Damned if I Do, A zombie if I don't

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I love opium.. More specifically Heroin, but lately I can't even get high anymore! I don't even nod out anymore even after shooting up.. I figured it's time to try something else, but it's much worse now because I'm depending on both Meth and Heroin... I need Heroin to make me calm enough to sleep and Meth to wake me up and help me get through the day... The euphoria is addicting.. The withdrawals are horrible. I am losing to much. I have been careless and now my dad is suspicious... He found my bubble and a syringe. I convinced him the bubble was to vape weed and the needle was to draw blood for spiritual reasons... Idk why I am gonna do I can't keep hiding my addiction but coming clean is not an option... I will NOT let my parents and everyone down again... I've come to far now... "6 months clean" hahaha yea right but ahhh... Idk what to do. Not like I'm Binging and staying up all week.. I just ride the high til I get bored and take my Seroquel and pass out and wake up fine. :) but... It's getting bad. I blow 50-70 easily every day buying drugs.. so it's messing me up... I'm always broke yet I always work lol.... I just wanna use the drugs not let them use me.. Tips/advice. I only smoke Meth 3-4 times a week and H everyday... Didn't need Suboxone the first time so.... Maybe meth will cruise me by and help me avoid withdrawal from Heroin...
 
It sounds like you need to get yourself some help man. I lived my life for a very long time in a fashion very similar to your own and it brought me and my family nothing but constant pain and suffering. I still do keep my own drug use hidden from my family, or maybe minimize it would be a better term to use. I am not as bad off as I was or I have just found a way to do what I want and still function. My drug use varies as I am a poly drug user but my main addiction is benzos. I need my xanax and etizolam every day. But I want to get better and am trying to make the necessary changes. I hope you can find it in you to want the same for yourself <3 drugs like heroin and meth in my experience are always going to use you.
 
It's weird though. Like I never hurt or never worry..
I just like to geek sometimes. I always feel slow and unmotivated because of my meds or geeking that say or I wake up happy happy on the highest cloud without the need for drugs.. Being on that cloud is amazing. So positive yet a dangerous me is revealed. Mania is my life's tragedy. I don't think about anyone or care about those around me. I begin to shake and feel an adrenaline rush like feeling through out my body. My mind races and it's like there's a voice telling me to raise Hell who cares what happens anymore. I have knocked on Death's door but quickly got away because it's like I can handle too many chemicals at once as my body literally has not failed me..
I only did these things because I am not right in the head... I black out and do crazy shit sometimes and don't even remember. Anyways it all started in the 7 th grade ah ages ago. I had tried to off myself because I was tired of living blah. I was quite odd. I sense the energy's that are in a room or place. I can feel the sorrow one carried.. I absorbed it like a miserable sponge.

