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darvocet / demerol / dexamyl / xanax / secobarbital - various exp - new years eve

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Arrived in Manhattan (ks) on NYE with girlfriend, T+30 ingested 4 darvocet, 1 demoral. T+1 went to hotel, ingested 1 green heart Dexamyl, went to dinner. T+2:30 ingested another dexamyl and had sex with girlfriend. Once things got going, sex lasted quite sometime.

T+4 ingested 2 red seconals, 2 mg xanax, and 100 mg demoral, followed by copious amounts of alchohol.

For the majority of the night, I kind of 'bobbed' about the 2 hotel rooms that we had gotten, drinking, and generally socializing. Went to a party, had another demoral.

However, at about T+7, I began to lose chunks of time.

The rest is from ppl telling me what I did. I have no memory of this.

Apparently, I got ready for bed, but then went to the "party room" and drank more.

I began falling, randomly passing out, drinking straight vodka that I had mistaken for water. After a bit more drinking, and falling asleep standing up and assorted stupidness, friends finally convinced me to go to bed.

The next morning about 11 AM, I was awoken to check out of hotel. While I felt a bit drowsy, I was feeling remarkably well otherwise.

However, on the way home, I fell asleep while doing around 70 mph (I was driving). Fortunatly, the highway was a fairly rural one, and mostly empty. I went through a grass median, and came to a stop on the shoulder of the opposite lane.

What have a learned from this?

Don't consume large quantities of narcotics, benzos, and barbs with alcohol. Enjoy each substance by itself, or you may seriously injur or kill yourself or others.

*NOTE: Before calling bullshit on some of the drugs that I took, let it be known that several of them had been procured from my friend's grandmothers decades old RX stash.

Also, for those that don't know, Dexamyl is a discontinued med that contained both dexamphetamine and amobarbital.

MOD- I tried to list substances and doses in the title, but it took up too much space.
 
you don't have to put your doses in the title, just how experienced you are with it. do you know what was in the red seconals?
 
Yes, the red seconals contained Secobarbital. "reds" if you will. I want to say that they were 100 mg each, but I'm not sure.

The dexamyl's were fabulous by themselves. All the euphoria of dexamp, with none of the bad side effects.

I see that the header got changed. Thanks to whomever did so, but there wasn't any MDxA involved...
 
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Also, for those that don't know, Dexamyl is a discontinued med that contained both dexamphetamine and amobarbital.

This drugs sounds like it would be very efficient for ADHD/ADD why was it discontinued?

Also, I was in Manhattan on NYE, and I find it interesting to think another BLers fucked up on the same small island at the same time. (I do realize there where probably a few, but its neat to read it for certain)
 
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Yes, the red seconals contained Secobarbital. "reds" if you will. I want to say that they were 100 mg each, but I'm not sure.

The dexamyl's were fabulous by themselves. All the euphoria of dexamp, with none of the bad side effects.

I see that the header got changed. Thanks to whomever did so, but there wasn't any MDxA involved...

yeah, that was me, i had nfi what a red seconal was. pink domes v 2.0 maybe ;)
 
If you have detailed reports on amobarbital and secobarbital on their own without combinations, I'd be greatful if you share them :). (though I'm aware that depressants do not offer much in terms of "details".. heh.)

I have combined d-amphetamine with phenobarbital (ugh), and the synergy was surprisingly great. So now I never touch pheno without amphetamine. I imagine Dexamyl would be amazing...

But anyways... I must say, lucky bastard!! haha.
 
I was lucky enough to get a small handful of the Seconals, and did exp. them on there own. The effect is strong, fast sedation, quite similar to a euphoric drunkeness, w/o the nasty g.i. effects of alchohol.

Dexamyl was originally RX'd for depression. I recall seeing an old advert for it with a beaming housewife pushing a vacuum. I would imagine that it was banned b/c it was insanely euphoric. Almost like a ready-to-go speedball. One would imagine that rate of addiction and abuse by your avg housewife. B/c of the upper/downer thing, the dexamp was much more enjoyable, as the amobarb nixed the anxiety and all that stuff, while the barb gave you the typical drunk-fun effects, but without the falling asleep standing up. Basically, it was just too damn much fun.

Past encountering decades old RX's (I think these were from 1967 or so) it is VERY unlikely that you will encounter these, as I believe manufacture of all those combo drugs (I think that there was one with methaqualone and methamp) was ceased in the early to mid 70's.

Seconal is to my knowledge still produced, but RX's are very rare, and usually only consist of 5-10 pills or so. They had the effect of ppl forgettign they took it, and redosing, only to die in their sleep.

That's about all I can think of now. Of course, one can, as a previous poster noted, recreate the dexamyl effect, but popping that little green heart was like taking a tiny piece of history...
 
Thanks a lot for the info :)

When I first heard of Dexamyl, I figured it would have been an amazing experience reflecting on what I read about the pharmacology of both drugs (and my experience with d-amp). Now your description (the first subjective one I've come across) confirms that, had I had access to it, there is no question that I'd be desparately addicted to it in this melancholic state I am in...

Btw, I have personally experienced the Seconal (is the "seco" part derived from "lethal second-dosing"? :P j/k)effect that you mention with Valium. But of course, the latter is harder to OD on so I simply passed out. It also sounds to me from reading all subjective reports, yours included, that Seconal is overrated, especially in comparison with other barbiturates like nembutal and your amobarbital for example. Would you agree?

In Canada at least, Secobarbital is no longer available, especially that now more than ever it is being eclipsed not only by benzos, but also all these Z-drugs (which are in turn eclipsing the benzos, it seems...).

As far as I know, the only barbs still available in Canada for humans are Phenobarbital and Butalbital. Pentobarbital is available for veterinary, and indicated for euthanasia... (and conveniently marketted as "Euthanyl", heh).


Though as an aside, since this is a harm reduction site, had I read even just this single line:

"T+4 ingested 2 red seconals, 2 mg xanax, and 100 mg demoral, followed by copious amounts of alchohol."

I would have immediately assumed that this was a suicide attempt. I also have reason to believe that you caused yourself at least some liver damage with combining Demorol, Darvocet and Alcohol. I would suggest you do a blood test just to check...

Though you seem to have learned your lesson (on a sword's edge!). Please take care of yourself :).
 
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Is combining amphetamines and barbiturates safe? I faintly recall that in MKULTRA, some subjects were given a barbiturate IV in one arm, and amphetamine IV in the other. They would then fall into a half-sleep/half-wake state and begin talking incoherently. It was discontinued as a method for a truth serum because most of the subjects died. I could be wrong, but thats what I recall.
 
I would imagine that the barb/amp IV truth serum was extremely high doses of both. The dexamyl is a so called theraputic dose of both.

My liver is fine. I've had a few blood tests since then. My combo was not a suicide attempt, just a stupid kid stunt that went overboard. Fortunatly, I've matured quite a bit since then, and know myself and my limits much better these days.

I'll agree that seconal is indeed overrated. Not worth shelling out a bunch of money for.
 
I do not know if this is true to all barbiturates, but I know that Phenobarbital actually potentiates amphetamine by inhibiting or inducing a cytochrome enzyme (forgot which), but it is similar to the grapefruit - codeine business.
 
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