December 2012

[yougene]

Essentially it all comes down to, I believe in synchronocity and you don't.

 

[PGTips]

But you see synchronicity now in events which are only synchronus in that they happen in the same 2 decades as one another (if they happen at all), and also you ignore that events of similar (if not better) coherence have been predicted to culminate into a grand event before (like my 70s example) and yet never came to pass. At least during the Cold War we got the Cuban Missile Crisis, so that "We're going to get nuked to death" prediction almost came true. The fact the solar plane and the galactic plane will be aligned in late 2012 isn't really close to that is it?

I'm sure I could come up with similar examples forthe 1880s predicting doom for all in the 20s or 30s, and pretty much any other decade predicting only a few years were left.

Given the vast numbers of human beliefs and ideas, pretty much at any time in history, you can inevitably find half a dozen or so theories which point to death and destruction during a wide time frame like 20~40 years. Just look how many times Nostrodamus has been used to say "OMG, we're all going to die" only for nothing to come true.

 

[yougene]

But you see synchronicity now in events which are only synchronus in that they happen in the same 2 decades as one another (if they happen at all), and also you ignore that events of similar (if not better) coherence have been predicted to culminate into a grand event before (like my 70s example) and yet never came to pass.

1. When I do experience synchronocity it doesn't neccasarily correlate with just 2 events, it's often much more.

2. I do look at the grander scheme, i'm very aware of the events that went on around the 50's and their significance.

I'm sure I could come up with similar examples forthe 1880s predicting doom for all in the 20s or 30s, and pretty much any other decade predicting only a few years were left.

I see your point. I'm not expecting anyone to believe me just because i said so though.

 

[areflectionofnothing]

everything is synchronized, it's just a matter if we see it that way or not.

 

[PGTips]

everything is synchronized, it's just a matter if we see it that way or not.

Similarly, I could say nothing is synchronised, its just a matter of if we see it that way or not.

 

[areflectionofnothing]

yes.

but if you could see the universe from outside the universe, or multiverse- or what-have-you, then you might see a singularity.

but then, how can something exist outside of a singularity?

so maybe you are right.

 

[PGTips]

A black hole is a singularity in space-time, and you and I exist currently outside the black hole we know exists at Cygnus X-1 (about 300 light years from us if I remember correctly).

Besides, what have singularities got to do with being sychronised? What is your definition of "synchronised". I can sychronise my watch with my computer clock. Obviously that has little to do with singularities or the universe at large.

 

[areflectionofnothing]

singularity of the universe/multiverse as one process indefinately.

i didn't really mean singularity as in a black hole.. i guess i tried to use it as a metaphore.

 

[elemenohpee]

wow man, thats deep

 

[mr_p]

whatever will be will

but the key ... the key

you see ...you see

is that wee ... yes, we

have a conciouness with infinite possibilites !

INFINITE

POSSIBILITIES

(and i have found the best way to understand the INFINITE is to LET GO of the FINITE

either way ... 2012 is 7 years away .... explore and be conciously aware while u do it ... enjoy your prana, chi, air, life force ...

BEAM forfth

and SMILE muchly

 

[Morrison's Lament]

Oh, no! Hippies!!

--- G.

 

[elemenohpee]

hahahahaha great episode

 

[PGTips]

(and i have found the best way to understand the INFINITE is to LET GO of the FINITE

I see. Just like the best way of being up is not being down...

That doesn't really say how to understand infinity or things of infinite nature. If anything, from what I've seen of people posting on here, few understand some of the properties of what it is for something to be infinite. For instance, in another thread someone made the (incorrect) statement that if you lived for an infinite amount of time and had an infinite number of things to do you'd never get bored. Incorrect, you can have an infinite amount of things to do, but have nothing to do for arbitrarily long periods of time. You can become insanely bored.

Having " a conciouness with infinite possibilites" doesn't imply "whatever will be will".