I knew things kids shouldn't know. I had such... Dark thoughts and I could see a world of the hatred. Then came a game of strategy and luck that I remain active in is a game of perception and deception. The strongest has more force, but the clever one avoids being detected and remains off the grid. He is such a crazy liar... You wanna talk about the law get ready to learn some tricks and little secrets that will protect me for the time being. I was already well into the fad of swallowing pain killers to go down. I did this shit until 9th grade when I lost over 35 pounds just from those few years... I had to change the game. So I got Clean it was easier back then...
9th grade started smoking meth, heroin, and marijuana. Fell in love with heroin and weed but pushed water aside as I used to sleep quite often before.. Did this shit until now off and on.. That was 4 years ago... Got caught by my family . Withdrew. Faked being cured. Twisted my parents around my finger to act as I command. They are blind. I can perceive and deceive my mom the easiest she's weak. My dad takes some work but all I gotta do is think for a few minutes to myself and blab about positive bullshit to make him piss off and back off my case.. They did whatever I asked and still do.
Heroin doesn't do shit for me I've done it several ways that didn't help. I shot 2 bags and smoked 2 by myself the other day and smoked 3 bags today.... It doesn't do nothing anymore but make me warm that's it. It was time to step up. I went to the homies and tweeked the bubble. I had smoked meth before by off foil... I had never hit the bubble but of course I did it naturally... I guess I'm just good at the game and using drugs. Congrats mom and dad. I'm so clean but I won't take a drug test. Oh and I'm on a diet don't mind me turning into bones and pale flesh. I looked somewhat epic to myself but others were... Stricken by my appearance. My eyes had dark bags and still do, they droop, and they zone out sometimes ha. I was as thin as ever. Skinny jeans were all that fit me because I am tall I just weigh to much less.. 5ft 11 at 133 pounds ha. I weigh 140 now. Still use often smoke pot everyday.
I work 40-50 hour weeks so I am always busy... In spare time I tweek myself to the blurred vision, euphoric misery, hyperfocus, uppity up, dry mouthed, bug eyed, way I know how. I love my bubble it's got two bubbles like wtff cause it broke but I gotta guy who just blew another bubble with a torch. And another one? It's weird yes but it helps gather residue and gives me extra clouds because the long stem on it is long it crystalizes fast on it and of course I move that bubble quick do a burn out basically till my lungs are full hold it for a sec and chill. Repeat 6-7 times with my homie.. Geek out, chill, go down with heroin, go to work, smoke weed, and lay down to "sleep" but I can't sleep because I'm to high haahaha. Just geek til 2-3am every time when I do. Bam I gotta come down from this crap for work and school.. Easy stuff I just pop my Seroquel 300 for my disorder and 20 minutes later am gone. Wake up at 8:50 and go to school late... It's college though so.... And of course my heroin addiction. I just get it to feel warm and slow my heart down. Other then that it's worthless to this junky. I smoke 3 times a day on good days and at least once for sure. I did my normal doses and was given a 30 of some Crystals from the homie for 10 because he owed me a geeking session. I end up smoking it all by myself pretty much and son of a bitch I am uppity up. My ears are ringing, my jaw hurts from grinding, my eyes are blurred, I got nickel pupils. And I am still awake barely day 2 of geeking during the day and sleeping at 2-3 am each day... It's 11:37 and I feel amazing still. Strong drink for sure. I lent my car to my friend while I smoked weed.
It's weird though. Like I never hurt or never worry..
I just like to geek sometimes. I always feel slow and unmotivated because of my meds or geeking that say or I wake up happy happy on the highest cloud without the need for drugs.. Being on that cloud is amazing. So positive yet a dangerous me is revealed. Mania is my life's tragedy. I don't think about anyone or care about those around me. I begin to shake and feel an adrenaline rush like feeling through out my body. My mind races and it's like there's a voice telling me to raise Hell who cares what happens anymore. I have knocked on Death's door but quickly got away because it's like I can handle too many chemicals at once as my body literally has not failed me..
I only did these things because I am not right in the head... I black out and do crazy shit sometimes and don't even remember. Anyways it all started in the 7 th grade ah ages ago. I had tried to off myself because I was tired of living blah. I was quite odd. I sense the energy's that are in a room or place. I can feel the sorrow one carried.. I absorbed it like a miserable sponge.

