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Decided to get clean and did it. EASILY. 15 Year Addiction.

dopemaster said:
Im actually doing ok. I just kinda fill the void with new relationships and I mean Im using alot, so Im feeling just fine at the moment. I just find if I do get clean I have no reason at all to stay clean.
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Dude, Get yourself a $800 ticket and come to australia. Oh so many reasons to stay clean.
I was on Ice for a good while and then learned to skydive and gave all drugs up for years. Go and do your AFF Level 1. It's $200 in USA and you do a six hour course and then you jump on your own parachute with two instructors holding your arms to keep you stable and learn to fly.
After nine levels you jump all on your own and then after 20 jumps or so you get a license so you can jump for $18-$25 per jump at most places in the states. Once you have your license, you 'cutaway' from life and live in trailors on dropzones with other people. Loads of good nights. Always a good night. And I mean good. At the same time you also have something to do thats better than just being addicted to too many drugs.
Dropzone life is awesome. Google AFF Level 1 youtube and watch it. Dont watch the stupid gone wrong ones though lol.

I swear to you, there is not better feeling than jumping, no better relaxing feeling, no age limit and no bigger family than being a skydiver. You have 200,000 people around the world who will always give a stranger jumper a couch and a ride from the airport, or a van to stay in.
We use to have 5000-8000 skydivers gather in USA for 'Boogies', where we jumped from blimps, helicopters, balloons, and tons of other planes. Sponsored by Beer companies with unlimited free beer. Check this out for example.....
this is a very old one, but its a compilation for you to see the family and mates you make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQm7N0fUl8
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmBOePzPaAg packed of old skool skydivers. Only skydivers at this party. This is a party video. Not so hardcore, but check out the amount of people in the parties. These are boogies held all over the USA all year long.
This stuff can clean anyone up and give them something to love and live for.

P.s. sorry for the other video, kinda suckjed.
 
Hi there. I am new to this site so I cant post a new thread. I have been weaning off opiates for 2 weeks. I got myself down to a very low dose. 4 percocet per day from heroine. I got to the run out day of percocet and jumped off the edge to using nothing. I went one day, waited until I was in withdrawal which was slight because of successfully weaning down so much. I had one 8 mg suboxone that a friend gave me. I took 2 mg yesterday at about 6pm. After reading some posts on here I am scared I've driven my tolerance up again. It worked great. Restless legs gone. I feel normal. No cravings. I'm just wondering if I can now use the remaining suboxone I have to slowly wean over the next few days? How strong is suboxone? Can I wean down now in very slow increments so I have no opiates left in my system and avoid the dreaded depression and lingering wd's that last days?
 
You only took a quarter of a strip. I wouldnt worry. I know people who go to clinics and end up on 3 strips a day. Ive always just taken a razor to strips and taken smaller and smaller pieces each day. Suboxone isnt an opiate its an opiate-antagonist. Anyways I usually use only one strip for a jump off, maybe 2-3. Just keep cutting em into smaller doses. It does prolong the misery to some degree, so I try to keep it short as possible.

To the OP I think you are experiencing acute PAWDS. Ive had it before with booze. Thanks for the offer and everything but Ive got my own plans. Ive actually been tapering down quite a bit, not really by choice but all the same Im definetly getting healthier. Im planning on having a talk with my pain doctor about switching to more ER medication, maybe a patch or something. What I was trying to say earlier is Im fine with where Im at as I do have plans to better myself.

You dont owe anything to anyone in terms of posting. Hell IMO I would distance myself from drug users. Some people do the opposite and work at rehab facilities. I had a drug counselor I used to get stuff for...
 
dopemaster said:
Suboxone isnt an opiate its an opiate-antagonist.
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Not correct. An opiate antagonist is something that blocks the opioid receptors. Buprenorphine (active ingredient in Suboxone) is a partial agonist/antagonist, meaning that it partly blocks receptors (especially in higher doses) while at the same time stimulating them like a regular opiate/opioid (which is called a full agonist). It's still an opioid and still cause physical dependence and withdrawal.
 
Antagonists have the same effects as opiates. It bonds to the opiate receptors as well. Subs are nasty as the bupe aggresivley rips the opiods out of receptors and throws you into wds if not taken while in full blown wds. I completely agree its habit forming and honestly I know people that got one subs and it made their habit worse. Subs block dope like a mofo IME. To overide it I have to do one hell of a shot. I should mention thats highly irresponsible. The worse day of my life was when I had precipitated wds from subs and proceeded to inject methadone which didnt seem to help. 8 hours later and ten lbs lighter I ended up slamming 200 mgs of oxy. Im kinda surprised I survived that shit. I figured subs and done where one in the same and since I was already in precipitated wds... I dont think the done did much either ways. Maybe felt a bit better. I probly shoulda rode it out as I jumped on subs a couple days again later after learning more about them. I should add it was very dangerous to inject oxy while on suboxone especially in the state I was in, but it stopped the pwds. I felt like a tube of toothpaste that got squeezed hard that day.

I should also mention I took a whole strip and I thought I was sick. I was waking up sick at that time so I figured that I was sick enough. You should wait till you nose is running. At least that has been my experience with subs. I really despise subs and I keep some in my bug out bag for the zombie apocalypse in case I can no longer get drugs and have to detox while shooting zombies and whatnot.
 
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dopemaster said:
Antagonists have the same effects as opiates.
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No they don't, an antagonist will simply block the receptors without activating them. A "partial agonist/antagonist" like buprenorphine blocks them but also activates them. It's complicated, but it's not correct to say buprenorphine is "an opiate antagonist". Drugs like naloxone (used to reverse overdoses) and naltrexone (used to block opiates) are antagonists, they simply bind to receptors without activating them, which means you get no opioid effects, they will not relieve withdrawal at all or provide pain-killing effects, etc.
 
