Day 24 off Suboxone 16mg cold turkey. Losing hope

[DemonSoul88]

I have been taking two 8mg suboxone films everyday for over a year and a half. I quit cold turkey 24 days ago with nothing prescribed to get through it, because I thought it would be easy compared to OC, Dilaudid and the like. I still have diarrhea, chills, insomnia, Aches, headaches. Is this normal? I feel just as shitty today as I did ten days ago? Not as shitty as the first week but I'm getting ground down, getting worn thin. Is there a clear turning point? Anybody think I might have some food poisoning or something? Or is 24 days of physical stuff really normal?

 

[Cranoo]

Don't lose hope man, you're a fighter not a quitter. Everything the Suboxone knocks you down get right back up! Just remember, pain is temporary, glory is forever! Come one man, keep this shit goin. Don't lose hope. Take it like the man you are. Good luck bro, i'm always here!

 

[DooMMooD]

very normal considering bupes HL. You had wayyyyy more bupe in your system than 16mg when you quit. You still have quite a bit left in you too.

Wondering why in gods name you did this?

Do NOT use any other opiates.

 

[Toz]

I have been taking two 8mg suboxone films everyday for over a year and a half. I quit cold turkey 24 days ago with nothing prescribed to get through it, because I thought it would be easy compared to OC, Dilaudid and the like. I still have diarrhea, chills, insomnia, Aches, headaches. Is this normal? I feel just as shitty today as I did ten days ago? Not as shitty as the first week but I'm getting ground down, getting worn thin. Is there a clear turning point? Anybody think I might have some food poisoning or something? Or is 24 days of physical stuff really normal?

Yes this is normal but don't give up now, you have waited almost 4 weeks and the 5:th week it started getting better for me.

 

[Obiez]

You are about to reach the peak of Everest and you are planning on turning back.

 

[i are spectre]

yeah man im on day 15 or 16 i feel like shit havnt sleep that whole time. dont give up dude you know youre slowly getting better. this will be even worse if you go back the other way. break free of these god awful drugs man. think about when you feel good again... its coming...

 

[rhun]

OP, that was not a good idea. Buperenorphine WD symptoms sometimes go on for months.. And that's for people who do a correct taper, not people who just say fuck it and stop taking their medication.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Long-lasting withdrawals are definitely not unusual, and unfortunately there is not a clear turning point, it varies hugely from person to person. I know that not knowing when you will feel better is the hardest part, but sadly we can't say when it will happen for you. Don't give up hope though! It's amazing you've made it this far and going back on it now would make all the suffering you've gone through pointless. There are things you can do to help speed your recovery, like lifestyle and diet changes, supplements, etc.

 

[OEandricearoni]

Yeah man it's normal. I did cold turkey off 4mg and i still felt like shit after 16 days at which point i said fuck it and got some heroin. Don't do it though man, you're already so far in. 24 days is a long time, the worst of it should be over within the next week or two hopefully, i mean after 24 days of agony it would be a shame to go and relapse. I regret doing it myself during my attempts to quit suboxone. Most people will start to feel significantly within 30-60 days.

You can do it though dude! Think of what it's going to be like to be finally free from opiate addiction? I can't even imagine it anymore, it's been too long. I want it more than anything though at this point..

I don't understand why you didn't at least taper down to 2mg. Jumping off of 16mg has to be pretty bad...there's a lot built up in your system which is why its probably still quite bad at 24 days, but it wont stay forever and eventually you will start feeling better. Go to a doctor and see if you can get any comfort meds. Just be honest tell them the situation you're in.

 

[DoctorShop]

I stopped using Suboxone at 0.2mg (had been on that dose for over a month) and I felt peak WD symptoms for 3 days, by day 4 I was slowly improving. I can't imagine how you must feel WDing at 16mg.

Like others have said though. You can do this. When the physical symptoms have disappeared and all you feel is the mental depression, that's when you need to start exercising and TRYING to do things that you used to enjoy. Other wise you will probably relapse.

Good luck.

 

[i are spectre]

hey doctorshop, how long until physical withdrawal stopped? im at 16 days and im still sweaty, achey, etc. it's getting better but more slowly. id say im 85-90% which is awesome!

also, uni starts back up tomorrow and i started writing my schedule down and i was shaking real bad. like parkinsons almost. i hadnt noticed it until i started writing. is this normal for opiate withdrawal after almost 3 weeks? its the first time i even tried to write i had just realized.

