Dear God, It Happened

[Bojangles69]

Golden I'm still confused man theres plenty of poppy dealers out there and they all ship express. Are you broke? Because thats the only real reason I'd see you in wds right now.
If not like I said just order express now.

 

[vortex30]

I take back any of the harshness that may have come across in my post now, I just know Draigan relatively well and felt that he didn't deserve what he received from you, but now I see you, like the rest of us, can lose your cool at times and I respect you for doing a double-take and apologizing! I hope everything works out for you and you can enjoy your weekend in the least discomfort possible.

It's a tough life, this, and the best advice any of us can give is get out while you still can. I'm 20 years old and been struggling with various (many, many) different substances for 4 years or so now...It only gets harder and harder the longer you go.

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Also, I'll admit my ignorance to poppy tea, I figured that it is essentially oral morphine and codeine plus a few other alkaloids. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but I can't sit here and pretend to know that it is any more or less of a deal than other opiate withdrawal, having never had poppy tea myself, nor been seriously dependent on any opiate.

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Why are you recommending more pods to her? Withdrawal is something an opiate addict has to go through, it is unavoidable, sure she can re-up now, she can re-up in a few months, and for the next 5 years. And then what? Just be on opiates her whole life? Why not make a serious attempt at getting clean NOW, before the addiction becomes far worse, before she needs pharmaceutical-grade opiates to stay fixed, costing so much more money than pods, etc.? Plus you're essentially saying "PM me I have a source for pods for you." Which isn't allowed on this board at all, which I'd assume you're aware of...?

 

[GoldenLovely]

Why will it be a while before you get more?
I'm a pod addict too man and I make sure NEVER EVER to run out of that shit.
You are in for a world of hurting if you don't reup. I'm just being honest pods
are not some joke of an opiate to get off of.
.

I agree with you. People who think this is just a mild WD are really mistaken. Just because its a flower, doesn't mean its not harsh. This is the opium poppy...the ancient queen of addiction.

I take back any of the harshness that may have come across in my post now, I just know Draigan relatively well and felt that he didn't deserve what he received from you, but now I see you, like the rest of us, can lose your cool at times and I respect you for doing a double-take and apologizing! I hope everything works out for you and you can enjoy your weekend in the least discomfort possible.

It's a tough life, this, and the best advice any of us can give is get out while you still can. I'm 20 years old and been struggling with various (many, many) different substances for 4 years or so now...It only gets harder and harder the longer you go.

Oh wow, you're so young...I feel for you. I know I seem young, but I'm not really. I should have been old enough to know better, but I got caught up in circumstances I coudln't handle. With me, I didn't do any drugs when I was young. I just turned to food for my pain and I got really really obese. I had weight loss surgery and it made me lose weight, but I couldn't use food anymore to deal with life and after the initial euphoria things got bad(sound familiar?) and I started getting all those symptoms that I mentioned before. I couldn't function, so in weakness and desperation I turned to opiates. Pills when available, but mostly poppies. They were cheap and plentiful. Not so much anymore. They made me feel normal. I could function, but I found they come with a price that's far more than monetary and I'm finding that out now. Thanks for being understanding. I appreciate it and I wish you all the best in your journey.

 

[paranoid android]

Ok heres what i would do in your situation. Hell this is what i did the other day since im outta morphine right now

Go to the nearest drugstore and get some lopermide for sure because your going to need that stuff bad. The brand name is immodium but get the generic since the name brand shit costs alot more. That is unless you want the liquid (tastes kinda minty and abit gross especially if you puke alot during WD like me) which works faster but you get alot less for your money. That will help the diarehea and maybe the stomach cramps abit too.

If your nauseous or throwing up try to get some OTC anti-nausea meds. I don't know where you live so they might have different things in whatever country your from. Dimenhydrinate aka dramamine aka gravol is a pretty good one.

Save those percs for that trip! Trust me you will be kicking yourself in the ass if you eat all of them now and the weekend comes and you get sick as a dog and can't go on your trip. I can't even make it up the street sometimes when im dopesick so i couldnt imagine sitting in a car for a long time and then going to see a concert. So yeah save the percocets and the tramadol. Tramadol helps some people during withdrawal but others not so much. Whatever you do be very fucking careful mixing the tramadol with anything. Like someone else said read up on that shit.