I knew things kids shouldn't know. I had such... Dark thoughts and I could see a world of the hatred. Then came a game of strategy and luck that I remain active in is a game of perception and deception. The strongest has more force, but the clever one avoids being detected and remains off the grid. He is such a crazy liar... You wanna talk about the law get ready to learn some tricks and little secrets that will protect me for the time being. I was already well into the fad of swallowing pain killers to go down. I did this shit until 9th grade when I lost over 35 pounds just from those few years... I had to change the game. So I got Clean it was easier back then...
9th grade started smoking meth, heroin, and marijuana. Fell in love with heroin and weed but pushed water aside as I used to sleep quite often before.. Did this shit until now off and on.. That was 4 years ago... Got caught by my family . Withdrew. Faked being cured. Twisted my parents around my finger to act as I command. They are blind. I can perceive and deceive my mom the easiest she's weak. My dad takes some work but all I gotta do is think for a few minutes to myself and blab about positive bullshit to make him piss off and back off my case.. They did whatever I asked and still do.
Heroin doesn't do shit for me I've done it several ways that didn't help. I shot 2 bags and smoked 2 by myself the other day and smoked 3 bags today.... It doesn't do nothing anymore but make me warm that's it. It was time to step up. I went to the homies and tweeked the bubble. I had smoked meth before by off foil... I had never hit the bubble but of course I did it naturally... I guess I'm just good at the game and using drugs. Congrats mom and dad. I'm so clean but I won't take a drug test. Oh and I'm on a diet don't mind me turning into bones and pale flesh. I looked somewhat epic to myself but others were... Stricken by my appearance. My eyes had dark bags and still do, they droop, and they zone out sometimes ha. I was as thin as ever. Skinny jeans were all that fit me because I am tall I just weigh to much less.. 5ft 11 at 133 pounds ha. I weigh 140 now. Still use often smoke pot everyday.
I work 40-50 hour weeks so I am always busy... In spare time I tweek myself to the blurred vision, euphoric misery, hyperfocus, uppity up, dry mouthed, bug eyed, way I know how. I love my bubble it's got two bubbles like wtff cause it broke but I gotta guy who just blew another bubble with a torch. And another one? It's weird yes but it helps gather residue and gives me extra clouds because the long stem on it is long it crystalizes fast on it and of course I move that bubble quick do a burn out basically till my lungs are full hold it for a sec and chill. Repeat 6-7 times with my homie.. Geek out, chill, go down with heroin, go to work, smoke weed, and lay down to "sleep" but I can't sleep because I'm to high haahaha. Just geek til 2-3am every time when I do. Bam I gotta come down from this crap for work and school.. Easy stuff I just pop my Seroquel 300 for my disorder and 20 minutes later am gone. Wake up at 8:50 and go to school late... It's college though so.... And of course my heroin addiction. I just get it to feel warm and slow my heart down. Other then that it's worthless to this junky. I smoke 3 times a day on good days and at least once for sure. I did my normal doses and was given a 30 of some Crystals from the homie for 10 because he owed me a geeking session. I end up smoking it all by myself pretty much and son of a bitch I am uppity up. My ears are ringing, my jaw hurts from grinding, my eyes are blurred, I got nickel pupils. And I am still awake barely day 2 of geeking during the day and sleeping at 2-3 am each day... It's 11:37 and I feel amazing still. Strong drink for sure. I lent my car to my friend while I smoked weed. Freaked out all geeked cause he took forever and made me late. But I was high so I didn't care . With an old contact. I waited 25 min because he was supposed to go get cigs and be back.. I found it parked behind the hotel I was at. I knocked on the closest door to it and was a little annoyed when my homie opened he door.. Prick made me 45 min late to work smh. I need the money. I went to work today gone just moving to fast for anyone. Got shit done felt good. Made my dad's ego jizz when I told him that I am changed, that I can control it, the drugs are gone, I have goals, etc. Haha so he gave me some weed. I have a card but anyhow he holds onto my stash so I have it a bit. I get like a gram on Saturday every week.. I only smoke on weekends I guess. Fuck it free bud though. He only gave me a bowl tonight was Pissed. I just did it how I find better with a meth bubble. Again my bubble has two bubbles ones smaller but is designed to hold bud to vape. Not hard to do pref a torch. Anyways I load small pieces at a time to conserve.. I wasn't that hard for weed I had the high I needed.. I smoked the residue with my last piece... Oh well it helped.. Anyways I load it, and then start tweaking like I know how. Love my long bubble. Now I wait til that time and rest. For now I geek. Night and don't scare me I'm paranoid... Haha this is random but a soda attacked me today when I was driving.. I turned to soon and it flew all over me.. I didn't give a Damn tho was and am high ha. I thought he puked tho was about to make him gtfo my car because I don't play that shit. If you chew you don't get a ride from me nasty spitting... I am gonna clean my room
 
He found my bubble and a syringe. I convinced him the bubble was to vape weed and the needle was to draw blood for spiritual reasons...

Hahahaha. Parents these days...

