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Opioids Defeating the new OC time release

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FormerPianoMan said:
....sounds extremely dangerous. I would recommend against that.

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it is dangerous yet done all the time to extract THC from plant matter to make hash. just keep away from high heat and/or open flame. worth a shot since these things are becoming seemingly impenetrable...
 
Well, it's been 8 days now since I filled my script of 90 20's, I was given 15 of the originals and the rest are the OP's. I haven't had much chance to experiment other than trying once using a hose clamp and it didn't do jack shit, I also bite them (pain in the ass) into as small of pieces as possible and then swallow.

What I am wondering is if anyone has been able to shave them down to the point where they are sniffable? If so, did they gel up in the nasal passage? What I am afraid of, is if I do manage to get them shaved down, will both my nasal passages be plugged w/ a glob of gel? That would suck if I could no longer breath through my nose lol, if that did happen, would it eventually dissolve or would I have to blast it w/ Afrin or something?

Thank god I also get 90 20mg Roxi's, I am having a tough time sticking to 3 a day now though because these OP's are just aweful. Hopefully my doc will just give me 180's roxi's next month and take away the OP's or maybe I can get them raised to 30's or 40's.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
^ I had those warnings on benzo scripts (quite funny to acutally see).
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Yeah I LOL when I first got my xanax.

mr.muncheez said:
OH I forgot to ask... what is SWIM? Sorry I am new here..not up on the lingo yet...
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SWIM is for people who think that using the word SWIM will some how make it harder for police or any other authority too arresot or prosocute them. It's ridiculous. I use too be a member of drugsforum.com. Now I wont say its a bad site, but they stopped the swim shit itd be 1000x better. I got banned after two days because I just kept saying "I" and "myself", lol.

So heres the theorys too solve the OC problem that are reasonable so far.

1) Crisping
2) Microwave
3) Finding out what that test solevent they used was.

Sunday Im getting a bunch of roxys. When I do, I'm gonna trade some too a friend and get a few new 80's. I'll be the ginnea pig and record my findings via hd camcorder on youtube.

Any other theorys should I test? Tell me so I dont have too make a part 2 (Altough Im getting the feeling I will have too)

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well like was said on another page, mimicking the the ph levels of a glass of "whatever" to the ph of stomich acids and letting them "digest" in the glass and then drink.. might not be the best tasting but it is the best option i have seen so far. cuz as far as it looks, there's no way to just crush/shave them and snort or shoot them, they win this time i think.

and i also think this thread will not leave the front page for quite some time..

EDIT: or you could just take a couple/few of them the way they were meant to be taken and maybe catch a buzz off of it building up in your system over the hours?
 
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^ the warning isn't on my k-pin bottle.. :X
that would have been great to find a way to catch a buzz off them instead of having to take 10-15mg :\

i know i've seen it on ativan bottles but don't remember if it was on my old valium bottles (i save bottles for some reason, but i can't look at them tho).. (police evidence.. long story..)

EDIT: i take that back i guess.. i checked the interactions checker on drugs.com and valium has an interaction but ativan doesn't, but i swore it did.. oh well. doesn't matter now anyways..

k back on topic..
 
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u cannot beat them , gotta take by mouth and do not chew it makes a jelly blob , the only way is to drink a couple beers , very dangerous but way safer then things other people are posting , just gotta take them the way they are , maybe someday someone will figure it out but its gonna be a while , unless a purdue insider lets the cat out of the bag , quit ruining them and take them orally to relieve your pain they do work , just need to let them build up in your system , if u cannot get a buzz on 4 percocets a hour released into your bloodstream u do need to look around for some help , sorry to say but i have taken 4 a long time , yes i have tolerence but have a little patience with them and forget about it , u will be happy , people who sell them are bummed no more 7,000 dollar scripts but cpp will be happy in the long run , no more worrying about being robbed or your house broken into , that is really nice , and with patience they work , if u are having a super bad day instead of chewing , drink a beer purdue is dead against it but it works u will forget about your pain and time will pass by , the days of a quick chew and bang are gone , guzzle a beer and be happy
 
^Going with that idea, I bet if you took like a shot glass and filled with water, and took a little of the powder and either mixed it up or just swallowed it with the shot glass of water, and did this several times so that each time, only a portion of the pill is going down with the water... it seems to me that this would prevent the dreaded "gel blob" from forming quite as effectively as if you just took the powder all at once, or mixed it all into one glass of water...
 
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TheLostBoys said:
Ho about using a pill crusher & dumping it in a glass of carbonated soda, let it sit for an hour & then drink it.
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Not a terrible theory but stil lnot helping those who wish too slam and snort them. I'm not going too lie to anyone. I'll do some of the tests I promised and a few other ones but I really doubt you'll be hearing 80mg doing 80mg's any more. Time too change my name too 30mg.
 
