Stimulants Desire to try Meth, and not very comfortable about it.

[Salandrion]

So recently I have had a very strong urge to try Meth. By recently I mean for the last 3 or so months. This concerns me and I would like someone to give me a balanced view on the realities of Meth. I am a college student with a very balanced life going on. I also use other substances infrequently (MDMA, Psychedelics) and frequently but irregularly (Alcohol, Cannabis, Adderal) so I am able to balance real life and partying to a point that makes me comfortable.


What really concerns me is the realities of Meth addiction. Is this a situation similar to IV Heroin where you touch it and it sort of never leaves the back of your mind and more often then not leads to some sort of habit? Or is it similar to Cocaine where the addiction potential is there, but often IMO overstated.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

It completely depends on the person, the ROA and doses used, your individual predisposition for addiction (and everyone is different in which drug or types of drugs affect them the most addictively), your life situation at the time, the availability and quality of the drug, and so on.

Especially when used in large quantities and/or by fast acting ROAs I found it more immediately addicting than heroin; heroin addiction kind of creeps up on you (*also sources support this, that meth is faster addicting than heroin). But I found that for me, meth's addictiveness was nowhere near as powerful as heroin addiction and was much easier for me to stop because meth doesn't create anywhere near the level of physical dependence as heroin (and has certain side effects that heroin doesn't).

Oral use is the ROA I would recommend if you are going to try it, it feels less addictive, smoother, and lasts longer. Although I would still often get that feeling of wanting to do more when it wore off, or wanting to do it again the next weekend.

BUT this is all just me, YMMV for the reasons I mentioned above.

Plenty of people do become hopelessly addicted to meth. You can't know in advance if it will happen to you. And it doesn't have to be all day every day thing to be an addiction. Sometimes you can get mentally addicted to doing it a couple times a month, or every time you party you will feel like there is something missing if you don't do some, or you can have short addictive bursts where you do a multi-day binge. It's really a complex thing.

Meth is generally considered more physiologically addictive than cocaine. One site ascribes it to meth's long duration, after which you are left lacking dopamine and needing more meth just to feel normal. I also found the effects more enjoyable than cocaine personally. I've known people who used coke and didn't become addicted and did become addicted to meth, and vice versa. I think everyone will have their own opinion on which is more mentally addicting.

 

[Folley]

DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!



Forreal. Don't.


I was in your position once.. and I decided to try it one time... It's literally the most addictive drug I've ever tried. Luckily, I realized that (after a 3 day binge) and haven't used it since... but I still have cravings for it quite often.

Meth is an awful drug. Sooo many side effects and the comedown is just never worth it.



I'd agree with Dancer and say that if you do it, definitely only use it oral... NEVER smoke that shit. It becomes a whole other beast when you shoot/smoke it... I've watched hardcore amphetamine addicts fall off the deep end after trying meth for the first time.
It's just too hard of a drug to control your usage of.... just don't do it.....





Oh, well, at least you live in Pennsylvania. Good luck trying to find it there anyways lol, it's scarce as fuck over there

 

[Flabu]

Unfortunately, meth is not one of those drugs that you just "try". It will take over your thinking patterns even if you dont use it after that one "try". Which will eventually lead you to do it again.

If your going to do it, just be ready to go for a long fun horrible ride.

 

[Salandrion]

Thanks, I really appreciate the objective advice. I've always just looked at it as a stronger version of Adderall, but I guess I'm wrong.

Folley, I'd be more likely to get a cap full of meth than some real moon rocks in my area. Keeps my brain level though having forced drought lol

 

[choco1ate]

in a perfect world nobody would do meth, but yeah

 

[blight12]

To put it simply the biggest risks are that the high is far far better then other stims, the much longer duration of effect results in identifying a shitload of other appealing aspects and the biggest issue being that it is (or perceived to be) a very useful and functional drug which often results in crossing that evil line from rec drug use to regular functional use which usually creates that dreaded life fucking addiction you think only happens to other people.

