came to try and get some sleep I didn't want to take to much and risk sleeping until noon the next day.

A few days of like 3 hours of sleep takes its toll on my pretty hard these days. In high school I pretty much lived like that aside from the weekends (minus the drugs). I'd have to use the stuff the next day to get me through, as I was so tired. I recognized that cycle before I got into it, decided it wasn't worth it.
 
The freebase is solid. Formed nice, long, clear crystals, even though it was only a small amount I saw.
 
You may need an extended break, a few months of totally abstaining from stimulant use.
 
Genetic downregulation of dopamine receptors from months of overloading.
The body responds to chronically excessive catecholamines by decreasing receptor binding sites (this is true with most receptor/ligand systems). The process takes months to occur and months or longer to reverse. Given extreme use of DRIs over a long span of time, it would make sense that one's dopamine receptors would be more shy. The only fix is to stop. Bodybuilders are very familiar with this process after using steroids and growth hormones, and there is no difference when it comes to stims and opiates... In long term meth users, one theory is that they never regenerate those receptors and are consequently condemned to a life of being behind the dopamine, serotonin and norepi eightball... hence the chronic depression, mania and relapses... physical withdrawals are not a good meter of the damage done by an addiction, rather the final tally would be found in a receptor count...
 
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