Bupe Damage from snortin sub every day?

[AnrBjotk]

Can there be any nose damage from snorting 2mg sub a day?
I haven't experiences any, except a sort of... dryness or build up of dry... well, "snot" against the nasal walls. This, of course, seems natural, as it surely irritates the nasal walls over time.
But, can any damage be done, as in cocaine, with snorting over longer time? Or is the dose so small, and the fact that it is snorted into the nose, and not snorted all the way in, like cocaine, make it harmless?

Love to hear experiences...

Namaste.

 

[livetheopiatedream]

i have not experienced any but i snort less than 4mg for sure n often less than .5mg suboxone. the limey lemoney ones.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Snorting anything with regularity will irritate the nasal passages and sinuses, probably deviate the septum eventually but much worse are the particulates you are inhaling that will deposit in your lungs. Most people who smoke a pack a day don't experience serious adverse effects for many years but were they not doing damage before the effects became noticeable to them?

You can mitigate the harm substantially by filtering and making saline nasal solutions if you insist on this route.

 

[Swain]

I think the biggest risk is the accumulation of insoluble particles in your lungs.

My understanding is that cocaine is especially hard on your septum, I didn't think oxy/sub abusers were at risk for a deviated septum but I am probably wrong.

Just a side note.. if you were sniffing 2mg of the active ingredient bupe it would be practically no trauma to your nose.. but you are sniffing 100mg of powder for every 2mg of bupe you sniff (I am calculating based on Roxanne 8mg generic bupe weighing 400mg per pill).

That is not a small amount of powder.. especially if you are doing it daily or twice daily.

I would do what cane2theleft is saying.. filter, make a saline nasal solution. The more active ingredient you can filter out prior to sniffing the better. I mean think about it.. where does anything insoluble that you sniff go? Into your lungs, some drips down your throat, who knows where else it goes.

 

[AnrBjotk]

Well, to be honest, I'm not sure about the lung business... Snorting 1mg at a time, very little would reach the lungs. Besides, unlike cocaine, bupes and H is not snorted into the throat, but just into the nose, allowing it to rest and be absorbed in the nasal passage. Some of course trickles down the throat, but that could easily go down in the stomach... Right?

But, all that aside: It seems that generic bupe is harder on the nose than Subutex©. I want to go back to Subutex brand, but apparently the officials here wants patients to use the generic one (even tho I'm paying for it myself, as I'm not actually on a program). Brand Sub is much milder on the nose, much easier to crush and so on.

So, I think going back to Brand Sub will help.

But even so: Is there anything that can be done? Apart from plugging it in the rear, which I haven't tried, but will (Tho I fear it will be harder to control the amount and spillage without anyone helping me out (Any volunteers?))
I'm getting a huge build up of gunk in my nose, which is manageable, but also picking my nose every two minutes creates sores and small amounts of bleeding.
Would putting moisteurizer in the nose help any? Or aloe?

Namaste y'all

 

[Tommyboy]

^ Cocaine is not supposed to be snorted into your throat, so if that's how you do it you are doing it wrong. Cane2theLeft mentioned what to do to help with your nose.

 

[AnrBjotk]

Would using nasal spray w/ salt once a day clear out my nose and heal any damage?
Or using a neti pot? w/ salt water...

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Even with a netipot you arestill doing damage if you snort pills every day.

I am going to post a thread/guide for snorting pills soon just have not had a chance to finish it yet.

 

[Bojangles2.0]

Same thing happened to me the way I avoided this problem in the long run was quite simple.

What damages your nose is solid pieces of debree and their abrasive effect on your tissues. Therefore, if you dissolve the sub in a bit of water first, then snort the water (it will be very bitter) you will NOT have problems with your nose.

As soon as I starting doing this nose bleeds stopped, runny noses, congestion etc.

Good luck!

-Bo

 

[Fire&Water]

Name brand Subutex is no longer (because of greed) There is a generic Buprenorphine available from Hi-Tech (8mg) that is smaller than an 81mg. aspirin, contains a low amount of filler/binder, would be easy to perform a CWE & add to saline spray
If that is your MOA...The q-tip cotton & flavored vodka is the best way to go...