Good luck to you. Ya sound like you need it.

 

[GoldenLovely]

Ok heres what i would do in your situation. Hell this is what i did the other day since im outta morphine right now

Go to the nearest drugstore and get some lopermide for sure because your going to need that stuff bad. The brand name is immodium but get the generic since the name brand shit costs alot more. That is unless you want the liquid (tastes kinda minty and abit gross especially if you puke alot during WD like me) which works faster but you get alot less for your money. That will help the diarehea and maybe the stomach cramps abit too.

If your nauseous or throwing up try to get some OTC anti-nausea meds. I don't know where you live so they might have different things in whatever country your from. Dimenhydrinate aka dramamine aka gravol is a pretty good one.

Save those percs for that trip! Trust me you will be kicking yourself in the ass if you eat all of them now and the weekend comes and you get sick as a dog and can't go on your trip. I can't even make it up the street sometimes when im dopesick so i couldnt imagine sitting in a car for a long time and then going to see a concert. So yeah save the percocets and the tramadol. Tramadol helps some people during withdrawal but others not so much. Whatever you do be very fucking careful mixing the tramadol with anything. Like someone else said read up on that shit.

Good luck to you. Ya sound like you need it.

Thanks...Someone went to the drug store for me earlier and got me immodium. its a small bottle, so Ill need more later. I just hope I can get my butt out of this room to get some more. I wanted to save all the tramadol for the trip, since I have so little, but I took a few already. I know, no will power, but I was just feeling that crappy.
It helps somewhat. Not like having my actual DOC, but beggers can't be choosers at this point and I'm thankful I have anything at all. Its so weird..one minute it feels that the tramadol is working and I don't feel that bad and then other minute...i just wanna die. Oh well, did it to myself...gotta deal.
The percocet I'm definitely saving. Its the only chance I have to save this trip. So its totally off limits, no matter WHAT. No matter how bad I feel today or tommorow, I am not touching it.
Thanks for the help.

T.

 

[curlygurl1980]

hello i just wanted to say i totally get where u r coming from. i have asked myslef over annd over and over why me ? how did this happen? (opiate addict also) i look at people and i am like i can not even fathom what it must feel like to not need something to get out of the bed, need something to clean to do activities etc.. i finally have came to the conclusion that i need maitenence therapy and will prob need it for the rest of my life (methadone) at least its legal i am not lying to my husband and i am not fighting my brain every single second of the day whille it screams at my I NEED OPIATES for me methadone has been a life savor i have also been on suboxone i was on it for 3 months decided stupidly i was cured bc i didt want anything and the subs didnt get me high at all so i thought i can do this on my own. iwas so very wrong i tapered off of it and immediatley after my opiate receptors werent pleased any more i went back to doing bad again. i went with methadone this timje bc whille on subs i couldt sleep and i mean at all. this week makes a month of being on methadone and after 10 long years of opiate abuse and trying every other way to stay clean i should have done this years ago. i know some people think its trading one thing for the other i believe that there are some people that just can not do it alone. so i think about my methadone like this a diabetic takes insuline and to me its the same thing. anyways just wanted to let u know u r not alone in looking at people and wondering why cant i just b normal. best wishes

 

[JJ-180]

I'm a bit of an evangelist for this, but...Kratom will really help. Strong tea made with 10gr or so of good Bali or Indo leaf will ameliorate those w/d's to the point where you can taper on Kratom,from which the withdrawal is insignificant.

 

[hurtin4certain]

Lord knows I know that feeling. especially the first time when you've never really gon through wd's. I think you'll be fine.......its already fwednesday night. Just get through tomorrow and your good.

also...look up the lopramide thread. take tones of it. 10-15 pill and all your wd's will disapear. I swear by it.........and no im not joking.