But then you and I have been down this road before in the last 2012 thread haven't we mr_p? I don't hold just saying profound sounding statements which are devoid of any actual meaning in much regard.

 

[Citaucix]

I just think twelve twelve twenty rolls off the tongue nicely.





Also I think aliewds will come and take us al n2 space eand enlighten us with magic and wnoders beoynd imagenashun!

There's no need to argue about the future, unless it's about policy or action of some sort, especially more than two years.

Also, coincidences only really have some significance if we think they're unique. If you think about it, we know and encounter thousands of things everyday. It would be rather farfetched if there weren't any coincidences, given the things we know.

 

[qwe]

whatever will be will

but the key ... the key

you see ...you see

is that wee ... yes, we

have a conciouness with infinite possibilites !

INFINITE

POSSIBILITIES

(and i have found the best way to understand the INFINITE is to LET GO of the FINITE

either way ... 2012 is 7 years away .... explore and be conciously aware while u do it ... enjoy your prana, chi, air, life force ...

BEAM forfth

and SMILE muchly

i.... agree with this guy. he seems in touch with things...

 

[-|Twiztd|-]

I seriously think the idea of setting a designated time for all these catastrophic things to happen is quite weathered:

 

[PGTips]

I seriously think the idea of setting a designated time for all these catastrophic things to happen is quite weathered:

By at least a couple of centuries. There was someone in the 1700s or 1800s in Europe who predicted that soon the local area would be hammered by terrible storms so bad the entire region would be laid to waste. Such an excellent job of convining many of the people was done that they dug houses into the nearby hills so as the weather the storm, and "battened down the hatches".

Rather unsurprisingly, nothing happened. Clearly weather forecasting was still in its infancy back then

 

[Morrison's Lament]

Let´s not forget the year 1000 panic that swept Europe, and the later y2k panic.

--- G.

 

[mr_p]

I see. Just like the best way of being up is not being down...

That doesn't really say how to understand infinity or things of infinite nature. If anything, from what I've seen of people posting on here, few understand some of the properties of what it is for something to be infinite. For instance, in another thread someone made the (incorrect) statement that if you lived for an infinite amount of time and had an infinite number of things to do you'd never get bored. Incorrect, you can have an infinite amount of things to do, but have nothing to do for arbitrarily long periods of time. You can become insanely bored.

Having " a conciouness with infinite possibilites" doesn't imply "whatever will be will".

But then you and I have been down this road before in the last 2012 thread haven't we mr_p? I don't hold just saying profound sounding statements which are devoid of any actual meaning in much regard.

you've completely misunderstood me

i think we ALL need to understand that words are so very limiting (pixels of the finite world)

and that we may get caught up in words, and numbers ...

(hypocritically i'm about to spit a whole lot of wordage!~)


about 2012 ... ... i've met some amazingly "onto it" "clued on" people ... one of them on the side of the road who left me with a competely different outlook on life ... every breath after meeting kenny was so utterly appreciated and beautiful

i've since met many other random people (synchronicity?? other spaced out beings ?? i've questioned and considered all sides of all of my coins!)
who have such a deep and profound knowledge on ENERGY and the SPHERICAL NATURE of the universe and 2012 and so much "new agey stuff"
why have i met these random people .. ?

i was first approached randomly by an older guy at byron bay at the start of this year ... he said i was subconciiousl8y attuned to the sperical nature of the universe (most trippers are) .... he then began talking about beings from other dimensions who are here to assist us in the becoming evolutionary jump, and that northern nsw australia is an energy grid of some kind, to do with the caldera and .... i'd never seen eyes like this mans before, i can't explain it with words.... INTENSELY CENTRED is the best way to put it,

anyway i didn't know what to think, i'm not the kind of person who is just going to go ..wow that sounds cool, where do i get my cape from ??? it seemed so far out ... all to do with bringing earth back into allignment again .... and galactic equators. ... way to far out for me even after the most amazing mushroom summer of my life ...

