Deliriants?

[Jesusgreen]

nutmeg isn't really a deliriant, it isn't even a anticholinergic. nutmeg is more of an 'atypical' psychedelic.

Nutmeg is most definitely a deliriant. I have plenty of experience with deliriants, nutmeg included, there is nothing psychedelic or dissociative about it, it is purely a deliriant. It is possible that Elemi oil and Nutmeg oil where the ratios of active components are different would produce different effects - but it's uncertain.

As for it's usefulness as a deliriant (for people who find deliriants useful at all), the only use I can see for it is dream improvement, as nutmeg is longer lasting than many other deliriants. It lacks any of the (few) benefits that some deliriants have, and has many more side effects.

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myristicin

Myristicin and Elemicin are anticholinergics.

 

[StaySedated]

Nutmeg is most definitely a deliriant. I have plenty of experience with deliriants, nutmeg included, there is nothing psychedelic or dissociative about it, it is purely a deliriant. It is possible that Elemi oil and Nutmeg oil where the ratios of active components are different would produce different effects - but it's uncertain.

As for it's usefulness as a deliriant (for people who find deliriants useful at all), the only use I can see for it is dream improvement, as nutmeg is longer lasting than many other deliriants. It lacks any of the (few) benefits that some deliriants have, and has many more side effects.

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myristicin

Myristicin and Elemicin are anticholinergics.

wikipedia is not a reliable source. it has listed myristicn as a "psychedelic phenethylamine" in the past and changes the articles on nutmeg and it's compounds all the time. even though some may not like nutmeg, it's effects are not consistant with being an anticholinergic(seeing spiders, smoking imaginary cigarettes, seeing imaginary people).

http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/nutmeg_article1.shtml

^this article on erowid(a much more reliable source) says myristicin and elemicin is active at 5-HT receptors, and has much more reliable info.

 

[StaySedated]

Myristicin is active at the 5-HT receptors in the brain, and has been shown to have hypotensive, sedative, anti-depressant, anesthetic, hallucinogenic, and serotonergic properties (Sangalli & Chiang 2001). Large doses generally cause hyper-excitability, followed by CNS depression. Myristicin is fairly unique as a hallucinogen (if it may be classified as such), because it lacks a nitrogen atom. It is also rare for a compound lacking a nitrogen group to show activity at the brain's 5-HT receptors

Elemicin, one of the other suspected psychoactive components of nutmeg, is similar to myristicin in that it lacks a nitrogen group and is also active at the brain's 5-HT receptors

- erowid nutmeg vault

nutmeg is not an anticholinergic.

 

[DXMkid420]

I just sat on my balls

dood, i just dod the same thing. any pain in yor nuts hurts alot more when your high. this sucks

 

[raui]

I've always heard of the nutmeg high as being flu-like, which sounds like any other deliriant.
Never tried it but my gf did and she said she saw a bat speak to her on it.