I would suggest NOT smoking meth while in heroin withdrawal. Everyone's got a different body chemistry but that sounds like a panic attack and inevitable opiate relapse when the speed starts to wear off to me. I'd detox the speed for a few days first whilst stocking up on benzos, lyrica, and various other comfort meds then kick the dope with all that. Maybe use a little suboxone to taper off if you can't get any time off work. Then comes the hard part where you gotta either stay sober or learn to use drugs in a balanced manner as to not end up in the same situation again. Good luck man, it's a shitty situation to be in but always doable with a little bit of motivation and rational thinking.
 
Yes, I have been there. Some use meth off opiates for the dopamine but I really wouldn't suggest it, it's just going to make it worse in my experience. I got a hold of the best downers to keep me down off Heroin, when detoxing, not uppers… just so I could sleep 2-3 hours a night the first week… amphetamines would have just added to my hallucinations and insomnia.

Good luck indeed!
Get some benzos, lyrica and Clonidine. If you're going to use meth, wait til you are stable, but shit if you can get stable off H, maybe quit it all and live life sooner than later. :)
 
Basically there is nothing else to add. Until you absolutely cannot manage, dismiss the meth and decrease your Heroin intake.
You have to start somewhere right? This is not a life, and your wise body will soon tell you.
Seek for medical help and just do what you have to do!
Good luck and patience..
Please be aware that neither heroin or meth can help you atm. It simply does not function like that.
Been there, done this. I believe I know what you've been through. Do it now
 
I wish I can make myself stop but to late.. I find that a good binge gets me past the withdrawals without dealing with the negative side effects... Mania doesn't help anything always pushes me to use with its persuasive ways... I think I'm so good at lying that I can even lie to myself and make myself think it's all okay when it's not. Let's see how luck helps me here. Didn't need Suboxone at all to quit. Won't need them. Everything always works out for me eventually..
 
This is you trying to keep ongoing not that you can't make it.
Make your choices and go fight for your life. Because if you don't, nobody can.
 
I will fight this on my own as I have fought all my battles. Being a different person every day is crazy as hell and can cause so much tension. I am always in trouble because I did something bad or said such horrible things one day and don't even remember any of it... They say you looked possessed or something I hear all the time.. Or that oh you spoke like a poet and made even your dad cry and I'm just like wtf when? . I must learn to tame these different personalities.. There's more anger, depression, guilt, distortion, self deception, and lies than there is peace and happiness. It doesn't help either that my body is a ticking calendar... I have seasonal ups and downs that are crazy. I have almost gotten killed because of both but mostly the ups. I literally zone out, seek to harm myself or others, seek a means of intoxicated euphoria, disregard all the ethics and laws, endanger myself and those with me, and of course mania makes me do some sick driving haha that would make a robber proud if I was the getaway ha. But above all xD it makes me say shit I don't mean and then forget it all when I go from cloud 9 the best days ever to the ocean floor buried under issues, addiction, pain, guilt. And lies. The joy or the fear of getting caught playing with fire is euphoric? Yet sketchy. I enjoy knowing that I am about to go down kind of makes me go all out and have the best trips. Working on quitting meth somewhat but not really trying. Mostly cut down on h by a point a week... Oh and I found my bud!!!! I have secretly been smoking half and selling half shhhh. You know selling your self bud ;) ;)
 
That's just it. I cherish no life. Whatever happens happens. I finally agreed with myself and came to terms that the only way out will destroy everything I've made out of things and the nasty mess last summer. I won't be able to face rehab and can't face being locked up. Won't go to God as I have my own beliefs. I can't face my mother crying and begging me to stop IVing that stuff.. I can't handle being sober. Sober is Down and that means depressed feelings suicidal feelings and oh yea I'm pretty sure someone will be harmed by me...
 
Magic cure for methsomnia Seroquel or any other antipsychotic pill that is made to just shut you up at night and so you don't have time to feel anything but sedated amazing after being up 48+ hours.
 
Hahaha. True shit. A meth bubble is now used to smoke weed ;) Its a new fad as far as anyone knows. Of all things it is for its to vape thc Loool. And I am one of those weird people who draws their blood to experience meditation xD Those things aren't for those HORRIBLE drugs ;) =P
 
^^ There is no magic cure for any of this.