 

[GoldenLovely]

hello i just wanted to say i totally get where u r coming from. i have asked myslef over annd over and over why me ? how did this happen? (opiate addict also) i look at people and i am like i can not even fathom what it must feel like to not need something to get out of the bed, need something to clean to do activities etc.. i finally have came to the conclusion that i need maitenence therapy and will prob need it for the rest of my life (methadone) at least its legal i am not lying to my husband and i am not fighting my brain every single second of the day whille it screams at my I NEED OPIATES for me methadone has been a life savor i have also been on suboxone i was on it for 3 months decided stupidly i was cured bc i didt want anything and the subs didnt get me high at all so i thought i can do this on my own. iwas so very wrong i tapered off of it and immediatley after my opiate receptors werent pleased any more i went back to doing bad again. i went with methadone this timje bc whille on subs i couldt sleep and i mean at all. this week makes a month of being on methadone and after 10 long years of opiate abuse and trying every other way to stay clean i should have done this years ago. i know some people think its trading one thing for the other i believe that there are some people that just can not do it alone. so i think about my methadone like this a diabetic takes insuline and to me its the same thing. anyways just wanted to let u know u r not alone in looking at people and wondering why cant i just b normal. best wishes

curly...exactly. That's totally where I'm coming from. Its not like oh, i just need to get off this and then I'll be fine. The WDs may stop ,but I wasn't fine before, so I know I wont be fine afterwards if I don't have some thing to make my opiate receptors play nice. BTW, its good to hear another woman's POV.

I'm a bit of an evangelist for this, but...Kratom will really help. Strong tea made with 10gr or so of good Bali or Indo leaf will ameliorate those w/d's to the point where you can taper on Kratom,from which the withdrawal is insignificant.

That's definitely something to think about. I've tried Kratom before, it wasn't bad, but it was expensive and this was when poppies were still plentiful and cheap-ish and did a whole lot more for me. But its definitely something to consider to help with tapering off. Plus its legal...well, for now anyway. Though it seems anything good cannot last. Thanks for the advice. Right now I'm just taking in all the possibilities.

Lord knows I know that feeling. especially the first time when you've never really gon through wd's. I think you'll be fine.......its already fwednesday night. Just get through tomorrow and your good.

also...look up the lopramide thread. take tones of it. 10-15 pill and all your wd's will disapear. I swear by it.........and no im not joking.

Well I went through them before, but not ALL the way through and it was still awful. That's why I'm so freaked out now. I only went through a few days of them, early in my addiction and they were the scariest experience. But I was able to get more pods soon afterwards and back to them I went. When I took some of the tramidol and the immodium that someone bought me earlier, I felt ok enough to go to the drug store and I bought generic loperamide. Swallowed a bunch...not feeling totally ok..shit, when do i ever feel totally ok? LOL but its definitely an improvement...thanks.

 

[bagochina]

<snip> I know going to see a favorite band sick just wouldn't work for me. Than again there are a thousand streets here that you can turn down and buy heroin. Which can be a problem, sometimes.

You said you had Percs? How many?

peace.
seedless

 

[paranoid android]

Lord knows I know that feeling. especially the first time when you've never really gon through wd's. I think you'll be fine.......its already fwednesday night. Just get through tomorrow and your good.

also...look up the lopramide thread. take tones of it. 10-15 pill and all your wd's will disapear. I swear by it.........and no im not joking.

Lopermide will not make your withdrawals disapear unless the only symptom of withdrawals you are getting is the runs. Thats really the only thing it works on (it helps stomach cramps abit) and it works pretty damn good on this but not anything else. It does not cross the blood brain barrier so it does not have any psychological effects at all so you will still be in withdrawals.

taking 10-15 pills at once is insane in my view atleast. Thats 20-30mg's of lopermide . If i took that much i would have to drink a whole bottle of milk of magnesia if i wanted to go to the bathroom anytime soon. 8mg's or 10mg's if im really bad is usually good enough for me. Thats taken all at once and i redose a few times a day.