I can't wait to get my hands on these new OP's. Everyone thinks it's such an impossibility to do them like the old formula-and your right. It's never going to be that easy again. No more crush and snort, crush and shoot, crush and drink-and smoking them was always retarded.
Now what you'll have to do is extract the Oxycodone Hydrochloride from the pills, it's not a simple 1 or 2 step process, but by Purdue's own admission and their report submitted to the FDA, and my own chemical knowledge of how these polymers they've used work, 60-100% of Oxycodone can be extracted using various methods. What you'll have is a nice little white powder. Similar to removing the coating from an old pill and smashing it between two spoons. The difference is that the powder you'll have now is going to be much more potent. Why? Because by going through the process of extraction and then isolating Oxycodone you'll be removing all other or most of the other impurities; any talcs, buffers, polymers, binding agents, etc. So you'll have snortable, drinkable, shootable, smokeable(complete waste; even purdue's chemists state that vaporizing OC is retarded, poor bioavailability and poor release of the active ingrediant-Oxycodone.)
What I'd like to find is someone in my area that has some new formula pills, wants to meetup and do some extracting-For obvious reasons Purdue didn't mention the method/s they used to extract large amount of OC from their OP pills. So it'll take a bit of trial and error to figure out which solvents will yield the highest amount of Oxycodone HCL.
This is not a tamper proof pill, it's tamper resistant (Purdue made it a point to make that very point). 95% of Oxy users aren't going to go through the trouble of extracting the active ingredient from the pill. 1. It takes time, 2. It takes WORK. People want a quick high and don't want to do much work to get it. So by large this will stop a lot of people from abusing them. But by no means are the new formula OP's abuse proof.
So who's down?
 
I honestly think a butane extraction thru a metal fountain pin would work.

ur superfreezing the polymer right so it should break free.

once u let the butane evap u would be left with oxycodone and a broken polymer.
 
187coopa said:
I honestly think a butane extraction thru a metal fountain pin would work.

ur superfreezing the polymer right so it should break free.

once u let the butane evap u would be left with oxycodone and a broken polymer.
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IDK if I want too ingest butane. And I'm still not seeing how this will work.
 
Butane Extraction

I would not use butane as a solvent, for several reasons; primarily there are much better choices. Also extraction of 100% was obtained at room temperature in Purdues in vitro tests. So while temperature is often a factor in many extractions and may have beneficiary effects when applied to the new formula, it's not necessary. This is already a big enough pain in the ass, why add any unessential steps to the extraction? I'm assuming you were talking about using the n-butane isomer rather than methylpropane? Either way there is a better solution.
 
grafitti said:
u cannot beat them , gotta take by mouth and do not chew it makes a jelly blob , the only way is to drink a couple beers , very dangerous but way safer then things other people are posting
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Rather than breaking down the matrix, I suspect you are dealing with cross-potentiation between the alcohol and oxycodone.

I agree with you that this method is dangerous. Many "heroin overdoses" are actually polydrug overdoses involving alcohol. The other methods people are mentioning will just waste a pill: washing down a couple of new Oxys with some booze may waste a whole lot more.
 
I dont know if its true but heating it can kind of fuck up the chemical probably make it it less efficient.. I mean, I chased the dragon a few times on the old form oxycontin on foil, it has a nice rush but fades pretty fast, also I tried to vape it in a glass bowl but it didnt really work and it tasted very bad... I dont think you can really smoke the new OP ones it just wont work, I actually tried to chase the dragon and it doesnt really burn well, and it bubbles brown its just hard to vape right.

methods if tried that DONT work:
crushing
snorting
smoking/vaping
chasing
microwaving (which is a pretty fucking stupid idea whoever put that up here, I dont care if you read it on a forum, its still pretty fucking stupid, as desperate as I was to try it I wanted to beat myself up for how stupid that is, im not calling you out, just whoever made the original post)

these do not work..what KIND of works are:
crushing it as best as you can (even if it just molds into another form) put it in coke and let it sit there over night, then you will have a semen looking substance, just drink it. It kicks in a little faster I guess than taking the pill alone which takes 2 hours (For real) to kick in compared to the old OC which, even if uncrushed, kicks in, in like less than an hour.

its pretty stupid they did this, I mean its OUR business if we want to abuse drugs, the government doesnt even care about us its bullshit, they tax off cigarettes which everyone knows that it kills, but then they act like they care about what us citizens do with our lives by making pills tamper proof.. I even read that the "LEGIT" patients complain about the OP on it being less effective and taking a long ass time to kick in. bravo
 
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