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Dear God, It Happened

I always found that tapering your pod habit to the lowest level possible and then using tramadol and loperamide as needed worked surprisingly well, it's a long process but it's not too bad. I just wanted to warn you that once you're off the pods you're still not out of the woods, not by a long shot, I'm sure you already know this.

If you're anything like me and many others who got addicted to opiates those cravings will come back, I think you're fortunate to not have any connections in the dope world because that's what fucked me up, easy access to heroin, pills, subs..etc..

I'm glad you're doing well and hopefully this will be your one and only detox. Pod withdrawals are definitely bad and make you feel like shit but imo heroin withdrawals are even worse so please don't go climbing up the opiate ladder! I ended up getting on subs too, they work great for me the only problem is I know that if I didn't have them I'd end up back on pods or pills or heroin, and in all likelihood not pods unless they went down in price and up in quality.

But anyway, if you're going to use tramadol get like a 100 at a time and bottles and bottles of loperamide and you can ride out the wd without getting too sick. Don't take more than 400mgs of tramadol a day, but I always found that having a larger quantity of tramadol in my posession made it easier for me mentally.

Good Luck, sounds like your through the worst of the wd, now it's just dealing with the cravings that come later.
 
golden lovely just wanted to tell u i am so very proud of u for sticking with this. i think its wonderull that u r wanting to be completley off of everthing. for me the whole mind thing was way worse the wd ever were. stay strong u r doing so good!! Merry christmas:)
 
Thanks again Branson

Unsettled, oh believe me, the cravings are there. Especially, since the major WDs are gone and I remember, I didn't feel all that great when I was "normal." Which is what got me on the opiates in the first place. Some days I still feel so "icky" especially when I try to rest or when I wake up.

Curly, thanks, but I feel kind of ashamed that you are so proud of me. Since I went from pods to tramadol to codeine, I can't really say i'm off of all opiates. I still need crutches and I still feel awful in the mornings and my sleep is hard. I'm sorry if I sound like whining. But I don't want to make it seem like I'm just doing great, because I don't want to lie
And honestly and I hope you wont be too disappointed, the cravings for pods are still strong, so its really price that keeps me away. Well prices and fear of those terrible WDs. If Pods go down to the prices and supplies they were WAY back in early 2010...There's a great chance I'll succumb. Sorry.
There's a huge part of me, a part that maybe every addict has that I call the "negotiator" that says hmmm..."well maybe I can have it once a week, maybe twice"
I know we've all seen those threads with people trying to negotiate their addictions to a manageable level.
So thanks for being proud, but don't be too proud. Its still so hard and I haven't even been physically addicted THAT long compared to others.
People that are on opiates for years and years and manage to quit without some kind of crutch are the folks I admire.
But thanks for the support anyway. Please don't be disappointed if i cannot be strong forever.

Oh and Merry Christmas to you! :-)
 
Glad to see somebody kicked it. I remember quitting because i was "broke." Didn't last long but i don't want to discourage you or anything. There really needs to be a more solid reason then they are just too expensive. IMHO. or you will be right back when prices are good. have you ever checked your local florists? suprisingly i have found that several local shops carry decorative poppies and they are not painted or any crap like that. a half pound to a pound of kroger poppy seeds got me higher than a kite for a very long time once. tolerance was <300mg of oxycodone by po. and yes loperamide obtained at that store that sells bulk stuff and starts with a c and ends in an o, has two (200) tablet bottles for four dollars yes four dollars for 400 2mg tablets. loperamide is some potent shit and can be used (not necessarily safely) but it can be used it in 20 mg increments until your w/ds are suppressed or completely gone. don't take more than ten at a time. i found that it is a bit more constipating than tramadol or codeine morphine analogues. smoke some good herb, take nice hot epsom salts baths, drink plenty of Diet Powerade, eat plenty of good foods and veggies( i crave any vegetable or fruit that is red especially strawberries and mangos when i have to w/d), go to the library and get a couple huge books and just read read read when you can't sleep. stay away from the computer some and head outside. if you watch tv watch a comedy or something that will make you laugh.

congrats to you! i don't know you but i am proud of anyone who can look w/d's in the face and suck it up.
 
golden lovely i am in no way disapointed in u what soever!! i myself am on methadone maitenence and have no intentions on stopping it totally works for me. for u to get off the pods like u have is a very hard thing to do. of course u still have cravings for me the mind thing is what always made me go bakc and use even after the wds were over. what u have done is fantastic!! keep me updated in how u r doinng. and i would not b disapointed one little bit if u slip up like i said i had to go on maitenence bc i am not strong enough to do it on my own. best wishes:)
 
