Deca cycle products

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MGHero

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Im starting a deca cycle in a few weeks and was hoping to get some insite on what products i should use durring and after to mitigate the sides of the deca as well as improve natural test production at the end. Ill be on a 12 week deca test e cycle
 
Well you shouldn't really get many sides from deca if any at all in mine and most people's experiences, it can add a fair amount of bloat to certain people depending on bf%.
I would personally run your test lower than deca i find it is a smoother cycle.
Deca will shut you down hard, I personally run test at least 2-3 weeks after I finish my deca, to help it clear my system, it can linger and cause shutdown s lot longer than most aas. I wouldn't run anything during the cycle to keep test levels higher as with deca there isn't much you can do to stop total and complete shutdown.
If your planning on pct rather than taper as I said run the test aa few weeks longer than the deca and do a normal pct regime as if you were only on test.
Could you tell dosages so I have an understanding of what if any sides your going to experience?
 
Ill most likely be doing something like 300mg test e and 200mg deca (not positive as that was off the top of my head. I have doses somewhere but cant get to it right now). Any liver support or anything like that that u recommend durring the cycle?
 
Is this a First cycle? Don't take offence to this but you don't really seem to know what your doing? Injectable steroids barring stanzolol amongst a few others cause little to no damage whatsoever to the liver.
If this is a first cycle I'd reccomend leaving out the deca and maybe doing 500mg per week test only, but before doing that research as much as you can.
Find out with a SERM is, an Ai, PCT... Read the stickys before venturing further
 
Ive already done a test cycle. Like i said i dont remember what i had down for the amounts ill be doing.

Ive done 250mg of test a week for 8 weeks
 
As Nolys says, Deca isn't really a good choice. It's possibly the worst AAS to recover from.

Just do a slightly higher dose of Test than in your first cycle. 350mg-400mg would be more than enough for great 2nd cycle results.
 
I'd agree with CFC on this the reason I've reccomended 5 is because it's easier to dose 1ml x2 per week.
Can you post up some stats weight, height and bf? And your goal? Cut or bulk or strength?
 
If your a decent weight and height, and know what your doing I personally would just go with the 500mg, 350mg isn't really a lot more than natural production and your going to get shut down either way, and very few people get any side effects from 500mg test unless you have a higher body fat % it can lead to issues.
 
350mg would be roughly 240-250mg adjusted for bioavailability and ester weight. Natural production sits in a range (depending on lab and range used) that translates to roughly 15-49mg/wk. So 350mg is still a hefty multiple of what the body produces naturally.

Generally speaking I would say that if the gains aren't happening from a moderate dose, it's the diet (and sometimes training, sleep etc) that needs addressing first before adjusting AAS.

While I don't dispute that a person would gain more weight with more AAS, the quality of those gains, increased side-effects, worsened recovery, and diminishing returns means the sweet spot for maximum results vs minimum sides is lower than typically advised on many sites.
 
CFC said:
As Nolys says, Deca isn't really a good choice. It's possibly the worst AAS to recover from.

Just do a slightly higher dose of Test than in your first cycle. 350mg-400mg would be more than enough for great 2nd cycle results.
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Just to reiterate what CFC has stated above, nandrolone metabolites are still present months after cessation inhibiting recovery:

Recovery from a Deca cycle can take up to a year

For chemical athletes who have taken a cycle of nandrolone decanoate, re-establishing their hormonal balance can take longer than you'd expect.

All traces of nandrolone itself have disappeared out of the body 4-5 weeks after the last injection, but its metabolites, 19-norandrosterone and 19-noreticholanolone, keep on circulating for much, much longer.

http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html
 
Genetic Freak said:
Just to reiterate what CFC has stated above, nandrolone metabolites are still present months after cessation inhibiting recovery:

Recovery from a Deca cycle can take up to a year

For chemical athletes who have taken a cycle of nandrolone decanoate, re-establishing their hormonal balance can take longer than you'd expect.

All traces of nandrolone itself have disappeared out of the body 4-5 weeks after the last injection, but its metabolites, 19-norandrosterone and 19-noreticholanolone, keep on circulating for much, much longer.

http://www.ergo-log.com/recoveryfromadecacourse.html
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To put further emphasis on this, I had a friend who ran his second cycle using deca, and once his cycle was over and he did pct and whatever he had problems getting his cock hard for months, I think it was 6-9 months later he asked me if I ever had the same problem, I fortunately havnt but it does happen. It eventually fixed itself after another pct and a bit more time (don't know if the pct helped) but it can cause problems
 
Wouldn't the issue not really be deca but nandrolone itself? Wouldn't npp have a similar long term recovery as the nandrolone metabolites would be the same.
 
Serotonin101 said:
Wouldn't the issue not really be deca but nandrolone itself? Wouldn't npp have a similar long term recovery as the nandrolone metabolites would be the same.
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As you know when referring to decanoate we are referring the the ester consisting of a 10 carbon chain, as opposed to phenylpropionate with I believe 9 carbons some in the form of a benzyl ring.. The difference in release times is only a few days, once in the bloodstream either ester is cleaved by enzymes esterase and I believe hydrolase, whereupon metabolism takes place, this should make very little difference to the length of time the metabolites stay in the body...

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As said, you can generally forget the ester, the problem is nandrolone itself.

However some extended effect could be expected from any highly lipophilic long-chain ester that embeds in fat stores and only leaks out in drips and drabs over many months (particularly when cutting). This would be of more concern for a person with high bodyfat.
 
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