Before I would do coke or mcat maybe twice a month on a social weekend evening if drunk enough and now i do meth every weekend without fail by myself for 3 day binges at a time. It has way more applicable and enjoyable opportunities when you would consider it then other stims and that damn duration of effect ensures its a multi day way of life type drug you can use at any time and not a social night out high you might only cave in to now and then if very drunk.

I have only managed to maintain current usage without escalation since i fortunately dont find it functional for whatever reason. If you are going to do it, make sure you never use it for anything other then fun and anything anti constructive. Doing this has resulted in the novelty starting to wear off after 6 months and starting to realize the epic waste of time it really is and im hoping this will help it stopping soon. But as i say i got lucky and didnt find it useful.

The addiction is also not like i found coke to be where you dont plan to do it but get cravings and give in sometimes. I have never gotten cravings for meth. Rather i just do it because thats what i do on weekends. It just becomes part of your life and bypasses the "avoid the cravings phase". Its just so good that it becomes another thing you do that feels like a natural addition to your life without much conscious thought.

And all the above is only oral/nasal ROI. No way im going to try anything else as it would assure my destruction for sure.

 

[BrickSquadBby]

i tried it one time.
that one time turned into a million times.
i was binging hard for the past 6 months,
the only break i took was when my ass went to detox 4 times and rehab once
i was hospitalized from dehydration cuz i thought all liquids were contaminated
then i walked out of the hospital the next day, straight to my dealers to get more
that shit has a hold on me, it fucks with your brain hard

 

[tricomb]

Don't do it. You will never forget the feeling, it totally will be at the back of your mind, calling your name.

Most people cannot handle using it responsibly, best not to risk it. I mean you just want to try it, your only motivation is desire... if you aren't strong enough to not try meth now, who is to say you'll be strong enough to avoid it after you've had your taste??

I dont recommend that a person tries meth just for the sake of trying it, it truly is one of those things where you should never try it, "not even once". That is one thing they got right.

 

[blight12]

i tried it one time.
that one time turned into a million times.
i was binging hard for the past 6 months,
the only break i took was when my ass went to detox 4 times and rehab once
i was hospitalized from dehydration cuz i thought all liquids were contaminated
then i walked out of the hospital the next day, straight to my dealers to get more
that shit has a hold on me, it fucks with your brain hard

Lol yeah, i often think that the near insanity and fucked up thoughts and creativity is the best part.
My issue with dehydration and health though is always forgetting my drinks or food which sit next to me for hours or days before finished. I cant help getting distracted by something and always forgetting liquids, food and vitamins and thus becoming a wreck by day 3 without fail.

 

[blight12]

Don't do it. You will never forget the feeling.

Most people cannot handle it.

For me that magical unforgettable feeling that i never want to stop was mdma which I abused and messed up my brain and i cant do anymore. But i can see that one special thing being meth for most people, it certainly is second only to mdma in my experience far above any of the many other (but not opiates) things i have tried even making decent coke look like caffeine in comparison.

 

[Lady Codone]

Best advice: DON'T DO IT. Meth is highly addictive and will not improve your life. I've seen people lose their minds (and teeth), their families and everything they love. One of my classmates is doing 30+ years for stealing anhydrous and shooting at a cop under the influence of meth...he was always calm and laid-back before. It really fucks with your mind. The relapse rate for meth addicts is higher than any other drug--around 92% if I remember correctly.

Next best advice: If you do it, take it orally and in low doses. Don't give yourself steady access to a supply or all bets are off. Don't smoke or IV under any circumstances. Sleep, eat and drink plenty of fluids so you don't end up looking like this guy:

 

[OEandricearoni]

I see no reason why you should try it man. If you're somebody who really enjoys uppers definitely don't try it because after you do it once you WILL want to do it again, and it's easy to get addicted to.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

I would like someone to give me a balanced view on the realities of Meth. I also use other substances infrequently (MDMA, Psychedelics) and frequently but irregularly (Alcohol, Cannabis, Adderal) so I am able to balance real life and partying to a point that makes me comfortable.

I agree with everything that others above me have said.

