Deoxypipradol - Inexprienced - A Cure for Sleep?

[The Is]

Stimulant History: I generally can not handle stimulants, they make me feel a nauseating anxiety and overall malaise and discomfort.
From half a redbull (40mg caffeine) to any amount of Adderall or Ritalin, or more than a tiny bump of coke (5-10mg), I always find myself waiting for it to end thinking "why did I do this" 50mg of modafinil is all right, but 100 is too much.
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Tuesday
1800 I took 4mg of deoxypipradol.

I had in my possession about 10mg total, and I wanted to see if I could spend the whole night coding productively, so I said 'what the hell' and took my dose.

When it kicked in, I felt a slight strangeness in my head, like the very first hints of a hallucinogen onset (very faint and it went away) and I could feel my heart beating slightly harder than usual.

Alone, workin with aptana doing some client side js, there was no mood enhancement or increased productivity. I could barely tell I took any drug at all, and I am sensitive to changes in my moods and behavior.

I was able to work all night at my usual pace, the only difference was I did not experience my usual 0200 sleepiness. At this time I meditated some, and didn't notice any difference in my mental, except that the feeling of 'strangeness' I mentioned earlier was present if I looked for it. Now I would describe it as similar to how I feel when I first notice I'm getting horny- suddenly my priorities, the aim of my 'rational thoughts' change somehow, in a very organic, very subtle way. This was the same feeling, only it wasn't directing me towards any sexual activity, or anything I could tell.


Wednesday
I laid in bed at 0600 and was able to drift into a very pleasurable napping state for half an hour, after which I woke up feeling the same- about as good as I feel at noon on any other day.

I expected to start feeling shitty and sleepy sometime this afternoon, but I didn't. Instead I noticed I was more relaxed and perceptive than usual, but just barely. I just felt good, not great, but good like after a good walk maybe.

20:00 I started noticing the first 'drug' effects. I was no longer trying to exercise disciple and accomplish tasks, and my leg started bouncing as I posted here on bluelight compulsively for like 4 hours. I never bounce my legs, however I am usually a compulsive internet abuser.

24:00 Drove from the university to my parents house. Thought I felt sleepy for a sec but it passed. Still don't feel any sort of crash.


Thursday
0600-0800 Terrific-feeling sleep starting at 6am, with dreams. Waking at 8 feeling fine. Spend the day relaxing around the house, don't feel anything different than my usual daily awake state.

Now it's 1700 Thursday and I'm gonna drive back to school for class. I've been focusing, checking myself for signs of mania or the giddy-overcompensating-alertness I get during the day after staying up all night naturally. I can't sense anything at all. I am usually able to tell when I'm in a state of excitement by the way my eyes focus on fine details, and that isn't happening. Also, with sleep deprivation even when aided by a chemical as good as modafinil, my coding gets buggy as hell when I forget a bunch of 'little details' and need to triple check everything. That isn't happening now, I'm doing just as well as I ever do.

I just feel fine, but lost. Not dealing with downtime during the night is like removing the landmarks from my life or something. It feels like I've tasted a dust that cures my need for sleep.

Thinking about it logically, I doubt there is any way I'm really in as good of condition as I feel. The body needs sleep, right? But I can't tell that right now.
Then again, I am by myself and I haven't worked out lately.


Epilogue
I went to sleep at 23:00 Thursday night. If you ignore the naps, this lasted about 54 hours- I can't say exactly when it wore off. Rolling out of bed at 5:15 this morning felt great. My body feels natural, I've got no unusual mental static, I feel motivated. Overall an A+ experience, though I have no idea if I'll be able to repeat it.


Musings
Whoever chose to introduce this to the general public must be some sort of mental contortionist. This will cause trouble in people's lives. I think if I had come across this five or six years ago I would have made some bad decisions. And still! I can't imagine I'll be able to take this many times without consequences.

 

[Ximot]

The body needs sleep, right?

Absolutely.

And way more than you are allowing yourself.

I also find this substance quite nice in lowish anmounts, quite stress-free really. I once took a low dose and went to work... and the caretaker commented on my vbes... she said "You look great today!" ... well, 2-3 days later I found that I had lost a bit of energy, and I generally felt kind of yucky... I feel that it is not easy for my body to metabolise this substance... elimination organs have to work quite hard. Sweat gets quite smelly (I think others can confirm this( and I just feel ... unclean... main reason why i hardly ever use it. Apart from the somehow low energy levels I have for days after use. Not totalyl washed out like after amphetamines, but definitely not fit as a fiddle.

 

[Xorkoth]

Hey, thanks for the report. desoxypipradrol is definitely a smooth, (extremely) long-lasting stimulant. I used it for basically 2 weeks in a row when I had a supply. At first I didn't quite "get it"... I felt shaky and sweaty most of the time. But there was always a certain period of strong euphoria that kept me coming back. Eventually I was taking 10-15mg doses because of tolerance. I was sleeping a few hours a night because clearly my body started needing it. I was taking these doses and going to work, and actually being pretty productive. For the first 8 hours after dosing I would feel kind of sweaty and strange, but then I would emerge into a highly manic and excited state where I kept talking and talking and talking. It reminded me of DOC in that way except DOC's later stage is much less tweaker-esque.

Anyway, at the end of that 2 week run, I was absolutely floored with fatigue. Funny how I didn't notice at the time. But looking back, by the end I was showing signs of sleep deprivation, mostly hearing things but also the beginnings of visual hallucinations. I took a while to get back to normal after that.

Moral of the story? Be careful with long-acting stimulants. Although I think you already know that.

 

[lazydullard]

I have learned some hard lessons trying to "cure sleep." Don't let yourself trick yourself into 3-day or longer binges. You end up acting sketchy without even realizing it.

I haven't tried Deoxypipradol, but I think it sounds very enjoyable...

 

[The Is]

Taking deoxypipradol even once at a small dose counts as a binge. It took more out of me than I realized.

 

[Beenhead]

PLease name yer threads here according to the guidelines, for such a little known compound it is a good way for people to search

 

[Ximot]

It took more out of me than I realized.

aye... recuperation only starts days later . . . heavy heavy fuel

 

[The Is]

Ok this makes me look bad, but I lost 7lbs or 4% of my bodyweight on this little 'experiment'

only 4%? you think Thats not much at all.. I could do that 25 times before I disappeared entirely! hrmm..

I actually 'tried' to remember to eat the whole time, and didn't do anything physically strenuous. I think just being awake for 24 hours a day probably doubles your required calories.

I've gained 3lbs back since the report.