Truth is these drugs are messing you up and your taking more drugs to try and combat that, this approach is only going one way.....more drugs more misery.

Dropping the meth, as mentioned already would seem to be the best place to start, given the withdrawal shouldn't be a huge issue compared to Heroin.

Start thinking about your longer term goals, do you really believe that you can carry on with this regime ? if you do then you are fooling yourself. It's not sustainable and your already talking about anti psychotic medication as a viable solution to dealing with the inevitable consequences of abusing your mind and body this way.

I get where your coming from, the drugs seem to make life better, more bearable the meth helps you have the energy to work because your tired and still sedated from Heroin, how many of these problems are being caused by the drugs your taking ?? I would venture to guess many of them.

Give some thought to stepping off the train, it sounds like the best of this journey has ,long since passed.

ATB<3
 
The side effects are not that bad right? I haven't gotten blisters by mouth anymore for a while, still got all my teeth. No chest pain... Other than a diminishing rush of euphoria that is weak enough to give me a head rush. I enjoy feeling weird after almost dead.
 
^^ There is no magic cure for any of this.

Truth is these drugs are messing you up and your taking more drugs to try and combat that, this approach is only going one way.....more drugs more misery.

Dropping the meth, as mentioned already would seem to be the best place to start, given the withdrawal shouldn't be a huge issue compared to Heroin.

Start thinking about your longer term goals, do you really believe that you can carry on with this regime ? if you do then you are fooling yourself. It's not sustainable and your already talking about anti psychotic medication as a viable solution to dealing with the inevitable consequences of abusing your mind and body this way.

I get where your coming from, the drugs seem to make life better, more bearable the meth helps you have the energy to work because your tired and still sedated from Heroin, how many of these problems are being caused by the drugs your taking ?? I would venture to guess many of them.

Give some thought to stepping off the train, it sounds like the best of this journey has ,long since passed.

ATB




Exactly!
 
Shoot, I'd have rather copped to relapsing than saying that drawing blood meditates me... I have heard stories about hardcore needle addicts shooting water because they enjoy doing it that much. But unless your dad has a brain injury he knows your using again.

Better to just get your shit together!
 
Probably does. But can't prove nothing. Ha. Idgaf though let him find the dirty truth himself. And hey a druggy will say whatever to keep using.
 
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to prove anything. He's your dad, not law enforcement or the judicial system. The problem with meth and heroin is, even if they are not destroying you physically, they will give you the false impression that everything is alright when it's not. They can be great tools and get you through some times, man, but as long as you're held up in a cloud of doped out bliss, you're not really gonna advance your life towards a more sustainable state of happiness. They're especially destructive in the way they inhibit personal growth that could be right around the corner and take you higher than any intoxicant.
 
Let's just say they bring out the worst in someone. I agree... After tonight I am just gonna crash and chill on the meth til Friday. I have only smoked since Sunday... 4ish days. I broke my bubble tryna smoke the resin as it was hot af.. The worst I had a major hard for some more meth. Was desperate.. I picked at all my clothes for small pieces, picked at the floor.. I kept looking for it everywhere and zoned out basically and did that for 20 minutes and then do it again. And again... I'm 18 and support myself so he can't bitch. I pay my shit. . I did H Sunday 2 points, and yesterday 3 points. My dad's a dumb ass I like to mess with him and drive him and my mom to their ropes end. By the time they realize the truth I am already 20 steps ahead. I have several Stories to tell my dad. I act innocent and "As the victim". My storeys and lies mean more to my dad than the truths spilled from 100 tongues (Different people from different places in my life who seen a glimpse of the truth.) I just have issues. I have always been cold and distant towards my family. Only time I "loved" anyone was when they were blindly feeding my dark side. I don't care how much my words sting my parents and make them blame themselves. Ah Hell where's the bar anymore?? Everything can be altered to my advantage. I only tell the "truth" I'm just sociopathic? Insane? Death obsessed... And delirious from the malnutrition and the chemicals I force in...
 
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