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Its a common myth that marijuana is a ( physically ) addictive substance. 99.9999% of people who abstain from chronic use will NOT experience ANY physical withdrawls. Yet this sounds too good to be true to many users, yet many cannot comprehend the Psychological changes that users may have to deal with whilst kicking a smoking Habit.

I currently am trying to kick the habit. And ive done it once before, but still ended up slipping back into the mindstate - ( Aslong as i can buzz, everything will be ok) and vice versa. Its this mindstate that i have Extreme difficulty shaking & the ramifications leave me emotionally dead & aggrovated for atleast 1 week after the first inital Abstain.

For me atleast. Being sober is concidered only a period inbetween smoking opportunitys. When confronted with the situation of dealing with abstinence the mindstate is again working against my willpower. What really hurts is when i do compulsivley seekout & use MJ. I loose my high due to repeated introspecive thinking about my addiction ( and yes it is since i really cannot shake it).

During the day i am 110% certain that ive kicked it & there is no way in hell i will be smoking ( that night) but time & time again im proven wrong as i panick due to being without the security of this drug.


I am basically looking for other people who may been in my shes &/or had experince with people in my position. I am looking for self help & would like to see your opinion and any links for information on the subject would be highly appreciated.


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Corsto.
 
Good on you for taking the first step, its always the hardest. Anybody who claims that marijuana is not addictive has obviously never had a serious habit with it.

I'll tell you a little bit about my habit and how I overcame it.

I first started smoking around 13-14, and started smoking everyday at around about 15. At first I got mega-stoned every time I smoked and enjoyed it heaps. As time went on though, I found myself getting less and less stoned, but still felt the need to smoke all the time. It just made me feel so good, the whole ritual of chopping n pulling cones, I loved it. By 18 I was still smoking every day and enjoying it, but it occured to me that I could no longer finance the habit, so i went and consulted my doctor, who gave me a prescription for oxazepam to help with the insomnia. It helped, but I noticed a habit forming with that too, so I ended up worse off than i started and kept smoking. And then I met a character at the place I used to score from who had schizophrenia. He was having a session with us and just talking about really bizarre yet very interesting stuff, like just theories he has about the world and reality and anything really. I could tell before he told me that there was something different about him. Then somebody mentioned a person that I dont know, and the schizophrenic started talking about him. He claimed that he cured his schizophrenia (he obviously didnt) by explaining the nature of it to him. With this unknown persons help, he had come to realise that the voices he hears in his head were just his own voice, speaking in the past and in the future. This intrigued me, and the next few days I was thinking about it constantly. After about 2 days of thinking about it a lot, I got really really stoned, and I found myself having trouble telling the difference between my own thoughts and my own voice speaking in the past and in the future. This alarmed me somewhat, and the next day I promised myself I would never smoke again. And for quite some time I didnt, I have probably smoked about 4 times since then, and not really enjoyed it much. When I did smoke again this one time, I found myself thinking in a similar way to how I did once during an intense and terrifying acid trip. So that was the icing on the cake for me so to speak.

After I stopped eventually the insomnia went away, and I found myself much more alive and energetic. Everybody I know commented on how much better they liked me since I'd stopped smoking. I felt a lot healthier too.

One thing worth noting is that if you smoke again once after quitting, it isnt the be-all end-all, just consider it an accidental relapse and continue trying to quit. It also helps to avoid people you smoke with and places you smoke at for a while, and just keep busy.

Good luck.
 
99.9999% of people who abstain from chronic use will NOT experience ANY physical withdrawls.


where do you get this information? withdrawal symptoms like insomnia (difficulty sleeping), anorexia (loss of appetite), and hyperhidrosis (heavy sweating) are common with heavy cannabis users
 
yeah i get withdrawls too, as do some of my friends. that statistic doesnt seem legit.
 
I smoked ALL day everyday, for 2 years + then got put on probation, the worse part for me was a tie between not sleeping and just real kinda shitty mood.

No physical shit, just what i said and maybe depression but that kinda like mood, but I was always depressed just weed cloaked it up real good and when it wasn't there seemed worse i guess, or maybe i just had more to be depressed about but i was high so didn't notice/care.