But for the "balanced view" I would rather take meth instead of any of the substances you mention above.
I know the sentence above is a classic case of a meth addict, but I haven't used in 3½ years, and don't have heavy cravings for it anymore, (I think about it, but the actual "getting" any is less than 1% ).

I wasn't going to post in this thread for the fear of others thinking that what I am saying isn't Harm Reduction, but decided to go for it after reading the very last sentence you wrote.

Or is it similar to Cocaine where the addiction potential is there, but often IMO overstated.

If this is the case (which it is, cause you wrote it) then I see a far better risk/reward by taking a "pinch" of meth orally, than any other stimulant.

So the balanced answer is, if you stick to ONLY the oral ROA, that it won't cause addiction any stronger than the other stimulants. But if you fuck up and start trying different ROA's, even just to try it once, you are fucked.

Oh and "Drugs are bad.....mmmKay"

 

[Morphling]

Well.

You are not likely to get addicted to meth from a use..or two. Do it and get it out of your system.

Speaking as a child of a crack addict mom and a meth dad, I said I'd never do em....

Course I rolled my car at 19 drunk, fucked up my back, they gave me tons of oxy and now I'm a junkie. I smoke crack and shoot meth now and then and am not addicted Lol..... meth ain't shit compared to heroin..

Meth isn't that bad, right? Till you can't stop.

 

[kingtweaker92]

Meth is the most psychological addicting drug i've ever come across. I "tried it" 4 months back or so, now everyday user. all friends I grew up with are non existant, family gone, and no job, I had a great one got my age I was almost making my age (19)in hourly wage..

all my bridges are burnt, and neither I nor the people who knew and loved me most recognize me anymore..

DON'T DO IT!!

I was gona try it orally, the same weekend became a fucking pro at self administering IV to myself.
it sounds outrageous, but if only you could jump in my had for a minute, you would understand the psychological grasp it has. please don't try it. PLEASE!

i'm only 19 IV'img crazy amounts of Meth and have all the health issues that conf with using Meth. I Knorr it's killing me from the inside out, and continue to use the Meth.if that cant give you a Grasp on the evil lurking behind all the fun, idk what can.

NOT WORTH A GOOD TIME. IT'S THE DEVILS DOPE YOU HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE & A GOOD TIME IS NOT WORTH THE RISK.
HOUR YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE..

-KING

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

Stay away from methamphetamine at all costs>

 

[Tryptamino]

with meth, it really is"not even once". its immediately addictive, in ways you cant even conceive unless you have tried it. just leave it alone.

 

[laCster]

If u think heroin addiction is bad, u kno nothing about meth. Most people describe meth as being more euphoric because it makes u feel invincible and the coolest person in the world, your self esteem and cofidence goes through the roof, .. u see m outgoing and people want to around because of all the good qualities meth brings out of you. I wish I never tried heroin for the first time because that feeling is always in the back of my mind. It gets easier but it never completely leaves you, your brain and body are scarred for life. Drugs are such a waste of fucking time, I could have slept with so many more women, get better grades, the list goes on and on.

Try some pharm amphetamines before u try meth atleast, meth is like 20x more euphoric than any pharm amp.

 

[tricomb]

If u think heroin addiction is bad, u kno nothing about meth. Most people describe meth as being more euphoric because it makes u feel invincible and the coolest person in the roof, your self esteem and cofidence goes through the world , .. u see m outgoing and people want to around because of all the good qualities meth brings out of you. I wish I never tried heroin for the first time because that feeling is always in the back of my mind. It gets easier but it never completely leaves you, your brain and body are scarred for life. Drugs are such a waste of fucking time, I could have slept with so many more women, get better grades, the list goes on and on.

Try some pharm amphetamines before u try meth atleast, meth is like 20x more euphoric than any pharm amp.

This.

Everyone I just wanted to stop for a second and say that overall with a few exceptions, I'm extremely proud of the responses given to the OP. OP, if you know what's good for ya, you'll listen to the advice given by these fine people who are looking out for your best interests.

Please learn from our mistakes, don't make them yourself. Methamphetamine should never be tried, not even once. I'm not saying that you'll be hooked ever since that first hit, but your life will change forever.