 

[GoldenLovely]

Lopermide will not make your withdrawals disapear unless the only symptom of withdrawals you are getting is the runs. Thats really the only thing it works on (it helps stomach cramps abit) and it works pretty damn good on this but not anything else. It does not cross the blood brain barrier so it does not have any psychological effects at all so you will still be in withdrawals.

taking 10-15 pills at once is insane in my view atleast. Thats 20-30mg's of lopermide . If i took that much i would have to drink a whole bottle of milk of magnesia if i wanted to go to the bathroom anytime soon. 8mg's or 10mg's if im really bad is usually good enough for me. Thats taken all at once and i redose a few times a day.

Well I already took a bunch of Loperamide. I figure I'm in deep enough now that not being able to poop will be the least of my problems. Heck, with opiates I'm constipated most of the time anyway.
Ive heard both sides of the argument as far as whether or not it helps with WDs, Some say it only helps with stomach issues, others say its like a miracle for WDs. Like I said, I took some immodium before and some tramadol and it sort of helped or seemed to. Right now, my body is going through so much its hard to say from one minute to the next what I'm feeling. I'm just glad I found this board. The support is really really helping me mentally at least.

 

[neely1972]

Go to a doctor and tell him you want to get off of opiates. Suboxone is a very effective new drug that will make sure you feel zero WD's. That is if you want to get off the opiates...it's obviously up to you. I know first hand, WD is VERY painful...so I do pity your situation. Hopefully things all work out for you.

 

[GoldenLovely]

Go to a doctor and tell him you want to get off of opiates. Suboxone is a very effective new drug that will make sure you feel zero WD's. That is if you want to get off the opiates...it's obviously up to you. I know first hand, WD is VERY painful...so I do pity your situation. Hopefully things all work out for you.

I actually talked to a doctor earlier. As I said before, I'm considering all the options and suboxone therapy is one. Thanks.

 

[Menstrualfuck]

I've gone through so many fucking withdrawals. Poppy tea was of the share of the worst but methadone left me like a crippled dried up fetus on my bed for weeks, and the worst of it didn't come until the second week. The first time I had withdrawal from opiates I wasn't even kosher enough to know I was withdrawling, I just thought I had a bad case of the flu. If you can get your hands on a good antihistamine, like phenergan or hydroxizine, it can help with the withdrawal. The first and foremost thing you should worry about is sleep. A kava tincture, some shitty kratom extracts, melatonin or anything you can get at a headshop, look for all routes; I've even found pods at headshops. Another thing, eat three square meals a day even if you have to force yourself. I've found that loperamide hasn't attenuated shit for me, and high amounts of it actually coupled up on the nausea though people say different things, but looking back on it I wish I never experimented with it. And the last thing I should mention is a word of advice from Burroughs. He said that other than a shot of dope music is the only other thing that helps him through withdrawal. For some reason music is highly euphoric and emotional during withdrawal, almost to the extent that I can't even listen to it. I wish you the best and if you feel like you need to talk to somebody PM me.

 

[Lady Codone]

Are you trying to get clean, or just can't afford more? Or what? Pods are cheap and readily available to anyone w/ an internet connection, so I'm a bit confused.

Not quite sure about the situation, but can only advise you to grin and bear it. Having what feels like a combo of salmonella and swine flu is never fun, but I can assure you you're not going to die. Treat withdrawals as you would a bad viral infection: with plenty of bed rest and TLC. Then reward yourself with a withdrawal-free trip and vow to work on the addiction when you get back.

 

[Bojangles69]

I'm a bit of an evangelist for this, but...Kratom will really help. Strong tea made with 10gr or so of good Bali or Indo leaf will ameliorate those w/d's to the point where you can taper on Kratom,from which the withdrawal is insignificant.

I'm sorry but this is just not good advice at all.
Not because its stupid to do kratom, but because thats like trying to repair a broken dam with toothpaste.