ss2brandon said:
Glad to see somebody kicked it. I remember quitting because i was "broke." Didn't last long but i don't want to discourage you or anything. There really needs to be a more solid reason then they are just too expensive. IMHO. or you will be right back when prices are good. have you ever checked your local florists? suprisingly i have found that several local shops carry decorative poppies and they are not painted or any crap like that. a half pound to a pound of kroger poppy seeds got me higher than a kite for a very long time once. tolerance was <300mg of oxycodone by po. and yes loperamide obtained at that store that sells bulk stuff and starts with a c and ends in an o, has two (200) tablet bottles for four dollars yes four dollars for 400 2mg tablets. loperamide is some potent shit and can be used (not necessarily safely) but it can be used it in 20 mg increments until your w/ds are suppressed or completely gone. don't take more than ten at a time. i found that it is a bit more constipating than tramadol or codeine morphine analogues. smoke some good herb, take nice hot epsom salts baths, drink plenty of Diet Powerade, eat plenty of good foods and veggies( i crave any vegetable or fruit that is red especially strawberries and mangos when i have to w/d), go to the library and get a couple huge books and just read read read when you can't sleep. stay away from the computer some and head outside. if you watch tv watch a comedy or something that will make you laugh.

congrats to you! i don't know you but i am proud of anyone who can look w/d's in the face and suck it up.
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Ugh...thanks for the congrats, and I went a long time with out, but you're right, it not enough of a reason to quit. Sadly, I used again. I had a feeling my resolve was weakening. Sorry.

curlygurl1980 said:
golden lovely i am in no way disapointed in u what soever!! i myself am on methadone maitenence and have no intentions on stopping it totally works for me. for u to get off the pods like u have is a very hard thing to do. of course u still have cravings for me the mind thing is what always made me go bakc and use even after the wds were over. what u have done is fantastic!! keep me updated in how u r doinng. and i would not b disapointed one little bit if u slip up like i said i had to go on maitenence bc i am not strong enough to do it on my own. best wishes:)
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Thanks but I still feel like I let you and some other people down...Wish I was stronger. So sorry. :(
 
I too was addicted to opiates for 8 years. I have been clean for over 4 years. You can stay off them, you just need to remeber what you went though during the withdrawls and know that you never ever want to feel like that again.
I went to an outpatient methadone clinic for 21 days. It was not fun. After the first day they asked me if I wanted to stay on maint dose, I was like WTF. NO I want to detox. It is really liberating not having to think about how many pills I have, when my next refil is available etc.

Good luck.
 
TINK said:
I too was addicted to opiates for 8 years. I have been clean for over 4 years. You can stay off them, you just need to remeber what you went though during the withdrawls and know that you never ever want to feel like that again.
I went to an outpatient methadone clinic for 21 days. It was not fun. After the first day they asked me if I wanted to stay on maint dose, I was like WTF. NO I want to detox. It is really liberating not having to think about how many pills I have, when my next refil is available etc.

Good luck.
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Wow, Tink, you are what I was talking about before. A real success story. Like I said, I backslid. I know most of my posts are pretty long, but anything I say now would be excuses. So I'm not going to get into what happened, but deep inside I knew if I could find something affordable, my days of using weren't over. Even with those scary, painful WDs, the part of me that was afraid to be clean overcame the part of me that was terrified of withdrawals. Oh well, once again I thank everyone for being supportive and non judgmental.
 
Hey GoldenLovely. I started a thread on the Darkside about three months ago when I was going to taper off a two bag a day heroin sniffing habit using twelve percocets. I told my whole history, got some great responses and then vanished like a ghost when no sooner were the pills gone, I sniffed another bag and have not stopped since. At least you had no hesitation to tell everyone that your resolve had failed for the moment. It shows quite a bit of good character and honesty..I have in my hand eight Percs and I'm trying again..Used frugally, eight Percs will effectively leave me shakey but clean in five days.,. The fact that you got clean, fucked up, and fessed up is the reason I'm writing again. Wish me luck
 
Chromatictuner said:
Hey GoldenLovely. I started a thread on the Darkside about three months ago when I was going to taper off a two bag a day heroin sniffing habit using twelve percocets. I told my whole history, got some great responses and then vanished like a ghost when no sooner were the pills gone, I sniffed another bag and have not stopped since. At least you had no hesitation to tell everyone that your resolve had failed for the moment. It shows quite a bit of good character and honesty..I have in my hand eight Percs and I'm trying again..Used frugally, eight Percs will effectively leave me shakey but clean in five days.,. The fact that you got clean, fucked up, and fessed up is the reason I'm writing again. Wish me luck
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Thanks Chrom...I wish you all the luck and resolve in the world!
 
curlygurl1980 said:
hello golden:) just wanted to say hello and see how things were going with u?
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Hi Curly,
I'm actually doing pretty good. Had the pods only a couple of times. Seem to be able to stay away, with the help of some Kratom tea. So not totally off of everything, but at least I can tell my self its "herbal" medicine and there for almost ok. LOL

But my spirits are up and I'm feeling pretty good. Thanks for asking. I hope you are doing well too.
 
well its better than most things we bluelighters subject ourselves to on a daily basis. hope you are doing ok still.
 
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