Hey 15yr.. how are you doing bro? I hope your are doing really good and don't forget what an accomplishment you have done.. don't trust your emotions for awhile.. there going to try and play you.. If your like me and we at least have a few things in common. pushing the envelope at a few dangerous sports is one, though i have only dreamed about the wing suite or base jumping, but I free ski and have taken sixty five feet on skis, kayaked lots of 4+ and even a bit of -5, cave dive, sky dived but only tandem, hardcore mountain snowmobiling, any way you get the picture.. you sound amazing, remember that when the addiction tries to tell you different. Get as much support ass you can from others like us who will know where you are coming from.. but yeah if your like me and dont like getting played.. re examine anything that is pushing you to use, write it down and read it again.. chances are you will be thinking nuts.. wow i'm talking to a guy that flies=D
 
Guess as a freeskiier you would of heard of Shane McConkey, who was a free skier and ended up putting a Base rig on to free skii off the side of the mountains. Damn he was a legend. I guess now he is a real legend though to many after we lost him. Couldnt get his ski off in time and fseemed he focused on this and didnt pull his chute out.

As for myself, I'm better than ever. Got some glasses which suck as they always seem to be dirty and cant get that one spot off the lens which is driving me nuts, but apart from that it took a couple of days and a coule of beer drinking sessions over the weekend but im through it all now i believe.
Emotions are gone, headaches gone thanks to glasses, and the restless legs would be there but they are gone thanks to a drug called Sifrol. This stuff takes a couple of days to work and i played around with the dose but figured out if you have the .375mg ER dose and you stick to that then they work, if you double the dose they dont work. I had it before bed each night and have been without restless legs since.
I defo went through PAWS, and who know, i still might again as I had a bad bad bad day last week, but the past 4 days have been nothing but easy.
I just got to get off this damn Endep 25mg as it gives you the worst head feeling when you miss a dose and seeing its just such a irrelevant medication i find myself wondering what i need to take to get rid fo the head feeling, and then after a few hors i realise its that stupid Endep fuking with me. Take it and all is fine again.
Can go to sleep and sleep through the night without waking to have a smoke which is great.
I am hoping that in a day or two more i will be able to start lifting some weights or at least lifting my body weight, so that I can get those muscles in my back working again. Need to rebuild my body so that it can perform even basic things like mowing the lawns without experiencing pain.

I still reackon there is a couple of months, or at least one month to go where I will feel better than I do now, even though i feel great at the moment. The level im on right now is the level i was on when i had pain killers in my system and took away the pain. I feel like that, sluggish but good. Hopefully in a month I feel like something that i have not felt like in 15 years, and i have no idea what that feeling is because i dont remember what it was like to feel normal. Fingers crossed normal means something like being able to run or want to go for a walk.
House gets cleaned, dogs get walked and cleaned up after, sleep is normal hours, I only drink water , only take Sifrol and endep. Got bottles of temazepam and packet loads of Diazepam but havent found the desire or the urge to bother with them. Mainly because valium never did anything for me, and temazepam forces death dreams on me and then wakes me an hour later making me feel like i have been ina real life death defying moment for the past eight hours.

Anyway, thanks for asking and hopefully all you guys are going to have a good week. Weather that be a week you get your gear without hassle or a week where you get through pain and withdrawls without hassle.

Looking back on everything though, Clonodine is a god send. Dont care what anyone says about the stuff, it took away ALL withdrawl symptons during Detox. All of them. It is however useless now I am past that and it did not help at all with PAWS, only made things more intense if anything. I firmly believe it can have a complete opposite or rebound effect if you use it once detoxed.
 
yeah shane was one of the guys I really liked watching:(.. clonidine was a god send for me to.. really it made all the difference.. I came of a huge dose of methadone as was in acute withdrawal for weeks and weeks.. clonidine, and a couple other things like you, wish i would have taken the RLS drug.. just said the hell with it i'm not going to sit around.. went to a huge water park, yeah that was interesting with the internal temp going from frozen to hot to frozen, went to a couple pro baseball games, a pro american football game, fishing, movies etc etc.. just did something all the time wasn't about to sit around and feel that bad.. got pissed at it you know.. anyway chronic opiate use really frequently causes low testosterone.. get that checked and then way the benefits and downfalls of HRT.. but if your hanging allot with a lady/s then you will need to do the IM as the gel doesn't work nearly as well and can be REALLY bad for the females.. especially if you are around kids at all.. something to check with your doctor about.. so glad the paws where short for you.. thats great.. most people in addiction cycle through a standard pattern so be aware of that.. always wanted to try the squirrel suiting, still think I might.. may start getting some jumps in and getting some skills in that area.. loved the jump i did.. was down in Playa del Carmen mexico and no instruction at all tandem.. no seatbelts/doors in the cessna.. pilot was out of his mind on the coke.. he was even wearing a shute, was so old it might have been from ww1.. so during the climb I was the only one in this smoking deathtrap without a chute.. that was the morning and then the afternoon was spent cave diving that huge cave they have there... exercise is key to happiness.. check the test.. Nice work.. here is a pick of what the cave diving is like.. yeah that was a good trip. glad to rid of that ball and chain=D

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Congrats on getting clean.

Just to check I got this right, you got put on 80mg OC twice a day for 300mg codeine? That is fucking insane and incredibly irresponsible of the doc if so. It's ridiculous how uninformed many health professionals are about opiods here in Aus (and probably in other places, too).
 
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