But its kinda wierd.. my smoking is on and off now.. I can smoke 5+ times a day for 4 months and just stop for a week..no shitty feelings/side effects, never could do that before. Seems like first few shitty quitting effects just might be getting use to the not smokin, and when you smoke for awhile and then stop afew times its really no big deal anymore, but thats how it is for me anyway.


ohh and on a side note out of all the legal anti depressents I tried.. weed beat them all with less side effects...WAY LESS side effects.
 
Corsto. said:
Its a common myth that marijuana is a ( physically ) addictive substance. 99.9999% of people who abstain from chronic use will NOT experience ANY physical withdrawls.
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lol
 
sorry about my dodgy info , my misconception. anyway, they actually gave you a benzo for pot withdrawls? anyway thanks for the feedback guys.
 
Whenever i don't smoke for even 2 days or so (now only smoking on the weekends, so this could be a problem), i get either really bad diarhea, or just have to shit A LOT. Anyone else get this shit?
 
Corsto. said:
sorry about my dodgy info , my misconception. anyway, they actually gave you a benzo for pot withdrawls? anyway thanks for the feedback guys.
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i think he just meant antidepressants, not benzos...? it doesn't make any sense for a doctor to prescribe a benzo to help you with a marijuana problem...
 
herownwrite said:
i think he just meant antidepressants, not benzos...? it doesn't make any sense for a doctor to prescribe a benzo to help you with a marijuana problem...
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Nah mate, it was definately a benzo, oxazepam also known as cerepax. Lasts for 8 hours. The doctor did mention that replacing pot with anxiety/sleeping meds wasnt the best idea, but it would be alright so long as i scrictly followed his directions to avoid addiction (one every night for a week and then every second night the following week if necessary), which I obviously didnt.

On that note, I have mates that have been given diazepam for pot withdrawls.

My advice is to avoid any drugs whilst battling with addiction. Just wear yourself out by lifting weights or doing pushups or running.
 
I am currently trying to somewhat abstain for a while for school. I've smoked every day for about the past 2 and a half months, but really need to clear up. I have some trouble sleeping sober anymore, but i've found that if you keep your time and mind occupied, you're so exhausted at night you just kinda pass out.
 
yeah that figures bolox - I've seen figures with up2 50% or so of regular daily users having inpaired control of the habit and somewithdrawal 2 - withdrawal for me is total hell lasting up to 2 weeks - shakes sweats, insomi=nia violent outbursts weight loss confusion all sorts of shit - dope should b legal but a lot o tokers should stop lying about the negatives 2
 
i've been off the smoko for 14 days for a 90 day break and all i do is sit on the internet drueling over hash pics... its not good
 
OH man, I am quitting smoking, after a 3 year everyday as much as I could toke fest, its horrible.


I am also weening off klonopin addiction too
 
completeki, i reckon you should quit one at a time, itll be so much easier.
 
i HATE the crowd who say weed isnt addictive. Those people obviouslt have never had long term dependency, sometimes people use pot to relieve depression, or just 'chill out' after a stressful day of work, and i think those 2 could be the most addicting aspects, really the easyest wasy to quit is be naturally happy, energetic, and open minded. For people who smoke pot daily for years its extremely hard to make that transition in a day. Infact its extremely addictive when u have a consisant hookup with DANK herb at a low price and have NO other drug or alcohol hookups, and dont feel like getting into any harder drugs.
 
I'm completely addicted to marijuana. Insomnia, sweats etc, I have it all now. Insomnia is the worst really. My addiction to pot doesn't bother me too much to be honest, because I don't feel like it's holding me back... yet, but I'm sure it will given time.

Daily smoking started as a way to keep me off the hard drugs, then like a lot of people, I forgot that weed is a drug too. And once you lose respect for a drug it is much easier for said substance to get the best of you.
 
It's hard to find the line between psychological and physical addiction when you look at drugs such as cannabis.


.. and it's rather saddening to see you guys talk about a substance gaining control over you. It's not so simple, to put the blame off on the weed.

Hey, maybe sobriety sucks hardcore because of your environment and it's nice to be comfortable in your own mindset through smoking weed. Great, glad you found yourself an outlet. India knows that path real well.

But why do you have a problem with it? Are you going to be spiritually advanced enough to not desire anything anymore? No? Well then weed is hardly the most urgent habit you need to fight right now. It's about the safest substance known to man.
 
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