 

[DoctorShop]

What dose did you start withdrawing of off Suboxone? For me the depression afterwards was worse. Bear in mind though I had been tapering for three years.

 

[i are spectre]

for some reason i am not depressed. my situation is kind of weird because i tapered down to about 0.5mg a day, but then i had a nasty ear infection. it was so bad that tears were coming to my eyes so i bought a fifth and took 4mg portions of my last bit of suboxone. i had to the pain was unreal. anyway, i did that for like 3 days then just went 4 2 1 off. this was after being on it for 3 years.

im glad i did have the ear infection because during day 3 which was the worst for me too i thought about how painful that ear infection was and i was better off in withdrawal than that damn ear infection. i ended up taking 24mg of loperamide, then another 24mg, then 16mg, then 14mg, 12mg, 10mg, 8mg, off. then i went through stage 2 of withdrawal from the loperamide! day 3 after that 8mg of loperamide again! but not nearly as bad. yes i could have kept tapering but school is here tomorrow and if i did, i probably would feel withdrawal during the first couple weeks and i think i got most out of the way.

im just wondering when your physical shit went away. i guess i have to add a week because of that loperamide, but it helped during the worst a little. i had to go on a car ride 9 hours so it wouldve been horrible without that 24mg of loperamide.

 

[DoctorShop]

I wont lie to you. The lethargy stayed with me for a couple of weeks. However, as I said previously, peak withdrawal lasted 3 days, when I woke up 4am (start of the 4th day) my symptoms had died down considerably. By 1 week I felt no skin crawling or hot cold flushes. I still felt lethargic however I think that was due to my state of mind and the fact that I wasn't exercising. By day 10 I was trying to get down to the gym for half an hour of cardio and felt a little better.

2mg of Loperamide really firms me up. Crazy when I read people doing 24mg each day

 

[Effuzion]

Jumping off 16 mg is going to be awful, but if you made it this far then you're good to go. What you're feeling is withdrawal symptoms, but it will only get better from here.

 

[DemonSoul88]

Thanks for all the info, I'm glad to know its normal, the reason i did it is because ive Cold Turkeyed lots of hard habits and its never been more than 3-4 days for me. but I'm past day 30 now and things have drastically improved, the suboxone withdrawal is bad and long but you never hit a point that feels like your literally dying. With H and Fentanyl you do hit that point but it passes quickly. They all suck in their own way

 

[Obiez]

The shaking doesn't stop for months, just learn to hide it - not draw attention to it.

Pharm grade whatever has the tendency to have really long WDs, but, the good news is that the worst it is going to be, every soon, is shaking, not being able to sleep if you don't exercise, and a bit of foggy mind. Stimulants helped me with this when I absolutely had to use them (twice), but generally things will become increasingly more easy as the days go bye. Soon enough you will be wondering what addiction?

Just keep in mind that all that you are going through is normal, and if you ever need anyone to talk when it gets bad, you can PM me anytime.

I love your attitude and determination! That's how I did it! I tried to taper....I said, this is going to be shit no matter how much I taper, might as well get the full blast sooner, rather then later. Keep your head up and focus on school! Fuck the fact that you have WDs, there are other important things in life to focus on.

 

[DoctorShop]

Glad that you got back to us and let us know that things have improved for you.

I understand what you mean about the withdrawal. It just feels like this drawn out feeling of ... bleh.

 

[Mass08]

Bro don't give up now!! Think of what an incredible amazing accomplishment is going 24 days cold turkey off that bupe dosage. You don't want to start that over again man. Use this as a learning experience. Your detoxing yourself so you can be clean and clear minded for your life as a clean and sober person. Good luck bro, I commend you, what you've done is nothing short of amazing. Keep it going.

Edit - Wow man 30 days, even more impressive. Keep it going!! You should start feeling a bit better day by day now. Progress

 

[deadmau]

Keep at it OP..it's comforting to know I'm not alone but my WDs don't compare to yours

I'm on day 10 of no sub...I jumped at 1mg and while I don't have severe WDs...my restless legs kept me up all night last night in what I considered to be the worst day of WD. Before that I was averaging 3 hours of sleep a night...I feel so drained...laying in bed trying to sleep has literally brought tears to my eyes...I've been combining both NyQuil and Benadryl to try and knock me out but it doesn't work...a high dose of ibuprofin knocked me out for 2 hours today...I picked up some melatonin today and magnesium so I'm gonna throw that into the mix now.

Keep your eye on the prize