the most ineresting thing i've been told on the subject is that on 21st december 2012 .. well, picture a line going up ... and when it hits this date.... it splits. .. one keep ascending up ... and the other goes back down ... its kind of like .. .the choice is yours

i don't hold on to ANYTHING i am told .. i just take it in ...i'm not hear to preach it just to pass it on ... take it how you will obviously ...

i still dont have a belief on the 2012 subject i neither BELIVE nor DISbELIEVE ... i DO have conflicting reactions to it but over all i feel change is ahead, whether brougth on by space aliens with crystals danling from their foreheads or by US, the beings of this planet ..EARHTLINGS ...

... this life is a precious gift from divinity, make the most of every moment by atleast experiencing it

i come from a christian family ..i should be trying to get a good job and a wife and acquire lots of physical STUFF so i can prove my societal worth and develop an EGO ...and yet i've seen thru it all at such a young age ..>?why ?? .. why am i here ?? to assist in the wake up call ?? i'm still searching... i'm still integrating ... i'm still loving ..i'm sitll fearing ... i'm always evolving ... every focused breath is pure naked existence

maybe i'm just here, now ...thats it .... SPECIAL ! ..(quite special indeed said the rock to the tree)

i can't help but feel deep within me ...underneath all these layers ... that we are undergoing a shift in conciousness ... that we are just beginning to wake up to a new reality ... a new way of being (more love less fear, ohh fuck its yummm..so yum)

one way or another, human beings are asleep

i have and still do question whats real ?? who's dilluded and who's onto it.... i've come to my own conlusion that's its so fucking irrelevent

i couldn't give a shit about 2012 really .... my love is for the moment ... and for awakening conciousness (which doesn't involved magical star dusts) its involves letting go of false barriers within your mind that limit your INFINITE potential

and alphernumic ... ??? who said i was trying to understand inifinity /?? its UN-understandable ... our brains can't comprehend it ... we may experience it .. or feel it .... but understand it ??? (to stand under it ?
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PARA-DOX

all i really want deap down is for every single one of us to be happy, at peace and in love with love

not only to see the light. .. but to BE the light !

wordsmorewords...just words....

THINGS 2 do TODAY in preperatino for 2012 (hehehe) ....

INHALE, EXHALE ... repeat .... AHHHHHHhHhHhhh yum

 

[PGTips]

I just looked at the Wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar for this stuff, and its interesting to note the entry at the end about "End of the world?". The X.X.X.X.X method of dates is infact an abbreviation, and when you get to 0.0.0.0.0 you simply invoke a 6th term. X.X.X.X.X is just short hand for 13.X.X.X.X.X. Hence the dates go 13.0.0.0.0.1, 13.0.0.0.0.0, 12.X.X.X.X.X. Not cyclic in the grand scheme of stuff.

Add in the bit about how the fact that only from Earth is there any kind of alignment with the galactic plane, anywhere else its not an event. Given the quite clear non-geocentric view of the universe we have, there's absolutely no reason to consider just because Earth's movement lines up with the galactic plane that anything grand or amazing is going to happen, such as the bullshit like "A cosmic gate to higher dimensions is going to open". Yeah, right after the second coming of Mickey Mouse 8)

and alphernumic ... ??? who said i was trying to understand inifinity /?? its UN-understandable ... our brains can't comprehend it ... we may experience it .. or feel it .... but understand it ??? (to stand under it ?

Of course I'm coming from a somewhat mathematical point of view, but even in things of infinite number some properties or notions can be understood or comprehended. The existance of distinctly different types of infinity for instance. Can two infinities be fundamentally different? If you give certain definitions, then yes they can.

Of course if you just give crappy etherial definitions to infinity like "Its huge", "Its un-understandable", "It is existance" then you don't even attempt to think about it, much like some Christians' answer "God did it" to anything of scientific complexity not covered in the Bible. Personally I think thats a bit of a cop out.