I know a ton of people (and I MEAN A TON) including myself who have attempted treating smaller pod habits, with way more than 10gms of quality extract kratom to feel absolutely no real relief whatsoever. Will it take away 1 or 2 hotflashes? Sure.
Will it render you capable of standing up and going on with life like you're not in horrendous wds anymore? No way. <snip>have you ever even withdrawn from pods before? <snip>

Please atleast try and get your point acrosss without attacking anyone personally would you? - PA

 

[GoldenLovely]

I've gone through so many fucking withdrawals. Poppy tea was of the share of the worst but methadone left me like a crippled dried up fetus on my bed for weeks, and the worst of it didn't come until the second week. The first time I had withdrawal from opiates I wasn't even kosher enough to know I was withdrawling, I just thought I had a bad case of the flu. If you can get your hands on a good antihistamine, like phenergan or hydroxizine, it can help with the withdrawal. The first and foremost thing you should worry about is sleep. A kava tincture, some shitty kratom extracts, melatonin or anything you can get at a headshop, look for all routes; I've even found pods at headshops. Another thing, eat three square meals a day even if you have to force yourself. I've found that loperamide hasn't attenuated shit for me, and high amounts of it actually coupled up on the nausea though people say different things, but looking back on it I wish I never experimented with it. And the last thing I should mention is a word of advice from Burroughs. He said that other than a shot of dope music is the only other thing that helps him through withdrawal. For some reason music is highly euphoric and emotional during withdrawal, almost to the extent that I can't even listen to it. I wish you the best and if you feel like you need to talk to somebody PM me.

Thanks. After taking the loperamide and tramadol. I do feel somewhat better, like i said in another post. Not good of course, but not like the walking death that I felt like earlier. So I don't know if it was the loper. or the tramadol, but something did help. Good advice about the sleep. I'm exausted but don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight. You're right about music. Even in the worst of times, good music can help alot of ills.

Are you trying to get clean, or just can't afford more? Or what? Pods are cheap and readily available to anyone w/ an internet connection, so I'm a bit confused.

Not quite sure about the situation, but can only advise you to grin and bear it. Having what feels like a combo of salmonella and swine flu is never fun, but I can assure you you're not going to die. Treat withdrawals as you would a bad viral infection: with plenty of bed rest and TLC. Then reward yourself with a withdrawal-free trip and vow to work on the addiction when you get back.

They used to be cheap, real cheap. But I haven't seen any cheap ones in a while and the prices keep soaring. I know they're still cheap in the UK, but not here in the USA, not at least as far as ive seen lately. Basically I ran out and because of circumstance I can't get more right now. I wasn't trying to get clean, yet...though like many people, I had plans for the future (I know, famous last words)...but I wasn't quite ready at the moment, but sometimes life throws you curves and now I'm just dealing with the consequences.

 

[Bojangles69]

Hey as long as poppies are still available to the public the recividism rate is bound to be high.
I'm not exactly sure where the market is headed however because it has largely transitioned from a mass of dirt cheap sellers years and years ago to just a few greedy bastards who care about nothing more than filling up their savings accounts. Although there does remain ways to get them cheap still, the overall outlook for US does not look good.
I don't think any sort of government crack down is in the near future, but I think society is just becoming more aware of the problem.

You have to remember before the internet poppies didn't exist. Although they were sold in shops in small towns opium has largely been ignored since heroin replaced it early in the century. I honestly think what is happening now is the name is just being used more, more people are getting addicted, and slowly fear is growing on all sides about the legality of the issue. And once side of me hopes it gets better (the junkie side of me) while another side of me hopes they all shutdown for good so I can get back to the neurotic fast paced life of opiate free living.
Pods really are medicine for life, but at the same time they create a life that doesn't exactly fit the definition of living. Things are just different now and I honestly can't tell you if its good or bad, because when things were really "good" in the past, I myself was a mess. Life just seems to get delayed perpetously on pods, and thats why I have chose to get off them now. I'm not one to tell another person what they should do, but I figured I'd just share my views on the poppy world.

 

[Lady Codone]

Yeah, prices have gotten pretty ridiculous since the "drought". I only buy about once every 4 months, while I used to buy about once a month. Not that that's a bad thing though.

I suggest making yourself go out and pick up some loperamide, and getting some ginger (nausea/pain), valerian root (anxiety/insomnia) and OTC painkillers while you're out. They won't stop symptoms completely, but can help get you through the acute phase. Treating individual symptoms is the best you can do unless you have more opiates.

Out of curiosity, how extensive was your habit before you quit?